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At present, the list includes 1,750 soldiers killed as of February 1, 2015," the press service said.


That's a lot. Imagine you have 1,750 friends on facebook. Remember their faces. They died for nothing. They were killed by civilians. The actual number killed is definitely well over 2,000.

Good shooing NAF :bounce:
 
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That's a lot. Imagine you have 1,750 friends on facebook. Remember their faces. They died for nothing. They were killed by civilians. The actual number killed is definitely well over 2,000.

Good shooing NAF :bounce:

War in Eastern Ukraine is being fought by regular soldiers in which all the equipment such as tanks, artillery, drones, air defenses, mines , rockets, satellites etc.

civilians cant use tanks, artillery, drones, air defenses, rockets and satellites.
 
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War in Eastern Ukraine is being fought by regular soldiers in which all the equipment such as tanks, artillery, drones, air defenses, mines , rockets, satellites etc.

civilians cant use tanks, artillery, drones, air defenses, rockets and satellites.
givi etc defected from the army of the former Ukraine

just look at Syria, clearly you have no idea how a civil war works when a government comes with tanks and bombers to kill it's own people.. people in the forces defect, regulars join an armed resistance.. an outside power (in this case, Russia) provides some support to organize a resistance.. boom, civil war !

the US organized a coup, which was fronted by neo nazis to topple the democratically elected Kiev government and started a genocide against the Russian people.. the people resist, now deal with it..
 
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givi etc defected from the army of the former Ukraine

just look at Syria, clearly you have no idea how a civil war works when a government comes with tanks and bombers to kill it's own people.. people in the forces defect, regulars join an armed resistance.. an outside power (in this case, Russia) provides some support to organize a resistance.. boom, civil war !

the US organized a coup, which was fronted by neo nazis to topple the democratically elected Kiev government and started a genocide against the Russian people.. the people resist, now deal with it..

Case of Iraq, Syria and Libya is different because the scenerio is completely different. Donetsk and Lugansk are small provinces and even the percentage in Ukrainian military was too less from there as most of the people from those regions were working in coal mines as its a coal mine belt.

I dont think that United states would get any benefits by involving itself in Ukraine from starting because it would increase financial burden for United states and already we are seeing how much money is going in troops rotation and all that money is going from US taxpayers.
 
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War in Eastern Ukraine is being fought by regular soldiers in which all the equipment such as tanks, artillery, drones, air defenses, mines , rockets, satellites etc.


No Russian regular soldiers in Ukraine. There are Russian regular soldiers in Crimea, Ukraine doesn't even dare to fight them. What does Ukraine have to fight Russian regular soldiers? Old 1980s arms from the Soviet era? :rofl:

civilians cant use tanks, artillery, drones, air defenses, rockets and satellites.


Sure they can. FSA in Syria uses American TOW anti tank missiles.

givi etc defected from the army of the former Ukraine


Actually, Givi was a supermarket guard :rofl:

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Photos from Truth about situation in... - Truth about situation in Ukraine | Facebook

Donetsk and Lugansk are small provinces


It's not only about Donetsk and Lugansk. The coup overthrew the Party of Regions and the Communist party which together constituted over half the votes of Ukraine. We are talking about a majority forming the resisitance, not a minority.

Freedom fighters in Debaltsevo. See those shiny new black guns? That means they also have new armor piercing bullets to shoot through American body armor :bounce:


Freedom fighters training session.


Freedom fighters artillery.


Freedome fighters ATGM training.

 
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lol oops :P

anyway.. this "russian regulars fighting.." is BS


Ukraine does not dare to fight Crimea where there are Russian regular soldiers. This is proof there is no Russian regular soldiers in Donbas because Ukraine only dares to fight civilians. :rofl:
 
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No Russian regular soldiers in Ukraine. There are Russian regular soldiers in Crimea, Ukraine doesn't even dare to fight them. What does Ukraine have to fight Russian regular soldiers? Old 1980s arms from the Soviet era? :rofl:

Russian Federation regular soldiers are fighting and are even arming separatists. From where Separatists got drones and who are operating them ?


Sure they can. FSA in Syria uses American TOW anti tank missiles.

Any source ?


It's not only about Donetsk and Lugansk. The coup overthrew the Party of Regions and the Communist party which together constituted over half the votes of Ukraine. We are talking about a majority forming the resisitance, not a minority.

Freedom fighters in Debaltsevo. See those shiny new black guns? That means they also have new armor piercing bullets to shoot through American body armor :bounce:

What about the corruption done by the Ex Ukrainian President who is now living in Russian Federation.

Have read in one article that ex President Yanukovych son is expired, Is it true ?

Exiled President Yanukovych's junior son reportedly dies in Lake Baikal accident : UNIAN news
 
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Russian Federation regular soldiers are fighting and are even arming separatists. From where Separatists got drones and who are operating them ?


Why do you think there are Russian regular soldiers fighting in Ukraine? Do you think Ukrainian soldiers dare to fight Russian regular soldiers?

Any source ?


youtube, search FSA TOW

From where Separatists got drones and who are operating them ?


Drones are not hard to operate. Anyone can do that after a 10 minutes training.
 
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Why do you think there are Russian regular soldiers fighting in Ukraine? Do you think Ukrainian soldiers dare to fight Russian regular soldiers?

Civilians can't fight regular army and operate air defense system, tanks, heavy weaponary etc.


Drones are not hard to operate. Anyone can do that after a 10 minutes training.

Civilian drones are completely different from military drones.

Over the night terrorists used heavy attacks against Ukrainian positions | Міністерство оборони України
Monday, March 23. DONBAS – The press center of the ‘anti-terror’ operation (ATO) reports: the confrontation between illegal armed formations and Ukrainian military still goes on.

This night the enemy attacked the Ukrainian positions and used various weapons.

Donetsk: Pisky, Opytne – 120mm mortars, tank.

Lugansk: Orekhovo was shelled by “Grad” launchers.

Mariupil: the enemy’s assault attack ended in failure against Ukrainian positions near Shyrokine.

Artemivsk: Leninske and Shumy – small arms.

Totally, over the night the enemy has violated the truce for 17 times.

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Monday, March 23. VINNYTSYA – For personal courage and professionalism demonstrated during defense of state sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine, by the Presidential Decree of Ukraine of February 26 No. 109/2015 Senior Lieutenant Ivan Benera was awarded by the Order ‘For Courage’ 3rd Degree (posthumously).

On March 21, the family of deceased hero received the order.

Senior Lieutenant Ivan Benera was killed on December 2, 2014 during mortar attack near Avdiyvka.

He defended Belbek airfield on March 22, 2014, when it was stormed by armed Russian militaries. Then he continued the service in Mykolayv. In early November he left for east of Ukraine. R.I.P.

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Militants shell Avdiyivka with heavy artillery and tanks| Ukrinform

KYIV, March 23 /Ukrinform/. Over the last day terrorists have fired on Avdiyivka five times, using heavy artillery, which had to be withdrawn from the line of contact in accordance with the Minsk agreements.

Head of the Information Resistance group Dmytro Tymchuk wrote this on his Facebook page on Monday.

"In particular, over the last day advanced Ukrainian positions in the area of Avdiyivka were shelled five times with 122 mm artillery systems (122 mm Gvozdika self-propelled howitzers and a battery of 122 mm D-30 howitzers)," Tymchuk wrote.

Besides, according to him, the positions of Ukrainian troops in the south-eastern outskirts of the village of Avdiyivka were fired at by militants with tanks (the tactics of "wandering tanks" is used). In total, four militants' tanks were observed in this area.

The map reflecting the situation in Donbas as of 12.00 on March 23 has been released by the information and analytical center of the Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council.
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Russian-backed militants acquire highly mobile Grad-P systems - read on - uatoday.tv
Ukrainian authorities say militants continue amassing manpower and equipment in Ukraine

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UNIAN: Russian-backed militants in the Donbas have obtained a new type of rocket system – the highly mobile Grad-P portable rocket launcher, head of the Information Resistance group Dmytro Tymchuk wrote on his Facebook page on Monday.

"The militants are armed with 9P132 Grad-P Partizan portable rocket launchers in several areas of Luhansk region," Tymchuk said.

"This system is designed by the Soviet Union for supply to Vietnam. It is a 122-mm caliber weapon for firing a single missile from the Grad multiple rocket launch system. This launcher can be quickly assembled and disassembled. It also can be mounted on a light vehicle and equipped with a telescopic sight," Tymchuk said.

"Mobile firing groups of Russian-backed militants, acting directly on the frontline, can be equipped with this launcher," he said.

As UNIAN reported earlier, the Ukrainian authorities say the militants have continued to accumulate manpower and equipment and train fighters near Stakhanov, Alchevsk and Pervomaisk.

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Explosion jolts residential building in Odesa, no one hurt - police
An explosive device went off in a nine-story residential building in Odesa late on Sunday night, the regional police said.

The incident happened at 2, Heraniyeva Street, at about 11:25 p.m. on March 22.

"The explosion damaged non-residential premises on the first floor of a nine-story residential building on Heraniyeva Street. Windows were smashed in a dozen apartments," the report said.

"No one was hurt by the explosion. A bomb squad, forensic specialists and investigators are working on the site," it said.
 
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Koloimoisky mobilizes to topple Poroshenko.

23rd of March, 2015. Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine.
“Thieves are in Kiev and it’s time for these thieves to go away,” – Ukrainian oligarch Igor Kolomoisky’s deputy Gennadiy Korban told a briefing in Dnepropetrovsk today.
“Kiev promised us decentralization and financial automony, but didn't do it. Stop lying about decentralization! Stop lying about the success of carrying out an anti-terrorist operation, the number of killed men at the front, the condition of the army and maintenance of it! Thieves are in Kiev and it’s time for these thieves to go away,” – Gennadiy Korban said.


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