Chinese win bid to supply subs to Thailand's navy

[cnleio]

How good is the quality of Chinese made sub?

I heard that they are very loud.
How long are their life time?

Just west media said, not photo to prove... and they said M1A1 undefeated tank and advanced F-22 is the best fighter ... i think we had seen their deadbody on TV news.

 

[Beidou2020]

Just west media said, not photo to prove... and they said M1A1 undefeated tank and advanced F-22 is the best fighter ... i think we had seen their deadbody on TV news.

The west also said their F-117 stealth plane was 'untouchable'

We all know how the Serbians made a mockery of that Western claim.

 

[Shotgunner51]

Thailand has decided to buy submarines from China. Should China be concerned? LOL. The Western spin machine runs on pure anti-China hatred which does not require logic or rationale.
Anticipate another spin from the same hatemongers.

Western propaganda mouthpieces will now try to say China was chosen because of tech transfer and training

Bros, western propaganda is just doing the normality, i.e. hate.

Like I said before:
China never expect smile from the west, nor care about their hate, cos both are equally worthless.

The following was the news on January about Subs proposed by China. It is based on Yuan class type 039A. The export version is called S26T.

จีนนับเป็นประเทศแรกในปี 2015 นี้ที่ส่งตัวแทนบริษัทมาเสนอแบบเรือดำน้ำให้กองทัพเรือครับ
โดย CSOS(China Shipbuilding & offshore International Co., Ltd) นั้นก็เป็นบริษัทด้านการสร้างเรือรบในเครือของ CSIC(China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation)
ซึ่งเป็นรัฐวิสาหกิจด้านอุตสาหกรรมต่อเรือรายใหญ่ของจีน

Submarine S26T ก็น่าจะเป็นแบบเรือสำหรับการส่งออกโดยเฉพาะเหมือนเรือดำน้ำแบบ S20 ที่เคยมีการนำเสนอข้อมูลให้กองทัพเรือไทยไปครับ
โดย S26T นี่ดูจากการตั้งชื่อรุ่นแบบเรือแล้วน่าจะเป็นที่ออกแบบมาสำหรับเพื่อส่งออกให้กองทัพเรือไทยโดยเฉพาะ
เพราะ การตั้งชื่อรุ่นแบบเรือนี้เป็นอย่างเดียวกับเรือฟริเกต Type 053T ชุด ร.ล.เจ้าพระยา, Type 053HT ชุด ร.ล.กระบุรี และ F25T ชุด ร.ล.นเรศวร เป็นต้น
ซึ่ง S26T นี่ก็น่าจะเหมือนกับ S20 ที่มีพื้นฐานที่ย่อส่วนมาจากเรือดำน้ำดีเซล-ไฟฟ้าแบบ Type 039A Yuan ของกองทัพเรือปลดปล่อยประชาชนจีน
เรือชั้น Yuan เป็นเรือดำน้ำลาดตระเวนเดินสมุทรขนาดใหญ่ระวางขับน้ำ 3,600tons ยาว 75m มี Torpedo ๖ท่อยิง กำลังพล ๖๕นาย ซึ่งใช้ Technology ขั้นสูงเช่นระบบ AIP เป็นต้น
แต่คุณสมบัติแบบเรือ S26T ตอนนี้ยังค้นข้อมูลไม่ได้ครับ แต่ถ้าที่ CSOS เสนอข้อมูลว่าคือเรือชั้น Yuan สำหรับกองทัพเรือไทย
ก็ไม่แน่ใจว่าเรือแบบ S26T นี่จะมีความใกล้เคียงกับเรือชั้น Yuan ที่จีนใช้เองมากที่สุดและก้าวหน้าที่สุดในรุ่นส่งออกหรือไม่ครับ
(คงต้องรอข้อมูลเพิ่มเติมจากกองเรือดำน้ำก่อน)

Sa Wa Di Cup again!
Thanks bro!

 

[VALKRYIE]

It was a cost effective choice. Russian Kilo would have been better, more affordable then EU but better quality than China.

If the government were to approve the submarine purchase today, time will be needed to build the ships and send personnel for training for one or more years, which means that it will take five or six years before they can enter the service.

It looks like subs won't be ready until 2020.

 

[zeronet]

It was a cost effective choice. Russian Kilo would have been better, more affordable then EU but better quality than China.



It looks like subs won't be ready until 2020.

but kilo, also provided by russian this time, is rejected by thailand, not a single vote goes to kilo. note training package is also provided by china. u have to understand who is the potential enemy of thailand navy, it is obviously vietnam's kilo, no one in this world know better than chinese on how to kill a kilo, that is what 'training' means to thailand navy.

 

[Jlaw]

Yes. Treaty Ally.

Why Americans did not provide their subs?

It was a cost effective choice. Russian Kilo would have been better, more affordable then EU but better quality than China.

Looks like the Canadian school have failed you.

"The source said China beat other competitors as it offered subs equipped with superior weaponry and technology. Its subs are also able to stay underwater longer."

 

[Viet]

good buy. we can stage some naval fun games with the siamese, with their boats as excercise targets.

 

[Aepsilons]

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The navy has picked Chinese submarines costing 12 billion baht each to be commissioned in the force, a source on the procurement committee says.

The majority of the 17-strong committee voted to buy three Chinese submarines, saying it was the "best value for money". The rest were split between submarines from Germany and South Korea.
The navy also received offers from Russia, Sweden and France.

The source said China beat other competitors as it offered subs equipped with superior weaponry and technology. Its subs are also able to stay underwater longer. Deputy Prime Minister and Defence MinisterPrawit Wongsuwon backs the submarine project, citing a growing territorial threat and an increasing number of maritime missions. He said many neighbouring countries are also deploying submarines.


Gen Prawit said he would forward to the cabinet the navy's submarine procurement decision once it becomes available.

Before the procurement panel made its decision, Gen Prawit was quoted by a navy source as saying that if the submarines were not bought by the current government, the navy might not have the chance to to get them again. In 2011, the navy looked into the purchase of six German-made submarines at a cost of 7.7 billion baht.


However, the project was rejected by the then Yingluck Shinawatra government. The navy revived the submarine project after the May 22 military coup last year amid speculation that China would win the the deal to build and supply subs to Thailand, given the military government's strengthening relations with Beijing.

The government earlier gave the navy 200 million baht to study the feasibility of buying the submarines and gather information on a proposed procurement.

A member of the navy procurement panel noted the Chinese have advanced rapidly in the development of armaments

Sawat di krap! o ni pan hoi nit noi nit noi. aroi mak na krap!

good buy. we can stage some naval fun games with the siamese, with their boats as excercise targets.

It would be great to see the capabilities of Kilo class against the Chinese made subs.

Great for qualitative analyses.

Why Americans did not provide their subs?

Thailand cannot afford it.

 

[Genesis]

It would be great to see the capabilities of Kilo class against the Chinese made subs.

Great for qualitative analyses.

You can see that, in the Chinese navy, we have both, remember.

Thailand cannot afford it.

Not to mention, America has no diesel subs, and no one can sell a nuclear one, here we are.

Looks like the Canadian school have failed you.

"The source said China beat other competitors as it offered subs equipped with superior weaponry and technology. Its subs are also able to stay underwater longer."

Confirmation bias, seems like Canadian schools have taught him just right.

 

[Daniel808]

Congrats for Royal Thai Navy !
Finally, You will have your "First" Submarines.
Hope that the 'AIP' one.

 

[Viet]

It would be great to see the capabilities of Kilo class against the Chinese made subs.

Great for qualitative analyses.

yes, what I mean. we can test our capacity on chinese made subs. staging some hunting games in the SC Sea and in the Gulf of Thailand.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

yes, what I mean. we can test our capacity on chinese made subs. staging some hunting games in the SC Sea and in the Gulf of Thailand.

Well, China is selling them the AIP subs, while none of your subs have the AIP system.

So you cannot afford to stay longer in the water, and you will surely lose this cat and mouse game.

 

[Viet]

Well, China is selling them the AIP subs, while none of your subs have the AIP system.

So you cannot afford to stay longer in the water, and you will surely lose this cat and mouse game.

the gulf of thailand is very shallow. with max depth of 85m. it is much easier to detect subs than such hiding in the deep water of the SC Sea. even subs with AIP, provided you deliver 3 to thailand, will have hard times to escape detection. a AIP sub has advantages against a surface warship, but not against a conventional sub. AIP or not is the decision factor.

thai subs can operate in the indian ocean, but I don´t think our subs will go so far.

 

[cnleio]

but kilo, also provided by russian this time, is rejected by thailand, not a single vote goes to kilo. note training package is also provided by china. u have to understand who is the potential enemy of thailand navy, it is obviously vietnam's kilo, no one in this world know better than chinese on how to kill a kilo, that is what 'training' means to thailand navy.

YES，right now china navy owned 12x Kilo ... 20 years ago imported 1st from Russia, chinese knew Kilo much more than Vietnamese.

 

[mike2000 is back]

It was a cost effective choice. Russian Kilo would have been better, more affordable then EU but better quality than China.



It looks like subs won't be ready until 2020.

Well you are right. However i thought you know why Thailand didn't choose Russian subs. Answer is: because Vietnam already uses Kilo submarines from Russia. We all know Thailand sees Vietnam and Malaysia as a potential threat. So there you go.