Christian forum slams RSS for remarks on Church-Maoist nexus

[SanjeevaniButi]

Okay babaji cool meme now take your meds and go to bed, you don't want that Arthritis to kick in again, do you?

I am 36 year old kiddo ... how old are you ? ....... or do you want to hide that too ?

 

[FULL_METAL]

I am 36 year old kiddo ... how old are you ? ....... or do you want to hide that too ?

Really? I thought you babysat for Jesus I am turning 29 day after tom

 

[SanjeevaniButi]

Really? I thought you babysat for Jesus I am turning 26 day after tom

Jesus is a Fictional character so its hard to babysit him. The name itself comes from Jeshua or Yeshua which literally means "son" in hebrew.

Which would he Munna or Beta in Hindi.

Christ comes from the Roman god Sun god "Christos Helios".

M.E meets Rome and we have "jesus christ"

 

[FULL_METAL]

Jesus is a Fictional character so its hard to babysit him. The name itself comes from Jeshua or Yeshua which literally means "son" in hebrew.

Which would he Munna or Beta in Hindi.

Christ comes from the Roman god Sun god "Christos Helios".

M.E meets Rome and we have "jesus christ"

Are u for real man o man that was a common yo momma joke, damn man you are thick

anyways It's pointless to make fun of you cuz it will take you the rest of the night to figure it out

am gonna be 29 btw it was a typo

 

[SanjeevaniButi]

Are u for real man o man that was a common yo momma joke, damn man you are thick

anyways It's pointless to make fun of you cuz it will take you the rest of the day to figure it out

am gonna be 29 btw it was a typo

...nope just wanted to finger you one last time before logging off

 

[FULL_METAL]

...nope just wanted to finger you one last time before logging off

I can feel for your loneliness no wifey or GF? why am I not surprised

pdf prolly the only place where you feel a lill manly, I don't wanna take that from you

 

[vayuputhra]

Gandhi fought against christian rule so is he a sanghi?

 

[oproh]

India needs to stop the persecution of its minorities. India routinely violates the rights of its minority citizens, america needs to spank india.

 

[takeiteasy]

america needs to spank india.

Indians need to spank RSS&Co. what the fcuk America has to do here? India is not Awghanistan or Syria.

 

[rubyjackass]

This is a fight which all normal people should keep out of. This is a fight over utter useless stuff.

You are converting people. No YOU are threatening us. You are Maoists. No YOU are attacking us.

There is zilch benefit from any of these groups after governance has started to reach every remote tribal village in India.

 

[bloo]

I have posted links of FACTS, cases proven in the court of Law. Does not get any more real that

You denying them does not make it any less Factual.

Eight sentenced to life imprisonment for VHP leader's murder | Daily Mail Online

Bitter Melons Links are valid too. All FACTS. Denial is not a river in Egypt.


Now this is what the RSS leader said,

Why Maoists never attack churches in Chhattisgarh? RSS leader asks | india | Hindustan Times

Calling churches and Christian community to play an “active role” in eradicating Left-wing extremism, senior RSS leader Indresh Kumar on Sunday wondered why Maoists have “never targeted” the minority community in Chhattisgarh.

“Development can be achieved (only) through peace and brotherhood and not through violence. I have raised a few questions keeping in view Chhattisgarh which has been suffering from the menace of Maoism with a high degree. “Maoists have never targeted churches and priests just because they serve them or is there some other reason?” he asked, while interacting with reporters on the sidelines of a programme organised by Forum for Awareness of National Security (FANS) in Raipur, to discuss Left-wing insurgency prevailing in south Chhattisgarh.

Stating that he was putting “a few questions” before the Christian community and others working in Bastar region, the RSS leader said arms and huge sums of foreign money have been supplied to the red ultras. “...People from media, society and government provide information regarding illegal activities being carried out in the region.

Have churches ever tipped off media or government about such kind of violent and illegal activities in the region?” he asked.

However, Indresh clarified that he was not questionning integrity of churches.

“My intention is not to criticise churches. I know they are committed to India and their people believe in serving the nation, but I want their active role in eradicating Maoism, therefore I have put forth these issues. “They should decide whether the movement has brought life or death to the region, educated people or snatched away literacy from them, ensured better health or ruined health facilities, triggered development or stalled growth,” he said.

Indresh also appealed to the ultras to quit the path of violence and contribute in building a new Chhattisgarh. “The movement of fear should get transformed into a movement for development. It should become a movement for humanity rather than a movement of violence,” Indresh added.

Are you blind or just in denial?
What part of all of that looks like FACT to you?
A fact is "a thing that is known or proved to be true" all of the RSS comments are just speculations and won't hold 1 second in the court of law.

Again, are the SIkhs not attacked coz they too are with the Maoists?

You replied to my post where I was talking about my opinion of Christianity and Islam. So that was not related to RSS at all, just in case you have reading difficulties.

As far as RSS quotes in this case are concerned, that is what Indian security establishment thinks too. Only some things are not to be stated out loud.

Former IB chief: Maoists won't hurt collector - Rediff.com India News

Just because it is a public forum does not mean you come and belch out whatever you want and display your ignorance.

Just to let you know I never disagreed to your religion comment, if you think otherwise then that's your premature evaluation, I can't help that.

My riposte was against the stream of thought in this particular thread where minorities would be considered malicious just because of some opinions by a previously banned organization famous for their involvement in communal riots and being inimical to minorities

From your own link. Nothing similar to the RSS comments.

Speaking on condition that he would not be identified by name for this report, the former IB chief claimed, "Maoism is a political movement and the Maoists can be as opportunistic as the BJP (Bharatiya Janata Party), the Congress and other political parties."

"In the tribal areas of India," he explained, "lots of young tribals are converting to Christianity for their personal growth and their family's welfare. The Maoists would never like to be unpopular among this core constituency."

"We should not communalise the issue," the former IB director said, but reasoned "that a study of the politics of the Maoists suggests they will treat the collector well."

"I wish and pray Menon comes home safe," the former IB chief said. "His kidnappers are unlikely to behave like the radical Islamists who have a tendency to displease their own people and community. The Maoists are shrewd and will bargain hard, but not behave recklessly."

Again, just coz you don't understand something that agitates your popular stream of thought doesn't make it ignorance. Don't like my comment, you can close your eyes.

 

[SanjeevaniButi]

Are you blind or just in denial?
What part of all of that looks like FACT to you?
A fact is "a thing that is known or proved to be true" all of the RSS comments are just speculations and won't hold 1 second in the court of law.

Again, are the SIkhs not attacked coz they too are with the Maoists?

The Fact where 8 Christian Maoist were sentenced by the court for Killing a Hindu saint affiliated to the VHP

Click on the Link Provided. Are you Blind ? or just Stupid ?


The Central Committee of the Communist Party of India-Maoist declares: This “Maoist” statement warned the VHP of “more such punishments if it continued violence against religious minorities in the country” and called for a ban on groups linked to the Sangh Parivar, such as the VHP, its youth wing Bajrang Dal, right-wing Hindu political party Shiv Sena and the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).


This is a most unusual Maoist group. A Maoist group that finds only one particular religion as the “persecutor”, finds all “Christians” innocent, deplores “rabid anti-Christianism”, and most significantly is absolutely against “burning down Churches” – and still calls itself “Maoist” – unbelievable ? Only in "secular" India.



VHP, BJP leaders on Maoists' hit-list in Orissa : Latest Headlines, News - India Today

......Deep inside the jungles near Kandhamal last week Sabyasachi Panda alias Sunil, secretary of the Orissa division of the CPI (Maoists) told a group of journalists that top three leaders of Sangh Parivar-BJP leader LK Advani and VHP leaders Ashok Singhal and Praveen Togadia were on their 'ht-list'.

"We will kill the trio whenever we get the chance". The 'most wanted' underground leader made it clear that they executed the Swami because he was responsible for the persecution and forced re-conversion of Dalit-Christians. The state Maoist Chief made it clear that they were angry with the Hindutava outfits for conducting forced re-conversion.



Are there Maoist in Punjab to kill Sikhs ? ....... Nice try.

 

[bloo]

The Fact where 8 Christian Maoist were sentenced by the court for Killing a Hindu saint affiliated to the VHP

Click on the Link Provided. Are you Blind ? or just Stupid ?


The Central Committee of the Communist Party of India-Maoist declares: This “Maoist” statement warned the VHP of “more such punishments if it continued violence against religious minorities in the country” and called for a ban on groups linked to the Sangh Parivar, such as the VHP, its youth wing Bajrang Dal, right-wing Hindu political party Shiv Sena and the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).


This is a most unusual Maoist group. A Maoist group that finds only one particular religion as the “persecutor”, finds all “Christians” innocent, deplores “rabid anti-Christianism”, and most significantly is absolutely against “burning down Churches” – and still calls itself “Maoist” – unbelievable ? Only in "secular" India.



VHP, BJP leaders on Maoists' hit-list in Orissa : Latest Headlines, News - India Today

......Deep inside the jungles near Kandhamal last week Sabyasachi Panda alias Sunil, secretary of the Orissa division of the CPI (Maoists) told a group of journalists that top three leaders of Sangh Parivar-BJP leader LK Advani and VHP leaders Ashok Singhal and Praveen Togadia were on their 'ht-list'.

"We will kill the trio whenever we get the chance". The 'most wanted' underground leader made it clear that they executed the Swami because he was responsible for the persecution and forced re-conversion of Dalit-Christians. The state Maoist Chief made it clear that they were angry with the Hindutava outfits for conducting forced re-conversion.



Are there Maoist in Punjab to kill Sikhs ? ....... Nice try.

Wow, keep living in your Chaddi LALA Land.

Read the link yourself, 8 Maoists were sentenced not Christian Maoists. you changing the heading is your own cultivated bias and prejudice.
Maoists are punks who'll eventually be wiped out by the army or the oncoming economic boom but their existence is justified by the very presence of groups like RSS that incited communal riots in Orissa and other Eastern parts and further divide communities.

Keep nursing that denial in the meantime.

 

[SanjeevaniButi]

Bharatkalyan97: Maoists supporting Christian Missionaries in forced conversion

The proceedings of the Tribunal were conducted under the banner of Forum for Social Justice. The Tribunal comprised of eminent people like, former DG of Punjab Police Shri KPS Gill, senior writer Bhavdeep Kang, former IPS Shri PC Dogra, Air Marshal (retd) Shri RS Bedi, Swami Shantatmananda, Justice (retd) Shri Suresh Soni, Justice (retd) Shri BK Gupta, Justice (retd) Shri DS Tewatia, former Ambassador Shri Prabhat Shukla, director of Centre for Policy Studies Dr JK Bajaj, Smt Usha Goel, Shri Vinod Bawari, Shri Shaurya Doval and Col. (retd) Shri PK Panda.


1. ARCHANA Bhagat, a 21-year old Vanvasi woman from Jashpur Nagar district of Chhattisgarh, made her way to Delhi to give her testimony before a Tribunal comprising of eminent bureaucrats, retired judges, ambassadors, academicians and journalists on September 5. Her husband was brutally assassinated by missionaries for resisting an onslaught on his Vanvasi culture two years ago, leaving Archana to fend for herself and her ten months baby.

2. when a Jamatia Vanvasi student of Law (final year) in Delhi University informed about the conversion of his fellow 17 students in the national capital itself, by funds provided by Tripura Christian Fellow Organisation. One Vanvasi named Nikhil pointed out that now the Christian missionaries are taking help of Maoists to pressurise the Hindu Vanvasis for conversion. He also told that there is a clear nexus between Maoists and Christian Missionaries. Maoists are appointing Christians as their commander in the area.

3. Gadadhar Pradhan from Kandhmal district of Orissa informed the Tribunal how the land of his family members and other villagers was forcibly garbed by the Christians. Nandini Pradhan from same Kandhmal district pointed out that Christians intimidate the women against using Hindu symbols like bindi, sindoor, etc. They even torture the Hindu farmers visiting the market to sell their agriculture produces.

4. Pawitra Kanhal, who is a teacher in Kandhmal district of Orissa explained how he was framed in a false case by the missionaries and he had to remain in jail for 50 days. His only crime was that he had opposed the cow slaughter. Passing Golmai from Imphal said he was himself allured to get married with a beautiful and working Christian girl if I became a Christian, but he refused.

“Once a group of church people caught me and intimidated to stop doing bhajan keertan in the region. They set me free with the threat to face dire consequences if I did not stop doing bhajan keertan. They also create troubles in the celebration of Hindu festivals, he said pointing out that over 200 of the total 311 villages in his region have now churches.

5. Sunil from Golaghat (North East) informed how he was converted into Christianity for just Rs 500 and when he returned Hinduism after sometime he was forced to return the amount with interest. Rameshwar Rathia from Korba district of Chhattisgarh said church-supported people come from Jharkhand side and forcefully settle on the vacant land of their village. He said the land that they once occupy is not vacant at any cost. Jamdari Reang who was forced to leave Mizoram with his family some years back and now lives in Tripura, informed how all his family members converted into Christianity but he refused despite repeated pressure. He pointed out that with the change of religion the thinking of the entire family changed towards him and Hindu customs.

Wow, keep living in your Chaddi LALA Land.

Read the link yourself, 8 Maoists were sentenced not Christian Maoists. you changing the heading is your own cultivated bias and prejudice.
Maoists are punks who'll eventually be wiped out by the army or the oncoming economic boom but their existence is justified by the very presence of groups like RSS that incited communal riots in Orissa and other Eastern parts and further divide communities.

Keep nursing that denial in the meantime.

Then why is the christian community is panic ?

1. convicted seven Christians for the murder of the Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati – wikipedia | odiakhabar


2. INDIA: Seven Christians Given Life Sentences; Convicted of Murder

3. Five sentenced to life for killing pastor during Orissa mayhem | Christian News on Christian Today

 

[bloo]

Then why is the christian community is panic ?

Maybe coz Indian Christians like other minorities are being openly persecuted more so than whatever a group of few Maoists had ever done to Hindus.
This was a direct result of the more heinous riots that RSS instigated, not the other way round.