Agree. Also don't ignore the western-controlled NGOs
Comparative Rail Safety
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Do the accident numbers include suicides as well?
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Good site to document all the train accident around the world.
Starting with the German Train accident.
German train crash: Ten dead, 17 critically injured - CNN.com
Starting with the German Train accident.
German train crash: Ten dead, 17 critically injured - CNN.com
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Death toll of German train crash climbs to 11 as investigators scramble to determine cause
Posted Fri at 7:56am
Key points:
Two trains travelling at high speed crashed head-on Tuesday, in one of Germany's deadliest accidents in years, with one slicing the other apart, ripping a large gash in its side.
Dozens of people were injured, including 20 who are seriously hurt, police said.
Investigators are seeking to determine if the collision was caused by human error or technical fault, as the line was fitted with an automatic braking system.
Routine checks had found the safety mechanism to be "fully functional" just a week before the crash, Transport Minister Alexander Dobrindt said.
One of three black boxes also showed that there was "no technical problem on the line and that the signal handling of the driver was correct," he added.
Nevertheless, Mr Dobrindt said conclusions could only be drawn after all three black boxes had been analysed.
Two of them have been recovered, but investigators were still trying to find the third.
German media had reported that a signal worker had manually deactivated the automatic signalling system to let the first train — which was running late — go past.
That action would have also shut off the automatic braking system, and the station worker had reportedly only realised his colossal mistake when it was too late.
German authorities have not confirmed the reports.
The accident is Germany's first fatal train crash since 2012, when three people were killed and 13 injured in a collision between two regional trains in the western city of Offenbach.
The country's deadliest post-war rail accident happened in 1998, when a high-speed ICE train linking Munich and Hamburg derailed in the northern town of Eschede, killing 101 people and injuring 88.
Posted Fri at 7:56am
Key points:
- Death toll of German train crash reaches 11
- Investigators are seeking to establish the cause of the collision
- German media says the automatic signalling system was deactivated manually
Two trains travelling at high speed crashed head-on Tuesday, in one of Germany's deadliest accidents in years, with one slicing the other apart, ripping a large gash in its side.
Dozens of people were injured, including 20 who are seriously hurt, police said.
Investigators are seeking to determine if the collision was caused by human error or technical fault, as the line was fitted with an automatic braking system.
Routine checks had found the safety mechanism to be "fully functional" just a week before the crash, Transport Minister Alexander Dobrindt said.
One of three black boxes also showed that there was "no technical problem on the line and that the signal handling of the driver was correct," he added.
Nevertheless, Mr Dobrindt said conclusions could only be drawn after all three black boxes had been analysed.
Two of them have been recovered, but investigators were still trying to find the third.
German media had reported that a signal worker had manually deactivated the automatic signalling system to let the first train — which was running late — go past.
That action would have also shut off the automatic braking system, and the station worker had reportedly only realised his colossal mistake when it was too late.
German authorities have not confirmed the reports.
The accident is Germany's first fatal train crash since 2012, when three people were killed and 13 injured in a collision between two regional trains in the western city of Offenbach.
The country's deadliest post-war rail accident happened in 1998, when a high-speed ICE train linking Munich and Hamburg derailed in the northern town of Eschede, killing 101 people and injuring 88.
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Train accidents in just a few days !!! Two accidents in US within two days !
One dead in Dutch train collision - Yahoo7
Car Collides With Amtrak Downeaster In Andover « CBS Boston
2 injured after car collides with Amtrak train | Fox News
One dead in Dutch train collision - Yahoo7
Car Collides With Amtrak Downeaster In Andover « CBS Boston
2 injured after car collides with Amtrak train | Fox News
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Train accidents in just a few days !!! Two accidents in US within two days !
One dead in Dutch train collision - Yahoo7
Car Collides With Amtrak Downeaster In Andover « CBS Boston
2 injured after car collides with Amtrak train | Fox News
RIP to the victim.
On topic, are there any follow up stories in "mainstream" western media? No investigative media? No columnist writing anything? Apparently there is a collective silence.
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Yes and if you read the comments on Yahoo during the German train accident, there were a lot of "RIP to the victims" statement. When China had the train accident in 2011 there were a lot of "LOL made in China" statements.
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2011/06/02
Comparative Rail Safety
Using Wikipedia’s list of rail crashes and its UIC-sourced list of rail passenger-km by country, one can compare different countries’ mainline passenger rail accident fatality rates. The US turns out to be the least safe among the regions I’ve checked, even worse than India; much-maligned China comes out first.
I constructed the list below by averaging accident rates going back to 1991, to smooth out fluctuations coming from low-frequency, high-impact disasters. Crashes involving only freight trains are ignored, and pedestrians and car and bus passengers struck by passenger trains are included. Bombings are excluded, but sabotage incidents leading to accidents are included.
China: 876.22 billion passenger-km/year, 317 deaths over 20 years. This is one death per 55.3 billion passenger-km.
Japan: the UIC claims 253.55 billion passenger-km/year, which only includes JR companies. Figures including private railroads and excluding subways range from 360 to 395.9 billion passenger-km; I believe the higher number since it is slightly less dated. Over 20 years there have been 154 deaths, so this is one death per 51.4 billion passenger-km. Including subways would put Japan on a par with China.
EU-27: 386.24 billion passenger-km/year (presumably mainline only), 603 mainline deaths over 20 years. This does not include 155 deaths from a fire on a funicular. This is one death per 12.8 billion passenger-km, or 1 per 10.2 billion if the funicular fire is included. This varies a lot by country: the safest European countries, such as France and the Netherlands, are on a par with China and Japan, but the EU average is pulled down by Germany (due to Eschede) and the periphery.
South Korea: 31.3 billion passenger-km/year, 93 deaths over 20 years. This is one death per 6.7 billion passenger-km. Here the mainline-only rule is a problem because a) the Seoul subway is even more integrated with commuter rail than the Tokyo subway, and b) a subway fire in Daegu killed 198 people.
India: 838.03 billion passenger-km/year, 2,556 deaths over 20 years. This is one death per 6.6 billion passenger-km.
US: 27.26 billion passenger-km/year (both Amtrak and commuter rail), 159 deaths over 20 years. Note the rate is more than twice that of China per capita, let alone per rail passenger. This is one death per 3.4 billion passenger-km.
For comparison, the US road network has 33,000 accident deaths and 7.35 trillion passenger-km per year, which is one death per 220 million passenger-km.
On a closing note, China not only has the safest passenger trains, but also by far the busiest tracks. Freight density beats that of the US and Russia and passenger density beats that of any European country.
You look like a very mature and a good person
India suffers from both underinvestment in Rail & negative media coverage, both home & abroad.
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Not a surprise, well bro we are descendants of an ancient civilization so let's not reciprocate by making "LOL" fun on their disasters. I ride HSR between Shanghai and Shandong on a regular basis, so wish our engineers continue with the good jobs seen so far, keep us all safe, others' safety are just not our business.
Underinvestment --> Bring investment
Negative media coverage, home --> It doesn't matter
Negative media coverage, abroad --> Who cares
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Modi is really focusing on Infrastructure.New records are being set in building rail Infra
Here is a quote from the interview of Union Minister of railways(state)
" If I could first draw your attention to some of the highlights from the previous budget and year: we had aimed at 1,200 km of doubling, 500 km of new line, 1600 km of electrification and 800 km of gauge conversion. Today, we have the figures till December 2015 with us. And 620 km of doubling has been done, that is about 47 percent more than last year, and if you compare it with the year previous to that, this figure would come out to be around 62 percent more. 448 km of new lines have been laid, that is 162 percent more than last year. 245 km of gauge conversion has happened too, which is 23 percent more than in the year before. 982 km of electrification has been done, till December 2015, and that is 47 percent more than previous year’s figure."
Link to the full interview-http://swarajyamag.com/economy/freight-corridors-are-milestones-no-plans-to-privatise-and-pay-panel-to-be-a-burden-mos-railways
I agree with you on media coverage
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Indeed. Negative media coverage at home and, especially, abroad can be countered by tangible result on the ground that empirically cannot be disproven.
Then the task is to publicize and promote the tangible reality (like the success and indigenization of China's HSR) through extensive media coverage.
Truth will resolutely settle in.
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Dramatic aerial pictures show wreck of California commuter train that derailed and toppled into a creek injuring 14 people
Read more: Altamont Corridor Express train derails in California and falls into Alameda Creek | Daily Mail Online
- The commuter train's front car plunged into a creek, injuring 14 people
- Four people were seriously hurt, with 10 others sustaining minor injuries
- Fire crews fought through fast-moving currents to haul people free from partially-submerged carriage
- 'Miracle' no one was killed in the crash on Monday night, officials said
- Police said large tree swept onto the tracks caused the derailment
Read more: Altamont Corridor Express train derails in California and falls into Alameda Creek | Daily Mail Online
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Amtrak train derails in Kansas; 20 taken to hospitals
Amtrak train derails in Kansas; 20 taken to hospitals
Amtrak train derails in Kansas; 20 taken to hospitals
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Luckily no one was injured in the derailment as the earthquake struck just after midnight.
Also, good to know that the two nuclear reactors were not damaged.
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Quake halts train services, cuts power in Kumamoto
THE ASAHI SHIMBUN
April 15, 2016 at 13:45 JST
A deadhead Kyushu Shinkansen train derailed near JR Kumamoto Station after the earthquake on April 14. (Shiro Nishihata)
KUMAMOTO--A Shinkansen bullet train carrying no passengers derailed about 1.3 kilometers south of JR Kumamoto Station following the powerful earthquake that hit southern Japan on April 14, Kyushu Railway Co. said April 15.
The six-car bullet train was heading from the station to a train yard in Kumamoto city when the emergency brakes were applied due to shaking from the earthquake. The train’s wheels then came off the rails, JR Kysuhu said.
The company said it will suspend operations of the entire Kyushu Shinkansen route between Hakata Station in Fukuoka and Kagoshima-Chuo Station in Kagoshima for at least all of April 15.
It will also suspend operations of the limited express Ariake on the Kagoshima Main Line, which connects Hakata Station and Nagasu Station in Nagasu, northwestern Kumamoto Prefecture, at least for all of April 15.
Kyushu Electric Power Co. said April 15 that 11,400 households remained without electricity in the towns of Mashiki and Kashima and a portion of Kumamoto city in the prefecture as of 11 a.m.
The earthquake measured a maximum 7 on the Japanese seismic scale in Mashiki.
The utility said the two operating reactors at its Sendai nuclear power plant in Satsuma-Sendai, Kagoshima Prefecture, were functioning normally. The two reactors are the only ones running in Japan.
Also, good to know that the two nuclear reactors were not damaged.
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Quake halts train services, cuts power in Kumamoto
THE ASAHI SHIMBUN
April 15, 2016 at 13:45 JST
A deadhead Kyushu Shinkansen train derailed near JR Kumamoto Station after the earthquake on April 14. (Shiro Nishihata)
KUMAMOTO--A Shinkansen bullet train carrying no passengers derailed about 1.3 kilometers south of JR Kumamoto Station following the powerful earthquake that hit southern Japan on April 14, Kyushu Railway Co. said April 15.
The six-car bullet train was heading from the station to a train yard in Kumamoto city when the emergency brakes were applied due to shaking from the earthquake. The train’s wheels then came off the rails, JR Kysuhu said.
The company said it will suspend operations of the entire Kyushu Shinkansen route between Hakata Station in Fukuoka and Kagoshima-Chuo Station in Kagoshima for at least all of April 15.
It will also suspend operations of the limited express Ariake on the Kagoshima Main Line, which connects Hakata Station and Nagasu Station in Nagasu, northwestern Kumamoto Prefecture, at least for all of April 15.
Kyushu Electric Power Co. said April 15 that 11,400 households remained without electricity in the towns of Mashiki and Kashima and a portion of Kumamoto city in the prefecture as of 11 a.m.
The earthquake measured a maximum 7 on the Japanese seismic scale in Mashiki.
The utility said the two operating reactors at its Sendai nuclear power plant in Satsuma-Sendai, Kagoshima Prefecture, were functioning normally. The two reactors are the only ones running in Japan.
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https://www.chinafile.com/reporting...y-china-doesnt-publish-fatal-train-crash-data
Disputes between the two agencies running the trains in China over how to classify and publish details on fatal railroad incidents has kept reports on some fatal accidents last year from surfacing, people close to the matter say.
Several employees of China Railway Corp. (CRC), which builds the country’s railroad networks and manages their commercial operations, said they have received reports about several serious accidents that involved three to 10 deaths last year.
None of the reports have been made public, which would contradict new rules from the National Railway Administration, the agency established in 2013 to handle the non-commercial affairs of the country’s railroad network after the Ministry of Railways was dissolved.
The sources Caixin spoke to did not say how many accidents occurred or how many people died in total.
The railroad administration announced rules in May that said that all companies in the industry must tell it about accidents that caused three deaths or more. Information including investigation results and who was punished and how, should be contained in the report and published on the administration’s website within 20 working days after the report was filed, the rules say. As of January 11, no reports on fatal accidents have appeared on the website’s page.
An official from the Ministry of Transport, which supervises the railroad administration, said the CRC opposed the disclosure rules and has argued for a “more cautious” approach to publishing the information.
He said employees of the ministry and the railroad administration found people at the CRC’s 18 regional bureaus were reluctant to cooperate with them on accident probes and on publishing investigation results.
A source close to the ministry said the administration’s rules were rushed out before all parties concerned agreed on key provisions. Negotiations on new rules seem to have stalled over sharp divisions regarding how to investigate and classify fatal accidents, and when and how to release information to the public, he said.
The CRC has not replied to Caixin’s request for comment.
Opening Slowly
Fatality rates in the railroad industry have traditionally been among China’s most closely guarded secrets. The State Administration of Work Safety has a database for accidents that includes data on deaths and injuries in almost all major industries and most of the information is published on its website.
However, the railroad sector is not included in the database, a source close to the safety watchdog said. Before the CRC was created, the old railroad ministry handled nearly every aspect of accidents, especially when the dead or injured worked for a state-owned company in the railroad industry or had relatives who did, experts who follow reform of the railroad industry say.
The ministry managed to keep information about most accidents in-house because it owned hospitals that treated the injured and the companies that could be ordered to compensate victims, the experts said. It also controlled a network of courts and law enforcement that was funded by and answered to local railroad bureaus. This system was intact until 2012.
The ministry started publishing some data in 2007 on accidents that killed people outside the railroad system. The data show that from 2007 to 2012, the number of deaths involving people outside the industry steadily fell every year. Even in 2011, when a collision of two bullet trains in the eastern city of Wenzhou killed 40 passengers, the annual death toll was still 5.4 percent lower than the previous year, the data show. The ministry has never published the total number of people who died in mishaps every year.
In 2014, the CRC published a death toll for the first time. It said that 1,336 people died in railroad accidents in 2013, down 5.7 percent from a year earlier. It said last year the death toll in 2014 was 1,232.
Xie Feng, China’s ambassador to Indonesia, said in August the casualty rate in the railroad industry over the past decade was 0.02 per 1 billion passengers per kilometer, among the lowest of all nations. China is trying to convince Indonesia and many other countries to let it build their railroad networks.
Yet information regarding specific accidents remain out of reach. Caixin has recently reported on two accidents, one in 2013 that left four people dead and the other in 2014 that killed three, but details on either crash remain unavailable.
Dude that is soooo wrong.
Xinhua is reporting 1,232 deaths in 2014 alone!
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-05/04/c_134209334.htm
"Data released by the National Railway Administration (NRA) showed that 1,232 people died in railway accidents in 2014, down 7.8 percent from 2013, according to the Ministry of Transport website."
That means there were even more in 2013!!!!! Your 317 deaths is completely WRONG
Disputes between the two agencies running the trains in China over how to classify and publish details on fatal railroad incidents has kept reports on some fatal accidents last year from surfacing, people close to the matter say.
Several employees of China Railway Corp. (CRC), which builds the country’s railroad networks and manages their commercial operations, said they have received reports about several serious accidents that involved three to 10 deaths last year.
None of the reports have been made public, which would contradict new rules from the National Railway Administration, the agency established in 2013 to handle the non-commercial affairs of the country’s railroad network after the Ministry of Railways was dissolved.
The sources Caixin spoke to did not say how many accidents occurred or how many people died in total.
The railroad administration announced rules in May that said that all companies in the industry must tell it about accidents that caused three deaths or more. Information including investigation results and who was punished and how, should be contained in the report and published on the administration’s website within 20 working days after the report was filed, the rules say. As of January 11, no reports on fatal accidents have appeared on the website’s page.
An official from the Ministry of Transport, which supervises the railroad administration, said the CRC opposed the disclosure rules and has argued for a “more cautious” approach to publishing the information.
He said employees of the ministry and the railroad administration found people at the CRC’s 18 regional bureaus were reluctant to cooperate with them on accident probes and on publishing investigation results.
A source close to the ministry said the administration’s rules were rushed out before all parties concerned agreed on key provisions. Negotiations on new rules seem to have stalled over sharp divisions regarding how to investigate and classify fatal accidents, and when and how to release information to the public, he said.
The CRC has not replied to Caixin’s request for comment.
Opening Slowly
Fatality rates in the railroad industry have traditionally been among China’s most closely guarded secrets. The State Administration of Work Safety has a database for accidents that includes data on deaths and injuries in almost all major industries and most of the information is published on its website.
However, the railroad sector is not included in the database, a source close to the safety watchdog said. Before the CRC was created, the old railroad ministry handled nearly every aspect of accidents, especially when the dead or injured worked for a state-owned company in the railroad industry or had relatives who did, experts who follow reform of the railroad industry say.
The ministry managed to keep information about most accidents in-house because it owned hospitals that treated the injured and the companies that could be ordered to compensate victims, the experts said. It also controlled a network of courts and law enforcement that was funded by and answered to local railroad bureaus. This system was intact until 2012.
The ministry started publishing some data in 2007 on accidents that killed people outside the railroad system. The data show that from 2007 to 2012, the number of deaths involving people outside the industry steadily fell every year. Even in 2011, when a collision of two bullet trains in the eastern city of Wenzhou killed 40 passengers, the annual death toll was still 5.4 percent lower than the previous year, the data show. The ministry has never published the total number of people who died in mishaps every year.
In 2014, the CRC published a death toll for the first time. It said that 1,336 people died in railroad accidents in 2013, down 5.7 percent from a year earlier. It said last year the death toll in 2014 was 1,232.
Xie Feng, China’s ambassador to Indonesia, said in August the casualty rate in the railroad industry over the past decade was 0.02 per 1 billion passengers per kilometer, among the lowest of all nations. China is trying to convince Indonesia and many other countries to let it build their railroad networks.
Yet information regarding specific accidents remain out of reach. Caixin has recently reported on two accidents, one in 2013 that left four people dead and the other in 2014 that killed three, but details on either crash remain unavailable.
2011/06/02
Dude that is soooo wrong.
Xinhua is reporting 1,232 deaths in 2014 alone!
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-05/04/c_134209334.htm
"Data released by the National Railway Administration (NRA) showed that 1,232 people died in railway accidents in 2014, down 7.8 percent from 2013, according to the Ministry of Transport website."
That means there were even more in 2013!!!!! Your 317 deaths is completely WRONG
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