confession on an ex pseudo secular

[kalanirnay]

In our area by 9 or 10 o'clock the loudspeakers go off though they come back again by 6 next morning. This year they played mostly old Kannada songs and devotional songs, so I was quite happy. No chikni chameli or zandu balm hui songs for Ganesha. Only on Diwali can one hear a few crackers go off after 10 p.m. Sometimes I think this area is too dull and has no festival spirit at all.

That too is not good when you have children studying or sick patients at home.

Religion cannot be used as an excuse for Noise pollution. Nothing can be used as an excuses for any kind of pollution. I would rather appreciate it if religious groups went around cleaning up the muck after ganesh visarjan.

 

[scorpionx]

In our area by 9 or 10 o'clock the loudspeakers go off though they come back again by 6 next morning. This year they played mostly old Kannada songs and devotional songs, so I was quite happy. No chikni chameli or zandu balm hui songs for Ganesha. Only on Diwali can one hear a few crackers go off after 10 p.m. Sometimes I think this area is too dull and has no festival spirit at all.

Unfortunately organizers in my area are too much fond of zandu balm or Chikni chameli stuff; That too after 23:00 hrs becomes intolerable.

On topic, Few days back I was reading an article on rising conflict between teachers and students. It mentioned about a boarding school, far away from locality where they recite from Kath, Ma Bidwisab hoi. (sorry for the pronunciation) in their everyday prayer. In my opinion, unlike the article suggests, it is the schools like these silently works to preserve the spirit of the ancient past quite well, not any public ceremonies and the associated hazards.

 

[zip]

Rubbing effect of abhrahmic religions on hindu mind ...our constitution has some major defects especially dealing with religious diversity .. On one hand it says all people irrespective of place cast sex are equal before law ..and it allows different laws for different religion .. In all govt funds you need caste certificate to get benifits !!
22.75% reserved for scheduled caste and tribe
7.25 reserved for other backward castes etc ..more than 50% reserved !!!
If you want to apply for a govt job they will ask your caste gender etc ..everything is reserved apart from say 25%
If you want higher studies in govt college you have to show your caste !!! Heck ours is a democracy where we cant even choose our representatives because of reservation !!!!
I dont have any problem if govt wants to spend alk its money on poor people but they have devidedd people in to caste sub caste etc...
Our system needs a clean up ...only variable allowed should be income level and physical state (women handicapped etc)
Religion caste should be limited to individual ....

 

[kalanirnay]

Unfortunately organizers in my area are too much fond of zandu balm or Chikni chameli stuff; That too after 23:00 hrs becomes intolerable.

On topic, Few days back I was reading an article on rising conflict between teachers and students. It mentioned about a boarding school, far away from locality where they recite from Kath, Ma Bidwisab hoi. (sorry for the pronunciation) in their everyday prayer. In my opinion, unlike the article suggests, it is the schools like these silently works to preserve the spirit of the ancient past quite well, not any public ceremonies and the associated hazards.

Public ceremonies are important for community awareness, bonding, for celebrating festivities. Earlier we had massive Yagnas, now we have pandals and celebrations.

But certainly awareness can be raised to ensure there are no hazards during celebrations. Its a must and social responsibility and responsible behaviour must be part of such celebrations. Some of it can be done thought education, some through law.

 

[Indrani]

That too is not good when you have children studying or sick patients at home.

Religion cannot be used as an excuse for Noise pollution. Nothing can be used as an excuses for any kind of pollution. I would rather appreciate it if religious groups went around cleaning up the muck after ganesh visarjan.

It was not much of a bother this year. May be to those who lived near the loudspeakers. Seriously though, when you get away from all that commotion you miss it. The pandals are not in the same profusion as they are in Mumbai nor the variety of Ganeshas. There is no janmasthami crowds. No Navratri celebration on streets. No Holi. Most of the festivals here look and sound the same. Only puja and more puja.

As long as we are part of a consumerist culture, there is going to some or other pollution.

 

[kalanirnay]

It was not much of a bother this year. May be to those who lived near the loudspeakers. Seriously though, when you get away from all that commotion you miss it. The pandals are not in the same profusion as they are in Mumbai nor the variety of Ganeshas. There is no janmasthami crowds. No Navratri celebration on streets. No Holi. Most of the festivals here look and sound the same. Only puja and more puja.

As long as we are part of a consumerist culture, there is going to some or other pollution.

Yes the pandals in mumbai has come down, but not the one in Hyderabad. Those MoFu used to play the song so loud that my child was unable to sleep. (when she was a baby). Ever since I have hated the concept of having loudspeakers in religious functions.

There was a huge janmasthami crowed right outside my house in Powai. (outside Galleria) Pretty high one too. I watched it for some time before I lost interests

Sadly Navratri celebrations seems to be dying in mumbai but seems to be picking up in other parts of India. Same with Holi. In fact Holi in north India is/was awesome.

 

[Indrani]

Unfortunately organizers in my area are too much fond of zandu balm or Chikni chameli stuff; That too after 23:00 hrs becomes intolerable.

On topic, Few days back I was reading an article on rising conflict between teachers and students. It mentioned about a boarding school, far away from locality where they recite from Kath, Ma Bidwisab hoi. (sorry for the pronunciation) in their everyday prayer. In my opinion, unlike the article suggests, it is the schools like these silently works to preserve the spirit of the ancient past quite well, not any public ceremonies and the associated hazards.

Sorry for your plight. I think there are rules against loudspeakers and crackers after 10 p.m.

It is both actually. You have to be in Maharashtra to know the spirit of Ganesh Chaturti. No one can be part of it and not be genuinely devotional. It is not a matter of just community spirit or being in with the crowd, but real adoration for Ganesha. Also the efforts the boys put in making up the event goes a long way in honing their organizational and crowd management skills. Not to say keeps them busy in event after event productively rather than let their energy get used up all negatively.

 

[kalanirnay]

Sorry for your plight. I think there are rules against loudspeakers and crackers after 10 p.m.

It is both actually. You have to be in Maharashtra to know the spirit of Ganesh Chaturti. No one can be part of it and not be genuinely devotional. It is not a matter of just community spirit or being in with the crowd, but real adoration for Ganesha. Also the efforts the boys put in making up the event goes a long way in honing their organizational and crowd management skills. Not to say keeps them busy in event after event productively rather than let their energy get used up all negatively.

I am in maharashtra, mumbai even as we speak

 

[Indrani]

I am in maharashtra, mumbai even as we speak

Lucky you. I thought you live there throughout the year. Ganesh Chaturti in Mumbai is awesome. Holi in Mumbai used to be fun when I was there.

 

[kalanirnay]

Lucky you. I thought you live there throughout the year. Ganesh Chaturti in Mumbai is awesome. Holi in Mumbai used to be fun when I was there.

No, I am just here for work.

 

[Indrani]

No, I am just here for work.

Ohh, you grew up in Mumbai though, right?

 

[kalanirnay]

Ohh, you grew up in Mumbai though, right?

Yes, for most parts. but no more personal stuff in open forum

 

[wolfschanzze]

Well gist of the expressed emotion is true.

Liberals would run away in another direction as soon as call of Jihad reach their ears. Their liberal secularism survive because of the meat shield provided by " so called communal " people.

Like people living on handout are welfare leeches who take from society without giving back anything, Pseudo/Phoney secularist are security leeches who take security against Jihad provided by " so called communal " while giving abuses in return.

I said it before and I say it again these pseudo seculars are the first one to run in a riot or when they hear jihad and take shelter in a communal sanghis home The same communal Hindus they criticized all their life as extremists Hindus bla bla bla etc..
Why they do that? because they are piss scared to defend themselves or their family.I saw this many times in life and what our family saw in past.

 

[wolfschanzze]

I said it before and I say it again these pseudo seculars are the first ones to run in a riot or when they hear jihad and take shelter in a communal sanghis home The same communal Hindus they criticized all their life as extremists Hindus bla bla bla etc.. they are also the first ones to be culled in a communal riot as the jihadis only target soft pseudo secular Hindus who are unprepared for them.They don't target communal sanghis because they know they will face a severe thrashing.The strong always pick on the weak willed.
Why they do that? Take shelter in communal home?because they are piss scared to defend themselves or their family.I saw this many times in life and what our family saw in past.

 

[he-man]

Aa gaya hai pseudo secular.......................