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Concrete evidence needed from India
BAQIR SAJJAD SYED

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ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif discussing security situation in the region with his aides on Friday.—PPI
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan needs concrete evidence from India for acting against the elements it suspects of being involved in the terrorist strike at Pathankot airbase instead of ‘leads’ suggesting the attack was planned and directed from here.

“We are expecting evidence beyond leads and information to proceed as per our law,” a senior official told Dawn in a background discussion after Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif chaired a meeting of his security aides on the Pathankot incident and Pakistan’s response.

Know more: Pakistan reiterates support to India on Pathankot incident

The official’s comments provided an insight into Pakistan’s planned response to India, which had shared what was described as ‘leads’ and ‘actionable intelligence’, with Pakistani authorities. Officials had previously said that the shared information included intercepts of telephone calls made by militants to their alleged handlers and the locations of the numbers which they (militants) had called in Pakistan.

Soon after receiving the ‘leads’ Pakistan had acknowledged that they had been shared and were being investigated. PM Sharif, who had then telephoned his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi, assured him of “prompt and decisive action” against those found guilty.

Prime minister discusses Pathankot attack ‘leads’ with aides
India alleges that militant organisation Jaish-i-Muhammad was behind the attack. Mr Modi in his telephonic conversation with Mr Sharif stressed the need for Pakistan to take firm and immediate action against “the organisations and individuals” India suspected to be linked to the attack.

The meeting at PM House, according to a statement issued by the Prime Minister’s Office, reviewed the “progress on the information shared by India” and decided to continue discussing the matter with Indian authorities.

The session that was attended by almost all the major names in government’s national security hierarchy further underscored the administration’s commitment to cooperate with India in countering terrorism.

Another important message conveyed by the meeting was that the entire political and military leadership and institutions were united in their policy of eliminating terrorism and extremism.

India has apparently linked the upcoming foreign secretaries meeting scheduled for Jan 15 to Pakistan’s response to the information provided by it.

An Indian official, meanwhile, said that Pakistan’s formal response to the shared intelligence was still awaited.

“There is no deadline. But, we hope Pakistan takes action in time so that scheduled foreign secretaries talks are not hampered,” the official added.

The participants of the meeting chaired by PM Sharif, according to PMO statement, hoped that both countries would “remain committed to a sustained, meaningful and comprehensive dialogue process”.

Those who attended the national security meeting included Chief of Army Staff Gen Raheel Sharif, Finance Minister Ishaq Dar, Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, Adviser to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz, Special Assistant to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Tariq Fatemi, National Security Adviser retired Lt Gen Nasser Khan Janjua, ISI Director General Lt Gen Rizwan Akhtar, Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry and DG Military Operations Maj Gen Sahir Shamshad Mirza.

Published in Dawn, January 9th, 2016
 
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Concrete evidence needed from India
BAQIR SAJJAD SYED

5690725f05903.jpg
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif discussing security situation in the region with his aides on Friday.—PPI
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan needs concrete evidence from India for acting against the elements it suspects of being involved in the terrorist strike at Pathankot airbase instead of ‘leads’ suggesting the attack was planned and directed from here.

“We are expecting evidence beyond leads and information to proceed as per our law,” a senior official told Dawn in a background discussion after Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif chaired a meeting of his security aides on the Pathankot incident and Pakistan’s response.

Know more: Pakistan reiterates support to India on Pathankot incident

The official’s comments provided an insight into Pakistan’s planned response to India, which had shared what was described as ‘leads’ and ‘actionable intelligence’, with Pakistani authorities. Officials had previously said that the shared information included intercepts of telephone calls made by militants to their alleged handlers and the locations of the numbers which they (militants) had called in Pakistan.

Soon after receiving the ‘leads’ Pakistan had acknowledged that they had been shared and were being investigated. PM Sharif, who had then telephoned his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi, assured him of “prompt and decisive action” against those found guilty.

Prime minister discusses Pathankot attack ‘leads’ with aides
India alleges that militant organisation Jaish-i-Muhammad was behind the attack. Mr Modi in his telephonic conversation with Mr Sharif stressed the need for Pakistan to take firm and immediate action against “the organisations and individuals” India suspected to be linked to the attack.

The meeting at PM House, according to a statement issued by the Prime Minister’s Office, reviewed the “progress on the information shared by India” and decided to continue discussing the matter with Indian authorities.

The session that was attended by almost all the major names in government’s national security hierarchy further underscored the administration’s commitment to cooperate with India in countering terrorism.

Another important message conveyed by the meeting was that the entire political and military leadership and institutions were united in their policy of eliminating terrorism and extremism.

India has apparently linked the upcoming foreign secretaries meeting scheduled for Jan 15 to Pakistan’s response to the information provided by it.

An Indian official, meanwhile, said that Pakistan’s formal response to the shared intelligence was still awaited.

“There is no deadline. But, we hope Pakistan takes action in time so that scheduled foreign secretaries talks are not hampered,” the official added.

The participants of the meeting chaired by PM Sharif, according to PMO statement, hoped that both countries would “remain committed to a sustained, meaningful and comprehensive dialogue process”.

Those who attended the national security meeting included Chief of Army Staff Gen Raheel Sharif, Finance Minister Ishaq Dar, Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, Adviser to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz, Special Assistant to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Tariq Fatemi, National Security Adviser retired Lt Gen Nasser Khan Janjua, ISI Director General Lt Gen Rizwan Akhtar, Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry and DG Military Operations Maj Gen Sahir Shamshad Mirza.

Published in Dawn, January 9th, 2016

India again is coming up with things which if presented in front of a judge will be thrown out of the windi immediately.
 
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..was expected...
..Seriously, India should take different route..
..or how would it be different from UPA's rule..
good example are BSF's reply to rangers , which brought them to knees..to the effect that pakistan had to make the area of India's reply as no-go for media. How can u show ur defeated men in uniform on tv..
 
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..was expected...
..Seriously, India should take different route..
..or how would it be different from UPA's rule..
good example are BSF's reply to rangers , which brought them to knees..to the effect that pakistan had to make the area of India's reply as no-go for media. How can u show ur defeated men in uniform on tv..

Is that the reason last military casualty on LOC is Indian? Some amazing "victory" and some "reply" that is.
 
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good example are BSF's reply to rangers , which brought them to knees.

When this happened? Now don't bring the example of coward attack after calling for flag meet and than doing chest thumping over it.
 
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Well the intruders could have been iNDIAN


"Beta Shaeed hone ja raha hai , khana kha lena "

Ji Amma !! , bus main RAW ko CALL ker dooon pehle, Salary to RAW ne deni hai

:buba_phone:
 
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Is that the reason last military casualty on LOC is Indian? Some amazing "victory" and some "reply" that is.

Its took the Indian army so long to clear the Pathankot base and here they are talking about teaching a Pakistan a lesson.:pop:
 
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I think the operation is still going to clear the base

They spotted some GREEN grass hoppers , the iNIDIAN military is suspecting these could be tied to Pakistani groups , due to the green wardi on Grass hoppers
 
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India again is coming up with things which if presented in front of a judge will be thrown out of the windi immediately.
Zarvan...is this a common understanding in Pakistan?? I mean seriously someone sane in Pakistan might have questioned this notion...how on this earth can India give evidence which is good enough for a judge?? The conspiracy was hatched in Pakistan, handlers were sitting in Pakistan and miscreants have already been killed...now i have asked this few times however please help me understand what do you think India should/can provide??

..was expected...
..Seriously, India should take different route..
..or how would it be different from UPA's rule..
good example are BSF's reply to rangers , which brought them to knees..to the effect that pakistan had to make the area of India's reply as no-go for media. How can u show ur defeated men in uniform on tv..
Doesn't work....apart from making life a living hell for civilians on both sides....in fact there is no single solution to this problem...though i am still hopeful that Pakistan will live up to expectations this time....I do see more and more Pakistanis wishing to bring this saga to a logical conclusion and more importantly GOP has given some positive assurances...

Let's hope for the best...may peace prevails!!
 
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Zarvan...is this a common understanding in Pakistan?? I mean seriously someone sane in Pakistan might have questioned this notion...how on this earth can India give evidence which is good enough for a judge?? The conspiracy was hatched in Pakistan, handlers were sitting in Pakistan and miscreants have already been killed...now i have asked this few times however please help me understand what do you think India should/can provide??


Doesn't work....apart from making life a living hell for civilians on both sides....in fact there is no single solution to this problem...though i am still hopeful that Pakistan will live up to expectations this time....I do see more and more Pakistanis wishing to bring this saga to a logical conclusion and more importantly GOP has given some positive assurances...

Let's hope for the best...may peace prevails!!
Really than go to international criminal court if you have so many solid irrefutiable proof
 
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By the way if there is a leading location based information uncovered from the attackers like phone calls then you can make the operation to uncover the concrete evidence by taking several suspected individuals to custody and interrogating them.India can also search for more evidence and information other than the trivial initial investigation information to point fingers only to Pakistan then wait. They can get more reliable information that way. If still there is no concrete evidence uncovered by both Pakistan and India then the case suspends. So both India and Pakistan should do whatever they can on their own parts so situation won't escalate between the two countries leading to further issues. Also considering many influential players around that would like the confrontation between the two countries grow to take advantage of the situation.
 
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