Confessions of a non-hijabi

[Redbull]

I think you missed the previous ayat. Quran 49:10 which says - All believers are but brethren. [11] Hence, [when* ever they are at odds,] make peace between your two brethren, and remain conscious of God, so that you might be graced with His mercy!

So you mean to say seculars are believers who believes Man made laws are better than Allahs law?? I see the hypocrisy now

Islam is secular by nature, it preaches harmony between all religions. So what is wrong with secularism?

The ayat you bring up doesn't negate the fact that you can't make abusive nicknames against people which is what Luffy500 did.

 

[Luffy 500]

Actually this is what I want to convey. When people say that Ayah from Quran are the words of God then they have to understand that should always impact all the generations. if Origin of Islam is 1400 years ago then that was due to certain purpose which had significantly impact of localized culture.

Take any religion in the world they are always impacted by geographical, Geo-political and culture of origin place. Now what is written in Ayah does not comply to Prophets and a certain period then what is written 1400 yrs ago should comply today. Don't you think a religion also need to be evolved widely?

ISLAM is a religion that was from time immemorial and was the religion of every single prophet who were sent to this world since its creation starting from Adam, Issac, Jacob, Moses, Jesus and Mohammad (peace be upon them all). Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the last and final messenger and the complete form of Islam was revealed to him 1400 years ago as Allah(swt) considered the time to be ripe for humanity to grasp the complete code of Islam. Prophets before him also bought the same message i.e Islam but that was for a specific group of people and specific region but prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was sent to the whole of humanity not just the arabs. Every ethnicity and regions have been sent a messenger by Allah(swt) to give the message of Islam but their message were corrupted after they died and their followers started to do idol worship and become athiest by deviating and concocting the message of the prophets. But ISLAM will be there till the end of time as Allah(swt) himself promised to guard it from all form of deviation. Till the end of time people have access to the Quran , the word of Allah(swt) and prophet
Muhammad (pbuh) sunnah to take guidance from. This is a mercy of Allah (swt) towards mankind. SO in islam there is no concept of evolution. How will you change the word of Allah(swt)? Allah(swt) gives challenge to those who disbelieve in surah Al baqarah verse 23 :

And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah , if you should be truthful.(Al baqarah verse 23)

many have tried and failed and disbelievers will fail in the future as well. ISLAM as revealed 1400 years ago is here to stay till the end of time. A muslim can't even think of absurd notions like "reform".

 

[Riteon]

Ottoman empire was somewhat close but became corrupt latter on. Muslims actually started losing their superiority in the last 500 years. Very cunning of you. Any way the fact that muslim will suffer and face hardships was prophesied 1400 years ago by our beloved prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and this is happening because we have gone astray from the teachings of Quran and sunnah.

The best example will be the Rashidun Caliphate who set the bench mark for an model islamic state. The Abbasid Caliphate (3rd caliphate) is also a good example.

Rashidun caliphate :

period of First fitna ...muslims killing muslims ,assassination of caliphs. Conquest of nations under religous banner ..........slavery present...minorities were allowed to practise thier own religion as Caliphate believe in '''No compulsion in religion ''''



This Empire was stable ,properous and more religously tolerant than any islamic nation now [except BD] but it has too many downsides which are not compatible in present world.......slavery , religious conquest at the tip of sword....civil wars for power



Abbasids....Were a true golden empire....had its cracks but otherwise great....Science was given a free rein...Philosophy an hence debates on philosophy was encouraged.......and unification was done thru arabization by information network.....Could be a benchmark...but they too had their downside...killing of prophets descendants,betrayal of the Shias and again wars for empire control !!!failure of Islam to prevent fracturing in many sultanates


But they fail to prove how Nation under sharia is way better than nations run by [ your words>] western imposed suckular bigots !!!

 

[Pride]

ISLAM is a religion that was from time immemorial and was the religion of every single prophet who were sent to this world since its creation starting from Adam, Issac, Jacob, Moses, Jesus and Mohammad (peace be upon them all). Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the last and final messenger and the complete form of Islam was revealed to him 1400 years ago as Allah(swt) considered the time to be ripe for humanity to grasp the complete code of Islam. Prophets before him also bought the same message i.e Islam but that was for a specific group of people and specific region but prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was sent to the whole of humanity not just the arabs. Every ethnicity and regions have been sent a messenger by Allah(swt) to give the message of Islam but their message were corrupted after they died and their followers started to do idol worship and become athiest by deviating and concocting the message of the prophets. But ISLAM will be there till the end of time as Allah(swt) himself promised to guard it from all form of deviation. Till the end of time people have access to the Quran , the word of Allah(swt) and prophet
Muhammad (pbuh) sunnah to take guidance from. This is a mercy of Allah (swt) towards mankind. SO in islam there is no concept of evolution. How will you change the word of Allah(swt)? Allah(swt) gives challenge to those who disbelieve in surah Al baqarah verse 23 :

And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah , if you should be truthful.

many have tried and failed and disbelievers will fail in the future as well. ISLAM as revealed 1400 years ago is here to stay till the end of time. A muslim can't even think of absurd notions like "reform".

Well then you have to answer my simple question, If it was for humanity and was always there then how come Hijaab/Niqaab does not comply to Prophet Adam/Eve. Why Allah did not send them with dresses which should be covered them from head to tow? Rest all are emotional and believing part which i refrain to comment.

 

[Riteon]

many have tried and failed and disbelievers will fail in the future as well. ISLAM as revealed 1400 years ago is here to stay till the end of time. A muslim can't even think of absurd notions like "reform".

Slavery ?? child marriage ?? jizya ?? interest on loan and other things ??

 

[Luffy 500]

Islam is secular by nature, it preaches harmony between all religions. So what is wrong with secularism?

The ayat you bring up doesn't negate the fact that you can't make abusive nicknames against people which is what Luffy500 did.

SO what should I call people like Honsi mubarak and ben ali? Suckular munafiqs may be your role model but don't expect any sugar coated words for them from a muslim.

 

[Pride]

Islam is secular by nature, it preaches harmony between all religions. So what is wrong with secularism?

The ayat you bring up doesn't negate the fact that you can't make abusive nicknames against people which is what Luffy500 did.

With all due respect, I would love to hear the explanation of the "Secularism in Islam". If you could provide any Ayah for the same then it will be good.

The concept of Kuffr and Kaffir does not talk about humanity in total and provide separate treatment for those. Similarly "Jihad" talks about intolerance of anything against Islam. I may have peanut size understanding of Islam but would love to listen the explanation which makes common misconception of Islam.