communism:a better option for developing countries??

[Hussein]

Spoken like a slave of the old American South .......

don' tknow about old American South
But i agree with you

But anyway...
See the world... the social rights the freedom... it was giving a powerful middle class which made the european usa and many countries to live wealthy
A Good system

Now see the model:
A China which is producing cheap because they cheat not only with their money but mostly for not having at all a good evolution of worker rights (i hope it could change)
In the order side westerns and even other countries import from there because they make more benefits in total contradiction for the wealth of the citizens of their country ... but only money matter
it was a fair time when we said it would be fair to see china and many countries be developped
but here we see a country which clearly makes an hegemony policy

I can see in France all the industry being down
In Iran it started now

Communism? what does it mean for them?
maybe the last ones who are communist are the ones in army?

 

[gambit]

In capitalism, man oppresses man.

Fine...

In communism, it's the other way around.

So it is still man who oppresses man.

 

[gambit]

doesnt matter as long as the leaders are genuinely working for the country and the government as a whole is working in one direction. also pure communism doesnt work

Ah...So we are looking for the mythical 'benevolent ruler', aka 'god'. No wonder in any communist regime, 'the leader' is always protected by enforced propaganda that he and 'the party' is never wrong.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

ALL FOR SOCIALISM OR ISLAMIC SYSTEM tht benefits the poor.

 

[gambit]

There are two versions of Communism by in large. I disagree with the Stalin's one (Stalinism/Communism) but I am inspired by Karl Marx version of Communism. Stalin introduced his own version of Communism which benefited him.
According to Karl Marx:
Pure communism in the Marxian sense refers to a classless, stateless and oppression-free society where decisions on what to produce and what policies to pursue are made democratically, allowing every member of society to participate in the decision-making process in both the political and economic spheres of life. In modern usage, communism is often used to refer to the policies of the various communist states, which were authoritarian governments that had centrally planned economies and ownership of all the means of production.

We should not delude ourselves. Communists have proven to be extremely intolerant sort. A nominally 'democratic' process implies different opinions based upon different needs, perceived or real, and different wants. A nominally 'democratic' process implies an allowance for everyone to first express their diversity BEFORE any electoral process can take place. This is not possible with applied communism precisely because of the intolerant attitude of those professed to be Marxists.

Capitalism has many flaws in it...

Capitalism is an economic model.

...and we only have one alternative to solve our problems i.e. direct democracy or 'pure communism' However, considering the population boom, direct democracy can fail; on the contrary, pure communism can solve many problems which we are facing today.

What is this 'direct democracy'?

Any idea of utopian society?
For God sake, we are living in a dystopian society!!!

No such thing as a 'utopian society' as long as there are diverse needs, wants and opinions. To date, there are only two successful true 'communist' societies: the family unit and the monastery (or convent). Take your pick.

 

[applesauce]

Ah...So we are looking for the mythical 'benevolent ruler', aka 'god'. No wonder in any communist regime, 'the leader' is always protected by enforced propaganda that he and 'the party' is never wrong.

maybe your looking for god but don't be putting words in other peoples mouths which you seem to often do.

did i advocate for any kind of political system? i only said leaders that work purely for the benefit of his/her country would be ideal, is it not? did i at any point say the ideal is possible? you seem to assume that because i am chinese and is not a complete anti-communist i must be supporting the communist party and think they are never wrong.

 

[RescueRanger]

Im good thanks, been to Russia and Poland... Seen what communism has to offer and im not buying. Thank you.

 

[Guest]

Yup...communism in governance but capitalistic in economic policy is perhaps the best option for 3rd world countries. China has perhaps perfected the ideal system.

you mean national capitalisim? it has many versions too. from the US(since more and more companies became state-owned or state-run)-> Russia->China, all of them fall into this category.

 

[Guest]

Yeah! China is just perfect as long as you are a member of the elite and/or have no interest in freedom of expression or individual rights that are protected by your government. China has developed into a state of crony capitalism protected my an authoritarian regime. Compared to Mao's version it is heaven!!

maybe you should learn more about China before making such a statment. our cluture and believes is not completely the same with yours. take a look at the figure between China and Australia, noticed the differences?

you can look at the details, meaning of the indicators etc at China - Chinese Geert Hofstede Cultural Dimensions Explained

for serveral thousand years, chinese were told to sacrificed some of their personal interests to make their country better. they have accepted it and are willing to do so. just give you an example, a tridictional chinese family in the past consisted of 3-5 generations, most of them live together that is about 10-20 or sometimes 100+ peoples. so to maintain the harmony and prosperity, individuals has to compromise their interests; otherwise, the big family will breakdown into many smaller ones, which is not allowed in most casees, because the family's prestige and power would fade as the breakdown happened. this is a example of family, but the same theory can be applied to a company and a country.

 

[Guest]

Ah...So we are looking for the mythical 'benevolent ruler', aka 'god'. No wonder in any communist regime, 'the leader' is always protected by enforced propaganda that he and 'the party' is never wrong.

i would prefer to use "wealthy, experienced and time-tested leader", so the basic requirement is "aged". a poor, energetic, aggressive 40+? no way!

 

[Guest]

maybe your looking for god but don't be putting words in other peoples mouths which you seem to often do.

did i advocate for any kind of political system? i only said leaders that work purely for the benefit of his/her country would be ideal, is it not? did i at any point say the ideal is possible? you seem to assume that because i am chinese and is not a complete anti-communist i must be supporting the communist party and think they are never wrong.

yeah, he assumes that all chinese are communist, and everyone who is not in favour of democracy is a communist too.

 

[gambit]

yeah, he assumes that all chinese are communist,...

Nope.

...and everyone who is not in favour of democracy is a communist too.

Yes.

 

[Spring Onion]

Yup...communism in governance but capitalistic in economic policy is perhaps the best option for 3rd world countries. China has perhaps perfected the ideal system.

Capitalism is harming the 3rd world as well as poor countries badly.

So i believe we need some alternate

 

[Spring Onion]

communism for developing countries??

I hope cuba and NK are not your role models...

Cuba recently topped the list of best countries for mothers


Besides these countries have been under the hammer from US of A for too long, official unofficial sanctions and pressures

 

[Justin Joseph]

Communism = Anti people or Genocide of own people


Examples from all over the world:

The communist from Cambodia, Khmer Rouge = Killed 4.8 million people

The communist from China, CPC = Killed 80 million people (Great Leap Forward, Cultural revolution, Tibet, Uighur Muslims, Students etc. etc.)