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CIA/Indian/Afghan Involvement in WoT in Pakistan

How come US have more intelligence on Pakistan than Pakistan it self,


Interesting question - what do you suppose needing to ask such a question tells us about the quality of intelligence collected and dessiminated by Pakistani authorities?

Do you think Pakistani authorities have been successful for the past 7 years in convincing the Pakistani public that WOT is a war Pakistan has to fight to save itself?

Have they been successful in convincing the public of the need to move away from extremist religious and political positions and expresions?

If you find that you cannot answer in the affirmative, what conclusion might you have to reach about the commitment of authorities?

What conclusion might you reach about the media's unwillingness to partner against terrorism and extremist religious and political expresssion??

What conclusion might you reach about the politicians unwillingness to take on terrorism and extremist religious and political expression?

Why is extremism as popular in Pakistan as it seems to be?

One can argue and I think credibly that foreign parties are involved in acts of terror in Pakistan, but they are clearly bit players, after all, the foreigners are not twisting the Pakistani's arm to commit such acts, are they? And you will note the seemingly endless supply of, in most cases, rather young men, willing to do suicide bombings, are those also foreigners??

Seems to me Pakistanis will not be able to partner with anybody in the WOT - it is a war they must lose - like everything else they must learn the hardv way because they have some "holy cows" of their own about which they are unwilling to think clearly.
 
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But we kill the Indians if they walk in my street.

Pak army is also Pakistan, ISI is also Pakistan and Our leadership is also Pakistan. We consider those who hate us as someone who are can never be sincere to us.
oh thats so rude of u......will u do the same for me your lovable bro.......but i am sure thet every pak is not like u.......GOI might be involved in terrorism in pak and GOP in india and who are the loosers people like us.......please be softer to indian people we r not bad as the RAW CIA or the relegious extremists........i would blame god for relegions because he made the grave mistake of appearing in different places at different times and in different forms but it has happened so lets create a world of humanism and rather than secularism:angel:

regards
 
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oh thats so rude of u......will u do the same for me your lovable bro.......but i am sure thet every pak is not like u.......GOI might be involved in terrorism in pak and GOP in india and who are the loosers people like us.......please be softer to indian people we r not bad as the RAW CIA or the relegious extremists........i would blame god for relegions because he made the grave mistake of appearing in different places at different times and in different forms but it has happened so lets create a world of humanism and rather than secularism:angel:

regards


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You dint understand what i said :)

how old you are ?
 
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We have concerns about Indians involvement in terrorist activities in Pakistan through its consulates in Afghanistan so buying your argument Pakistan is also justified for taking advantage of any situation that would justify terrorist activities in India right ???


One has to accept the reality that all three regional players India Pakistan and Iran want to have strong hold in Afghanistan and their acivities are known to the world for this purpose. Saying that India is silent player in the current situation and doing nothing against Pakistan will be nothing but to closing eyes towards her role by the Indians.

Currently NATO is incharge of whole thing in Afghanistan and it has closed eyes towards drug trade which is contributing to weapons. Karzai is pro-India and Anti-Pakistan pig, Rangeen Dadfar is Pro-India and anti-Pakistan, Mr Abdullah Abdullah (who was the Peon of Ahmad Shah Mehsud ) is pro-India and anti-Pakistan.

Northern Alliance is currently in rule, the alliance is funded by India and the activities of NA against Pakistan are not hidden from anyone.

CIA has already started a war against Pakistan and ISI.

If anyone say that India is soo inocent that it is not doing anything against Pakistan well only the idiots advocate and can believe this keping in view global geo-political game.

Just coz some afghans are anti-pak doesnt mean they are responsible for terrorist attacks in pakistan. and about the indian consulates, its because india wants good realtions with afghanistan, since they are a gateway to the oil and gas fields of central asia.

Jana, as a journalist you should know that every claim you make should be backed up with proof. so just like u ask for proof when India blames ISI for some bombing, please present conclusive proof of indian involvement in terrorism in pakistan. Till then, its nothing but a blame game.
 
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india wants good realtions with afghanistan, since they are a gateway to the oil and gas fields of central asia


Interesting statement -- And presumably hostile relations with Pakistan will enable India to access this gateway?? Or Hostile relations with Pakistan will enable Afghanistan to access the Indian market??
 
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This article, which has quotes from the then information minister Nisar Memon confirms Jana's point from an official perspective.


India promotes terror in Balochistan: Pakistan

January 24, 2008 23:44 IST

India is interfering in Pakistan's internal affairs through "information centers" it has set up in Afghanistan and promoting terrorism in Balochistan, caretaker Information Minister Nisar Memon has said.

Addressing a news conference in the southwestern city of Quetta, Memon said India should avoid interfering in Pakistan's internal matters.

Such actions, he said, went against the spirit of the ongoing composite dialogue process.

Referring to Indian Navy chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta's comment that the Gwadar Port on the Balochistan coast has "serious strategic implications for India", Memon described the statement as proof of India's "involvement in promoting terrorism in Balochistan".

Memon said the statement regarding Gwadar Port, which is being built by Pakistan with Chinese help, strengthens doubts about India's "involvement in attempts to create a law and order situation in Balochistan".

He said India had set up 13 information centres in Afghanistan with the prime objective of spreading "disinformation" and disturbing the peace in Balochistan to "hamper the construction of Gwadar Port".

The port will play an important role in Pakistan's economy and provide a trade gateway for the entire region. In view of its significance, India did not want its smooth completion, Memon said.

"We reject the statements of Indian leaders," Memon said.

Such statements could have a negative impact on bilateral relations and vitiate the atmosphere, he added.

"Pakistan will also not tolerate any interference in Gwadar," the minister said.

Memon emphasized the government's resolve for the timely completion of the port to usher in a new era of progress and prosperity for Balochistan and the rest of Pakistan.
 
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Neighbouring countries involved in terrorist activities: sources
Wednesday, September 03, 2008
By Javed Aziz Khan

PESHAWAR: Investigation into the terrorist incidents across the country has established the involvement of a spy agency of a neighbouring country in most of the bloody incidents, official sources told The News.

"There are proofs that many of the terrorist gangs operating in the Frontier, the Fata and other parts of the country are being funded and provided explosives and weapons by the spy agency of a neighbouring country," a senior investigator said while requesting anonymity.

The official added that secret agents and some individuals of another neighbouring country were facilitating contacts between agents of the aforesaid spy agency and members of the criminal rings that were bombing and rocketing places all over the country.

"The make of the improvised explosive devices (IEDs) used in different blasts is a clear indication that these bombs were made by properly skilled military people and not untrained locals, working for different rings," the official disclosed.

The official said the spy agency transported explosives and money to the criminals through another neighbouring country. "The DTMF (Dual-Tone Multi-Frequency) circuits, the RDX (explosive) material and plastic explosives that are being used in roadside IEDs are purely of the latest technology that is coming from abroad. The detonators and the latest model remote control system are also being provided from a foreign country," the official disclosed.

Sources said criminals, as members of their rings, operating in Peshawar and Charsadda were being paid monthly salary and huge share in booty. Money for this purpose, these sources continued, is being provided by the spy agency of the neighbouring country.

"Police had got incontrovertible evidence that apart from bomb blasts in different districts and tribal agencies of the country, the aforesaid spy agency was involved in the killing of three Chinese technicians in suburban Daudzai village of Peshawar last year. The purpose was to affect the ideal Sino-Pak relationship," the official claimed.

In that case, people in Afghanistan, the source disclosed, gave the accused persons a huge amount in dollars. The source added that another such connection was found about three persons who were killed in a blast in Yakatoot area while handling their own IED. "One of the deceased was an Afghan, having connections with a foreign spy agency," the source revealed.:eek::eek:


Neighbouring countries involved in terrorist activities: sources
 
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By Gregory R. Copley

Thursday, 5 September 2008.

Ahmed Quraishi-Pakistan/Middle East politics, Iraq war, lebanon war, India Pakistan relations

WASHINGTON, D.C.—The U.S. conduct of the war in Afghanistan has created an enormous potential for instability in Pakistan, which Washington has claimed is a major ‘non-NATO ally’ on which it depends.

U.S. and Western media reporting currently portrays the problems facing ISAF as coming into Afghanistan from Pakistan, but the reality is the reverse of this: stirring the problem in Afghanistan causes problems to flow into Pakistan.

Always brushed aside in Washington discussions is the reality that Pakistan still cares for 3.5-million Afghani refugees remaining from the earlier proxy war which the U.S. waged from 1980 to 1988 against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. And, with the U.S.-led conflict against the Taliban in Afghanistan since September 11, 2001, the problems continue to pour from Afghanistan into Pakistan. Moreover, as the U.S. intelligence community is well aware, this is a problem which is exacerbated not only by the Taliban alliance with the so-called al-Qaida movement, moving into Pakistan from Afghanistan, but also because of covert support by the Indian Government and its intelligence services — principally RAW, the Research & Analysis Wing — for the jihadist movement.

India’s involvement follows an historical geopolitical pattern, but much of it is institutionalized as ‘payback’ for Pakistani Government support for the Muslim separatist movement in Indian-occupied Jammu & Kashmir over the past decades. At the same time, close U.S.-Indian intelligence ties at a formal level and within the Afghan battlespace mean that India is feeding a range of ‘tailored intelligence’ into the U.S. system which shapes U.S. political and intelligence perceptions of the situation, encouraging the belief that ‘Pakistan is the problem’ in resolving the counter-Taliban conflict in Afghanistan.

There is no doubt that it is comforting for many U.S analysts and journalists to have a scapegoat for the frustrations of the conflict, and it certainly avoids any self-examination by U.S. policymakers, or any considered view of recent and longer-term history.

One reality is that ISAF has only some 47,000 troops on the ground in Afghanistan, and not all of those are along the Pakistan-Afghan border. Moreover, quite separately from anything which could be blamed on Pakistan, the Afghan Helmand province is home to a significant proportion of ISAF troops and yet still cultivates some 50 percent of the opium poppy produced in Afghanistan. Some 70 percent of the opium coming from Afghanistan — and funding the Taliban and al-Qaida/Iranian-linked terrorist movements in the region and as far afield as Kosovo and Bosnia — is produced in five Afghan provinces bordering Pakistan.

These are provinces ‘controlled’ by ISAF, not by Pakistan, and the nexus between the drug mafia and the Taliban/al-Qaida is evidenced by the amount of money which Taliban members are paying to defectors from the Afghan security forces and other officials, as well as in the purchase of weapons for their own use. Indeed, the Taliban/al-Qaida ability to generate income and control derives not just from trafficking in narcotics on their own account, but also on their ability to charge “transit fees” and to demand payments for protection.

The whole process of poppy cultivation, transportation, processing, and the like is more than merely a Taliban/al-Qaida event; it is pervasive through much of Afghan society, and divides the population from both ISAF and national governance. Opium poppy cultivation in Afghanistan rose from 104,000 hectares in 2005, to 161,000 hectares in 2006, to 193,000 hectares in 2007, despite the fact that 13 out of 34 Afghan provinces have been declared to be “drug free”. In terms of quantities produced, opium production rose by 59 percent from 2005 to 2006, and 30 percent from 2006 to 2007.

Afghanistan’s internal opium economy is worth some $4-billion, some 53 percent of the Afghan GDP (and some $50-billion on the international market). Clearly, if the bulk of the Afghan economy is narcoticsdriven, then the ability of either the Afghan Government or ISAF to control the situation is limited, quite apart from the Taliban/al-Qaida input.

It is not surprising, therefore, that some 60 to 70 percent of the Afghan Parliament is occupied by former mujahedin, ex-communists, drug barons, and warlords, who not only control both houses of Parliament but, as a result, prevent the establishment of the Central Government’s writ across the country. It is clearly not in the interests of most of the lawmakers that the national Government should exercise law and order across the land, and, meanwhile, Pres. Hamid Karzai is hardly in a position to marginalize these lawmakers.

Indeed, 2008 is proving to be a pivotal year for Pres. Karzai. He has been unable to create any sustainable agriculture and employment in the country, and has been unable to create a climate of security. This situation is unlikely to improve: non-Pushtuns, and particularly the Afghan Tajik population, remain concerned that any unity within the Pushtuns would work against their interests, and consistently attempt to marginalize them. Pres. Karzai is a Pushtun.

The recent (2006-07) creation of the United National Front (UNF) party — essentially a new incarnation of the old Northern Alliance — (led by former President of Afghanistan Burhanuddin Rabbani) threatens Pres. Karzai, and he has launched a new party, the Hizb-e-Jamhuri Khwahan Afghanistan, to counter the UNF. So the instability in Afghanistan extends far beyond the issue of the resurgence of the Taliban or the presence of remnants of al-Qaida (or groups or individuals claiming allegiance to al-Qaida).

As well, the Afghan National Army (ANA) is falling behind in its recruiting, retention, and capability goals. It should have had 150,000 men on strength by 2006, but it still stands at only some 70,000 troops, and its units are not capable of undertaking independent operations. The National Police force (ANP) has fared little better. Some 58,000 personnel of the ANP, Highway Police, and Border Police have received training — mostly from Germany, with U.S. assistance — and of these some 12,000 have received specialist training.

Only the presence of ISAF forces, in fact, keeps the nominal writ of the Afghan Government alive, and then only because of the advanced technology, logistics, and skills of the foreign military forces.

Indeed, far from the solution being to ‘put U.S. boots on the ground’ in Pakistan, ISAF should wish for Pakistani ‘boots on the ground’ in Afghanistan, but this would only compound Pakistan’s own problems, as well as its costs in human and economic terms. It may be that the U.S. feels that Indian activities which put weapons in the hands of tribal members inside Pakistan keeps Pakistan on the defensive, and forces it to deal with the problems of the tribal areas — which have remained outside the control of the central Government since the times of British occupation in the mid-19th Century until the 21st Century — but the reality is that Indian stimulation of jihadism or tribal unrest in the Pakistani Federally-Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) and elsewhere merely compounds the problem in the entire region.

The Afghan Government of Hamid Karzai is actively cooperating with the Indian intelligence agencies through the Afghan intelligence agencies, the Ministry of the Interior, and the Ministry of Borders and Tribal Affairs (under Karim Barahowie), in launching covert activities against Pakistani areas. Part of this may be out of concern over earlier (post-Soviet occupation, but pre-9/11) cooperation by Pakistan with the Taliban, although clearly Pakistan abandoned and then turned on the Taliban after the “Global War on Terror” began, and it became clear that the Taliban was engaged in supporting the spread of international terrorist activities.

Whatever the reason for Pres. Karzai’s support for Indian use of Afghanistan as a base of operations against Pakistan, it is clear that the U.S. Government is aware of the cooperation and the input of substantial amounts of direct and indirect weapons and financial support to the jihadist, criminal, and terrorist movements operating inside Pakistan, and yet does nothing about it. Massive quantities of munitions, much of it identified as coming from India, have been captured by Pakistani forces operating against insurgents in Swat, FATA, and Balochistan. Apart from the strong presence of Indian advisors dominating the Afghan Government, India has established a string of consulates and intelligence posts inside Afghanistan along the border with Pakistan.

The Indian Government has created a string of “consulates” along the Afghan side of the Pakistan border, largely as intelligence collection facilities, and a large number of Indian intelligence officials were working closely with Afghan intelligence officials. This has caused the Pakistan Government some concern, given that the U.S. has facilitated the Indian intelligence build-up against Pakistan to be conducted while the Pakistan Army and Government have been working with the U.S. in the area. There is more than a little feeling in Islamabad that this has been an act of poor faith on the part of the U.S. toward Pakistan, on which the U.S. is completely reliant.

At the same time, Pakistan, now facing a major food and energy shortage, continues to pump economic and other aid to the Karzai Government in Afghanistan. Pakistan has committed some $300-million to reconstruction in Afghanistan, and even while I was with Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani on May 22, 2008, he was called by Pres. Karzai asking for Pakistan to release a further 30,000 or more tons of wheat aid to Afghanistan. Apart from that, however, the well-financed Afghan black market has the ability to finance wheat and flour smuggled across the border from Pakistan, causing Pakistani domestic prices and supply into a precarious position.

As this writer has noted elsewhere [Defense & Foreign Affairs Special Analysis, May 20, 2008: Lessons of the Great War for Civilization], the entire epoch of war which has engulfed Afghanistan and much of Pakistan has caused the tribal areas of Pakistan’s FATA, Balochistan, and areas of North-West Frontier Province (NWFP) to finally be broken open, and the control of this hitherto inaccessible area now possibly open to the writ of the national Government. In other words, it may now be possible — assuming that Islamabad can actually exert its writ over the tribal areas — to bring all of the country into the Pakistani entity.

But that cannot happen solely by force of arms. It involves not only ensuring the long-term ability of the Federal Government to enforce law and order, but also to introduce the priority of Pakistani nationalism ahead of tribal identity, and to ensure the introduction of the national educational curriculum, and the infrastructure required to integrate the tribal areas into the national economy.

As the 11th/12th century Persian poet Omar Khayyám said: “Ah Love! Could thou and I with Fate conspire / To grasp this sorry Scheme of Things entire, / Would not we shatter it to bits ... and then / Re-mold it nearer to the Heart’s Desire!”

Despite the reality that this is a long-term process, the U.S. Government has kept hinting — and privately insisting — that it should be allowed to put “boots on the ground” and intervene militarily in the complex FATA and other tribal areas of Pakistan, even though the U.S. has been unable to manage affairs inside Afghanistan, or even to prevent the Afghan unrest from spilling in human, ideological, corruption, narcotrafficking, and weapons trafficking terms into Pakistan. Indeed, there is no consciousness of the reality that the situation began to unravel in Afghanistan as a direct result of U.S. Pres. Jimmy Carter’s moves to destabilize and overthrow the Shah of Iran, which gained momentum in 1978 (and to which this writer had close, first-hand knowledge).

The Carter destruction of the Shah, with all of its unforeseen consequences, led to the downfall on April 29, 1978, of Afghan Pres. Mohammed Daud Khan, whom the Shah had long supported. The coup, led by Khalq-faction (communist party) chief Nur Mohammed Taraki, led to an invitation to the USSR to send troops into Afghanistan, and the war began which has continued in various forms until this day. This writer spent considerable time in Tehran during the 1970s, with the Shah, and then in Pakistan, watching these events unfold, and watching the tide of unrest and instability move across the Durand Line from Afghanistan into Pakistan.

And even as the U.S. funded the anti-Soviet mujahedin in Afghanistan — via Pakistan and with the help of then-Pres. Mohammed Zia ul-Haq — India maintained a strong presence in Kabul, as it does now. This is a strategic imperative for India, but U.S. officials should not be unaware of the consequences of India’s, or the U.S.’, actions.

U.S. media reporting and U.S. officials, buying their own propaganda that the war against the Taliban is going well — a process known in the intelligence community as ‘drinking your own bathwater’ — and insisting that the problem is only that Pakistan is “not doing enough in the war on terror” have failed to understand that (a) Pakistan has committed more men and lives to the “war on terror” than the U.S., but is also suffering far more from it than the U.S., and (b) that Pakistan is using both carrot and stick to achieve long-term victory over terrorism, insurgency, and secessionist or anarchical tendencies in its border areas.

[Pakistan has significantly controlled the supply of weapons in the country, while trying to control the porous border with Afghanistan. It has issued a ban on new weapons’ licenses, a ban on displaying any kind of weapons, and a ban on the possession of illegal weapons. It has recovered some 600,000 weapons in the past few years, along with 3.5-million rounds of ammunition. It has promulgated a new Anti-Terrorism Act and established Anti-Terrorist Courts to deal speedily with terrorism cases. It has dramatically reorganized, retrained, and upgraded its police forces. It has required the registration of the madarasas — Islamic schools — some of which were once used as recruiting facilities for jihadist fighters. The Government had, by May 2008, registered 14,800 madarasas and was in the process of registering a further 400, while at the same time legally demanding that these schools adhere to a Government-approved curriculum and keeping a check on foreign students at these facilities. New madarasas can be opened only with Government permission.

Substantial new immigration controls have ensured that the normal flow of people into Pakistan through airports and official checkpoints can be strictly monitored through the PISCES (personal identification secure comparison and evaluation system) process.

The Pakistan Government has banned seven sectarian organizations, seven jihadi organizations, and one ethnic organization which were believed to have been engaged in questionable activities. The entire Government has reoriented its approach to intelligence and security at a strategic level, creating a capability which is now world class, and which has as a key component its counter-terrorist wing (CTW).

As a result, Pakistan now cooperates with more than 50 governments worldwide.

Pakistani security forces had, since the start of the “Global War on Terror” and until late May 2008, conducted 407 raids on suspected foreign nationals in the country, arresting 871 individuals, of whom 600 were extradited. Pakistan was responsible for busting al-Qaida’s Anthrax Network in 2003, the al-Ghuraba Network in September 2003, the big UK-based Anglo-Pakistani network (March 2004), the Jandullah Group (June 2004), the Amjad Farooqi Network (September 2004), the Abu Faraj Network (May 2005), the Abu Talha Network (September 2004), the Hussain Bana Network (October 2005), the Taliban Media Support Network (October 2005), the Hamza Rabbia Network (November 2005), a key London-based network (August 2006), and a major suicide bomber group (February 2007), and so on.

The list of arrested senior terrorist figures, and the list of killed senior terrorist leaders, by Pakistani forces, is significant. It has also arrested (as of late May 2008) 298 senior Taliban figures, and most of these were repatriated to Afghanistan Government care. However, not only has the Afghan Government failed to account for what happened to these Taliban, the Pakistan Government has since identified that some of them were released by the Afghan Government despite being on so-called wanted lists of the Karzai Government. As a result, the Pakistan Government has, for the moment, stopped handing over some arrested Taliban figures so that they could be questioned by Pakistani officials.]

Clearly, however, as anyone who has viewed the Afghan-Pakistan border can attest, there is no possibility that neither the Pakistan Government— nor the NATO forces— could control ingress and egress across the border, the 2,560km of the Durand Line. The terrain along the border, barren and mountainous, is not only difficult to access, but also determines the life and hardiness of the tribal populations along it. And, of course, many of these tribal peoples have been divided by the arbitrary nature of the border drawn (or approved) by Sir Mortimer Durand, the Foreign Secretary of the British Indian Government, in 1894-95.

The U.S. Government quietly wants to insert Special Forces units into these areas to pursue Taliban and/or al-Qaida leaders, and has already violated agreements with Pakistan by launching air strikes into Pakistani territory several times in 2008 alone. But if the U.S. wanted to “put boots on the ground”, it would be best served by offering to put US Army Corps of Engineers capabilities into the tribal areas to help build roads, clinics, schools, and the like, to ensure that the underpinnings are secured for the creation of a stable, educated, and productive population which can be persuaded to become Pakistani, removing them from the influence of either the funds and weapons being offered, tantalizingly, by the new generation of minor and major Afghani warlords, or their own maliks, the tribal chiefs or elders.

This is no easy task: the Pakistani tribal areas have a population of 3.8-million, of whom 90 percent live below the poverty line. But first, however, US policymakers have to decide whether they really wish to win the conflict they are fighting in Afghanistan, or merely whether they wish to find someone to blame for their failure.

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During Sovient invasion of Afghanistan too all failures were blamed by CIA on ISI. Americans always keep one scapegoat to blame their failures on. Today too it is Pakistan/ISI.

I hope they understand the ground reality quickly enough but again the question is whether they wish to win the war or blame their failures on others.:angry:
 
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Excellent article Munshi sahib.

And what has the US response been to Pakistani concerns?

Conduct unilateral attacks in a deliberate attempt to destabilize the country.

Why deliberate? Because the repercussions from such moves are patently obvious. This is a long term war with long term solutions, yet the imbecilic attitudes and ignorance that has drawn battle lines of the 'axis of evil' sort seem to have permeated through the a significant amount of the defense establishment (we know the government is sold on this, since it peddled this simplistic buffoonery bordering on bigotry).

How does the pro WoT GoP retain face with the electorate with this? How does it continue to survive in office when events like these create an outpouring of outrage that will eventually be impossible to control?

The goal here is quite obviously to push Pakistan towards internal destabilization.

The United States is no friend of ours, it is becoming clear (Muse was correct in this) and perhaps for the first time in my life I'm actually looking at an Islamist government in Pakistan as a favorable development.
 
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More misguided missiles by Ahmed Quraishi and...



.....good luck with that.

Thank you - this continues, and the Iranian belligerence and isolation actually looks preferable.

But whether the US will push Pakistan to that point remains to be seen. Surely the buff-oons and ideologues in the US defense establishment are not infinite in number.
 
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By the way - the article is from Ahmed Qureishis website, not authored by him.
 
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Thank you - this continues, and the Iranian belligerence and isolation actually looks preferable.

What is more preferable depends on what you hold more important - Pakistan as a state, or Pakistan as a people.

Nationalists often have to make a tough choice between the two.

But whether the US will push Pakistan to that point remains to be seen. Surely the buff-oons and ideologues in the US defense establishment are not infinite.

Lets wait for change in November. Perhaps the new administration will adopt a more sustainable and effective way to fight terrorism.
 
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