COAS Holds separate meeting with Rex Tillerson

[volatile]

http://nationalcourier.pk/back-page/tillerson-holds-separate-meeting-coas-bajwa/

US MEDIA CLAIMS

Washington: US broadcasting agency has claimed that US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson held separate meeting with Chief of Army Staff General Qamar Javed Bajwa during his visit to Pakistan. In line with US media, purpose of discussion was to step up peace talks between the Taliban and Afghan government and speed up the endeavors of counter terrorism at regional level. Pakistan believes in Afghan-led peace process and deems reconciliation the only tool for ending war while US Secretary of State has told Pakistan that if it fails to take “decisive” actions against terror groups, Washington will “adjust” its tactics and strategies to achieve the objective in a “different way”. According to voice of America , that Director General Inter-Services Public Relations Major General Asif Ghafoor said that the meeting between the two was ‘candid, frank and without mincing words’. DG ISPR said the COAS emphasized on cooperation and not on coercive tactics. –Online

 

[VCheng]

the COAS emphasized on cooperation and not on coercive tactics.

The COAS is right. It is always better to co-operate wherever possible for mutual benefit if an adversarial confrontation is to be avoided.

 

[Laozi]

According to voice of America , that Director General Inter-Services Public Relations Major General Asif Ghafoor said that the meeting between the two was ‘candid, frank and without mincing words’

Loosely translated in Punjabi

" Hun tu vekhien mein ki karnaa " ......" Jaa, Tu jo kar sakda hai, kar lai "

 

[volatile]

The COAS is right. It is always better to co-operate wherever possible for mutual benefit if an adversarial confrontation is to be avoided.

I think this is not appropriate at this time since the need for separate clearly gives a wrong message since the ministry clearly states that we are working on single window to deal with US

 

[VCheng]

I think this is not appropriate at this time since the need for separate clearly gives a wrong message since the ministry clearly states that we are working on single window to deal with US

COAS>Ministry. Enough said.

 

[volatile]

COAS>Ministry. Enough said.

Sir Check the Constitution i know in Pakistan
COAS > PM/President every one but law states other wise

 

[VCheng]

Sir Check the Constitution i know in Pakistan
COAS > PM/President every one but law states other wise

Isn't that the tragedy that has befallen Pakistan?

I have quoted what the law says here on PDF many, many times, and have been ridiculed and sanctioned for it, to no avail.

 

[volatile]

Isn't that the tragedy that has befallen Pakistan?

I have quoted what the law says here on PDF many, many times, and have been ridiculed and sanctioned for it, to no avail.

These days things are changing very fast and I understand that this platform offers little space to argue on such matters but as discussion we should state what is right and what is wrong who so ever Civil/Millitary ,our discussions are for betterment of Pakistan not to discuss personalities After reading this i was shocked and down as it appears Post 9/11 strategy is knocking on our doors again

 

[VCheng]

These days things are changing very fast and I understand that this platform offers little space to argue on such matters but as discussion we should state what is right and what is wrong who so ever Civil/Millitary ,our discussions are for betterment of Pakistan not to discuss personalities After reading this i was shocked and down as it appears Post 9/11 strategy is knocking on our doors again

Such claims of change are pure dishonesty to disguise the real state of affairs in Pakistan, which is as illegal and abysmal as ever, whether this forum allows it or not.

 

[xyxmt]

This is the real problem with Pakistan, how can anyone take our govt seriously if every aera ghera holds a private meeting with generals. If General Bajwa had an ounce of respect for constitution he would have refuse to meet privately but you do your thing i will do my things since i have guns...mulk ki MC ho jaye khair

 

[!eon]

This is the real problem with Pakistan, how can anyone take our govt seriously if every aera ghera holds a private meeting with generals. If General Bajwa had an ounce of respect for constitution he would have refuse to meet privately but you do your thing i will do my things since i have guns...mulk ki MC ho jaye khair

Commonly in Pakistan, US favor is considered as strength of a man on his post. So why not to hold such meeting when you got a chance ? as law has nothing to do in Pakistan.

 

[TheBlackCoat]

- Pakistan's Military is allied with the US
- PML is allied with Saudi Arabia
- PPP is allied with Russia & China
- ANP is allied with Afghanistan
- PTI is allied with Pakistan's Military

 

[WebMaster]

- PPP is allied with Russia & China

PPP is allied with $$$ bills.

On topic, there is no fire here. Military/Govt has the same tone at this time while dealing with the U.S.. Pakistan has been acting and will continue to act on actionable intelligence.

 

[volatile]

https://www.dawn.com/news/1367853/

Khawaja Asif says his ministry not in control of foreign policy
ISLAMABAD: Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif on Wednesday indirectly conceded that his ministry was not in authoritative control of the country’s foreign policy.

Winding up discussion on the recent visit of the US secretary of state to South Asia and the new American strategy on Afghanistan, he said the foreign policy was being shaped by different institutions and no single institution was in charge of the foreign affairs.

However, he said the policy was framed in the light of recommendations of the National Security Committee and parliament.

The foreign minister, while referring to the remarks made a day earlier by Senator Farhatullah Babar who criticised him for advising the Americans to have an Afghan policy free from the influence of generals and asked him to apply the same in Pakistan, said: “I agree that it should be so.”

He made it clear that he had not “unwittingly” criticised American generals for their failure in Afghanistan, saying the new US policy was ineffective because it was influenced by the generals who suffered defeat in Afghanistan.

“The Americans have devised a framework for their policy for South Asia, which is in fact focused on Afghanistan. It was devised by generals who have struggled in Afghanistan for the last 15 years. I do not think any policy can be made by people with that baggage and mindset,” he remarked.

Mr Asif said he had urged the US State Department and other policy-making institutions of the country to have greater control of the American policy “instead of relying on President Trump’s rejected approach to this problem”.

“If America frames its policy free from the influence [of these generals], it will be much more successful and effective. When they make Pakistan scapegoat, they are in fact covering up their own failures [in Afghanistan],” he repeated. “I am saying this very ‘wittingly’.”

The minister said the concerns expressed and suggestions made by the lawmakers would serve as a guideline in framing the foreign policy. He made it clear that the country’s foreign policy would not be subservient to interests of external powers and would keep in view interests of the country.

Beginning his speech with an acknowledgement of Donald Trump’s assertion that “things have started getting better” in US-Pakistan relations, and thanking the American president for the endorsement, Mr Asif reiterated that Pakistan wanted a regional solution to the Afghan problem.

“The entire region has a role to play in the Afghan process, and Pakistan wishes for a regional solution to the security challenges faced by the country,” he asserted.

“The American secretary of state has told the US Senate that Pakistan needs effective communication on intelligence matters. If intelligence is shared with us effectively, we can expect better results in the future,” he said.

Enforced disappearances
Minister of State for Interior Talal Chaudhry informed the Senate that three women and three children from Awaran, who had gone missing in Quetta, were in the custody of law enforcement agencies. “The Balochistan government has informed us that they had been arrested for attempting to cross the border,” he said.

Earlier, Senate Chairman Raza Rabbani regretted that the state continued to make people disappeared in violation of five articles of the Constitution — 4, 9, 10, 10-A and 14.

Mr Chaudhry said the government had zero tolerance for enforced disappearances and claimed that the trend had declined if not completely eliminated.

On the call of Tahir Hussain Mashhadi of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement, all opposition members in the house staged a walkout in protest against the arrest of the women and children. Senator Usman Khan Kakar of the Pakhtunkhwa Milli Awami Party, an ally of the government, also joined them.

Earlier, speaking on a calling-attention notice regarding disappearance of the wife and children of a Baloch nationalist leader, Senator Babar of the Pakistan Peoples Party warned that a Pakistan delegation to the UN review conference next week would have a hard time explaining mysterious disappearances of citizens with alarming impunity.

He said the activists dissenting from the state narrative faced three threats — they disappear mysteriously, are charged under the Pakistan Electronic Crimes Act (PECA) for endangering integrity of the federation and beaten black and blue in broad daylight by invisible people.

The latest disappearance of the family of the Baloch dissident, the prosecution under PECA of a journalist in Quetta for posting comments viewed as critical of a security agency and the beating up of journalist Ahmad Noorani by invisible people in Islamabad demonstrated this dangerous trend in stifling dissent, he said.

Mr Babar said the Senate’s human rights committee had at a meeting in September last year in Karachi made some recommendations for addressing the issue of missing persons in Sindh. When the committee again visited the city last month it was shocked to find that scores of more people had disappeared, he said.

“Till today not one person has been charged or investigated for involvement in the crime. The unanimous recommendations of the Senate made over a year ago remain unimplemented,” he deplored.

Ethics committee
Chairman Rabbani announced that the Senate’s ethics committee had been operationalised, terming it a big step towards putting in place a mechanism for self-accountability.

He said Senate rules had already been amended to incorporate code of conduct for members. He said the committee ethics, headed by the deputy chairman, consisted of all members of the business advisory committee.

He said the rules provide for a procedure to be adopted by any person for making a complaint against a member of the Senate, and explained that only such complaints would be entertained where the cause of action had arisen after notification of these rules.

Published in Dawn, November 2nd, 2017

 

[TheBlackCoat]

PPP is allied with $$$ bills.

On topic, there is no fire here. Military/Govt has the same tone at this time while dealing with the U.S.. Pakistan has been acting and will continue to act on actionable intelligence.

Everyone in this world is after money. Why single out anyone? PPP had close relations with the USSR and started CPEC with China.