Clash between Shiv Sena and Sikhs in Amritsar

[nature is]

LOL... I thought You said Shiva was Tamil ?



LOL.... which historian says that ?

Vishnu Puran gives a complete list of kings From Manu to Suryavanshi and CHandra Vanshi kings.

It gives a complete list of kings right up to the Mahabharat war and it then goes on to give the list of kings AFTER the Mahabharat wars.

It gives complete lineage of Ikshavaku kings, Maghada Kings and Pandava Kings.

Rajatarangani gives a complete list of kings of Kashmir and North India. Mushika Vamsa Gives a complete list of kings of the south.

There are Jain historical records as well as Buddhist historical records that have survived the ravages of time.

This is above and Beyond the Millions of books are records that were burnt along with the Universities during the islamic invasion.

This does not mean those records never existed ......... only a fool would make that claim given the RICH history of writing and Education in India.

As for Scripts, written script from the Saraswati valley has not yet be deciphered, but it did exist and there are written records of those times.

Unfortunately there were Hieroglyphics like the primitive chinese characters you still continue to use.

Brahmi script however was invented in India since there is no record of any such script OUTSIDE India


Finally Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva are mentioned in the Vedas. Rg veda alone mentions Vishnu 93 times. Mahamrityumjaya Mantra of Shiva is given in the Rg Veda. The word Brahman or brahmana occurs more than a hundred times in the Rig-Veda.

Its funny to see you teach Hinduism to a Hindu


LOL at your claim of longest continuing civilization. Your primitive script and eating habits and primitive culture makes such claims laughable.

Where is your writings about art ? literature ? Architecture ? Dance ? Music ? Drama ? Philosophy ?

Religious story is not History. India has no written history and historian. Greek has Herodotus, Chinese has Sima Qian and many more. Indian has none.

Rome and India: Aspects of Universal History during the Principate," by Walter Schmitthenner; The Journal of Roman Studies, Vol. 69 (1979), pp. 90-106.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/299062?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents


Indian Brahmi script is derived from Semitic script, imported through Persia barely 2200 years old. Chinese writing is almost 4000 years old.

A History of Culture: Indian culture (T. K. Venkataraman, University of Madras)
https://books.google.com.sg/books/about/Indian_culture.html?id=mHEaAAAAIAAJ&redir_esc=y


When you were still illiterate, our oldest book on poetry was compiled 3000 years old
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_of_Poetry

Our oldest ink painting by Gu Kaizhi is 1500 years old, I'm not talking abt cave men drawing By the way, we invented paper.

Great wall was built 2000 years ago. Grand Canal, the largest man-made canal is 1500 years old. You have nothing comparable of the same era. Your famous structure built much much later by Muslims.

 

[MultaniGuy]

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Lol, Sikhs are an unimportant minority.

 

[sinait]

Go back in this thread and see who started this nonsense.

Then Stop it. No point to argue on a religious subject with people who are not religious to start with.
Best to stop it before those who really are devout believers get annoyed.
Not a wise thing to debate on Religion.
I am Agnostic.
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[ZenBird]

All I can say is that it is really stupid of the Hindutva people. What is the use of burning somebody's effigy who is widely respected in Sikh circles and on the day when women, children and many other innocents were killed along with militants?

All this is going to serve is to strengthen the modicum of people who do support Khalistan. All they need to do to kill the Khalistan movement is to shutup, let Sikhs have their martyrs and focus on economic development and progress.

It is really dumb to stir a hornet's nest specially when India faces a multitude of other problems they could be solving instead of creating a new one in Punjab.

 

[ZenBird]

@WebMaster ,@Horus ,@Manticore ,@Irfan Baloch ,@waz ,@Jungibaaz ,@Aether @The Eagle @WAJsal

I would like to clean up the thread and ban the offending members (Singapore and Chinese - please look at the post I quoted as well). I'm not even Hindu like the Muslim sister above (forgive me if I'm wrong about your religion) but there is no call for disrespecting ANY religion. Please let us know if you are unable to or refuse to moderate. Will recuse myself from this forum in that case. Thank you in advance.

So all this while the fool has been worshipping Chinese penises (shiva = Chinese)
@MagicMarker you are free to worship mine too...

 

[sinait]

@WebMaster ,@Horus ,@Manticore ,@Irfan Baloch ,@waz ,@Jungibaaz ,@Aether @The Eagle @WAJsal

Our guest from Singapore deserves a ban for hateful religious comments, flame-baiting and trolling. Please ensure he remains off the forum for a long enough time.

On the contrary, I think my post with member @MagicMarker is an example of how to amicably end a debate on a contentious subject.

I am ready to quite when you do.

Sure. Lets leave Religion out of it.

 

[Finer]

This is not recent phenomenon or question of now, it happens almost every year!!!!!

But why?

 

[ZenBird]

But why?

Local politicians scoring brownie points and cementing vote bank. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Zee-shaun]

Khalistani terrorists claim entire Punjab.. that includes Pakistani Punjab.. now go figure...

They are welcome to join Pakistan. Thousands of Sikh Pilgrims pay visit to Pakistan every year and we never fail to impress them.

 

[Maler]

But why?

Ego & Politics!!!!!

 

[Finer]

Local politicians scoring brownie points and cementing vote bank. Nothing more, nothing less.

I thought it was Pakistan and Muslim card used as brownie points in politics. This is something.
You don't need to use Sikh as card for politics when Pakistan is enough for scoring brownie points. In fact, they get united over Pakistan. So this is something else.

Ego & Politics!!!!!

I can understand ego related but not politics.

 

[ZenBird]

I thought it was Pakistan and Muslim card used as brownie points in politics. This is something.
You don't need to use Sikh as card for politics when Pakistan is enough for scoring brownie points. In fact, they get united over Pakistan. So this is something else.

Well, I gave you the honest answer but you didn't like it brother. Modi doesn't factor into Sikh politics. We are talking local village level politics and old grandfathers with white beards as the votebase in Gurdwara elections. They could care less about Modi or Pakistan. And the other factor is ego like the other dude said. Who's local group has the upper hand over the other, basically a fight for alpha dominance at the local level.

 

[Shajida Khan]

Ban ke rahe ga Khalistan.

We should have a Khalistani flag in Emoticons.

In your dreams! Khalistan is more like La-La-Land. It is not in existance and it will never exist. Only some weirdos will keep on harping about it.

 

[noksss]

Ban ke rahe ga Khalistan.

We should have a Khalistani flag in Emoticons.

All the best man Khalistani has the current day Pakistan as its capital

Our sympathies with the innocent civilian citizens of Khalistan, brutally murdered on that sad day by suppressive, occupational regimen violating all international laws, ethical, and moral values to attack a holy place of worship and kill thousands of civilians including women and children.

I hope one day Khalistan's government finds and penalizes all the involved culprits by death penalty.

when Musharraf stormed the holy place of worship does any of the words suppressive, occupational , international , ethical , moral apply?

 

[Ashesh]

Lol, Sikhs are an unimportant minority.

Apparently, all Infidels are unimportant to Pakistan. That's why their Population has decreased in Pakistan.