Civil war in Ukraine: News & discussion

[Superboy]

At least 3 UAF soldiers KIA and 5 UAF soldiers WIA over the past 24 hours.

 

[Hindustani78]

At least 14,600 Russian militants killed in east Ukraine conflict - read on - uatoday.tv

Donetsk administration reports total militant deaths

The press service of the Donetsk military-civilian administration has said that some 14,600 Russian-backed militant groups have been killed during Ukraine's Anti-Terrorist Operation in east Ukraine.

The office said some 1,995 militants died during the battle of Debaltseve in February, of which 1,300 were killed by return fire.

The United Nations rights group has said more than 6,000 people have died during the yearlong Russian invasion, which began late last February with annexation of Crimea. Russian-backed groups with ties to Russian secret services in March began capturing administrative buildings in Ukraine's largest eastern cities, including Luhansk and Donetsk.

 

[Superboy]

At least 14,600 Russian militants killed in east Ukraine conflict - read on - uatoday.tv

Donetsk administration reports total militant deaths

The press service of the Donetsk military-civilian administration has said that some 14,600 Russian-backed militant groups have been killed during Ukraine's Anti-Terrorist Operation in east Ukraine.

The office said some 1,995 militants died during the battle of Debaltseve in February, of which 1,300 were killed by return fire.

The United Nations rights group has said more than 6,000 people have died during the yearlong Russian invasion, which began late last February with annexation of Crimea. Russian-backed groups with ties to Russian secret services in March began capturing administrative buildings in Ukraine's largest eastern cities, including Luhansk and Donetsk.

No proof. Besides, war is natural selection. The more weak killed, the better for the country.

 

[Hindustani78]

At least 3 UAF soldiers KIA and 5 UAF soldiers WIA over the past 24 hours.

So it means Ukrainian President was correct when he issued the statement that ceasefire is not working.


Three Ukrainian soldiers killed in past 24 hours: Kiev military| Reuters

Three Ukrainian servicemen have been killed in fighting in the east of Ukraine in the past 24 hours despite a ceasefire agreement with Russian-backed rebels, a Kiev military spokesman said on Tuesday. Five others were wounded.

"The (separatist) fighters are not supporting the ceasefire regime. Attacks are continuing against Ukrainian forces with small arms, mortar and grenade launchers," spokesman Andriy Lysenko told a briefing for journalists.

 

[Superboy]

So it means Ukrainian President was correct when he issued the statement that ceasefire is not working.

There will never be ceasefire until west Ukrainians leave east Ukraine and go back to west Ukraine.

 

[Hindustani78]

There will never be ceasefire until west Ukrainians leave east Ukraine and go back to west Ukraine.

But here the soldiers of Russian Federation are fightng.

 

[Superboy]

But here the soldiers of Russian Federation are fightng.

There are no regulars of Russia in Donbas. Regulars never fight without cover from air force and navy. Russian poor people who have no jobs go to Donbas to make a new living. You can watch this and learn.

 

[metronome]

 

[Hindustani78]

There are no regulars of Russia in Donbas. Regulars never fight without cover from air force and navy. Russian poor people who have no jobs go to Donbas to make a new living. You can watch this and learn.

Girkin, a Russian nationalist and Russian intelligence officer, claimed in an interview published in November in a nationalist Russian magazine that he and his team of special operations soldiers first “pulled the trigger of war” in the Donbas by occupying police and security offices in towns and cities in the region.
http://www.unian.info/war/1056016-girkin-more-fighting-in-donbas-inevitable.html
Is it not consider as direct involvement of Russian regular troops ?


Servicemen man a position in front of slagheap of a coal mine on the position of Ukrainian forces on front line near small eastern Ukrainian city of Kurakhove, Donetsk region on March 11, 2015.
© AFP

 

[Superboy]

Is it not consider as direct involvement of Russian regular troops ?

FSB is like CIA, not regular soldiers. CIA uses armed drones to kill people all the time. They are not army personnel.

 

[Hindustani78]

FSB is like CIA, not regular soldiers. CIA uses armed drones to kill people all the time. They are not army personnel.

Why you always drag CIA ? So are there any regular soldiers fighting in Ukraine ?

 

[metronome]

Why you always drag CIA ? So are there any regular soldiers fighting in Ukraine ?

lots of Russian volunteers (civvies), maybe some special forces to organize the Novorossiyan army for training/tactics but not regular Russian troops.

they are needed there to fight the US installed fascist government and protect the ethnic Russian population.

 

[Superboy]

Why you always drag CIA ? So are there any regular soldiers fighting in Ukraine ?

There are no Russian regular soldier fighting in Ukraine. If that were the case, the Russian air force would have been deployed to provide close air support. The only Russians fighting in Ukraine are unemployed poor people, as you can see below.

 

[Hindustani78]

There are no Russian regular soldier fighting in Ukraine. If that were the case, the Russian air force would have been deployed to provide close air support. The only Russians fighting in Ukraine are unemployed poor people, as you can see below.

I think the reason for not deploying RAF is quite simple. Ukrainian armed forces are having air defenses which can bring down Russian fighter planes.

In Georgian war even the same thing occured and those were termed as Russian militias.

 

[Superboy]

I think the reason for not deploying RAF is quite simple. Ukrainian armed forces are having air defenses which can bring down Russian fighter planes.

Not so. Libya was not able to shoot down a single NATO plane which have advanced jamming. Ukraine only has 1980s air defense systems which can be easily jammed by Su-35S's jamming system.

In Georgian war even the same thing occured and those were termed as Russian militias.

The Russian air force was deployed in the Russia Georgia war.