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Chinese VD200: The World First Vertical Takeoff and Landing Drone

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The US currently has its own kind of this type drone in development according to this news: Northrop Grumman scored another win this last year after its Tactically Exploited Reconnaissance Node (TERN) concept was tapped for full-scale demonstration. The DARPA and Office of Naval Research-led program seeks to give Navy surface combatants, like destroyers and Littoral Combat Ships, fixed-wing aircraft carrier-like capabilities, albeit on a smaller scale. It’s a move that could change naval warfare, and warfare in general, as we know it.
DARPA's Vertical Take Off And Landing Combat Drone Could Revolutionize Naval Combat

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I mean, quadcopter drones exist, so that's technically untrue.
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How about this ?

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and this

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Well you need first to check whether it is workable, not just a prototype in a lab. Secondly, you need to check the date and functionality of this drone.

There were news about VD200 nearly 2 years ago, such as the following one:
The fifth UAS China Conference & Exhibition 2014 is held from September 16 to 18. Lots of drone producers attend the occasion and display their newest drones. Chengdu Aircraft Design Institute of China Aviation Corp. displays its VD200 VTOL drone system that can take off and land vertically as well as fly as a fixed-wing aircraft at high speed.
Source: huanqiu.com “Chengdu Aircraft Corp. displays VTOL fixed-wing drone” (summary by Chan Kai Yee based on the report in Chinese)
 
that one flied back to 2006, several versions of it designed back to 1998
 
I mean, quadcopter drones exist, so that's technically untrue.
Thanks for the nitpicking, next time I ought to be more careful in choosing my words, maybe "Combatant Drone flying as a fixed -wing aircraft at high speed even at seas" more precise?

that one flied back to 2006, several versions of it designed back to 1998
Yeah? What about other points I raised? Why the above said US (TERN) concept which was tapped for full-scale demonstration is similar looking to VD200, not to the one you posted?
 
Yeah? What about other points I raised? Why the above said US (TERN) concept which was tapped for full-scale demonstration is similar looking to VD200, not to the one you posted?

you quoted my post with the old ones.
anyway, VD200 isn't the world first

The fifth UAS China Conference & Exhibition 2014 is held from September 16 to 18. Lots of drone producers attend the occasion and display their newest drones. Chengdu Aircraft Design Institute of China Aviation Corp. displays its VD200 VTOL drone system that can take off and land vertically as well as fly as a fixed-wing aircraft at high speed.

SkyTote to demonstrate high-speed flight with vertical takeoff

Posted 3/31/2006 Updated 3/31/2006
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by Karen Y. Jackson
Air Force Research Laboratory Public Affairs

3/31/2006 - WRIGHT-PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE, Ohio -- Air Force Research Laboratory scientists are working on a novel unmanned air vehicle called SkyTote that will take off and land vertically like a helicopter, but also transition into horizontal flight like a conventional aircraft.

SkyTote's primary mission to deliver a payload to a specific point within a tactically relevant range and time is a Small Business Innovative Research (SBIR) Phase II effort orchestrated by AeroVironment Inc of Monrovia, Calif., for AFRL's Air Vehicles Directorate.

According to AFRL's Tom Cord, SkyTote program manager, the aircraft is a concept demonstrator and not a working system. "We are not trying to reach a certain performance and capability; we are trying to show that a hovering UAV with a fast, forward speed is a likelihood. It's something we can do in a simple way," he said.

Researchers are hopeful that after careful analysis and testing, SkyTote will become a safe, inexpensive and reliable choice for assessing bomb damage and conducting resupply missions or emergency troop evacuations. The SkyTote combines the vertical takeoff, and landing and hover capabilities of helicopters with the high-speed cruise capability of a fixed-wing aircraft. Counter-rotating propellers with individual cyclic control provide propulsion. Propulsion and transition from wing to propeller flight are some of the major technical challenges in this effort.

Because of the cyclic control, SkyTote has the look of a helicopter when it is flying in helicopter mode. When it is flying like an airplane, the helicopter propeller-rotor system functions more like a propeller.

"It's not a great rotor or propeller; it's a good compromise between a helicopter rotor system and an airplane propeller, and that's part of what we are trying to show is that this system will work well for this type of airplane. When you look at the design parameters, you either go one way or the other. When you start to blend the two systems together, it becomes challenging. That is one of the big areas we have addressed during the past few years," Mr. Cord said.

Researchers have been working on various versions of the SkyTote since 1998. The original vehicle was smaller with a design meant to deliver a 400-pound payload to a point within a 300-mile range in less than two hours. During the initial design phase, the vehicle was redesigned from the original 2-foot to an 8-foot vehicle to make it more realistic and usable for customers.

The new test vehicle was altered to carry a 50-pound payload within 150 nautical miles because researchers believed a medium-sized vehicle would be a more representative test of technology and would be directly useful to customers. Mr. Cord said these characteristics cannot be met by conventional helicopters and fixed-wing vehicles. Conventional helicopters with the same payload characteristics can only attain speeds between 100 and 105 knots, while the SkyTote, equipped with hover capabilities, can attain speeds of 200 knots.

The change in payload capabilities created a more realistic, mechanical system, rather than a simplified concept demonstrator. It also created more challenges for developers. "We had to choose a different type of engine, a 52-horsepower engine from UAV Engines, Ltd., a real engine that could be seen in a car almost," Mr. Cord said. "Our vehicle is 208 pounds, so we've grown significantly. We added a more complex transmission, too."

A more complex, heavier mechanical system also meant that developers had to look closely at the control aspects of the vehicle. "The reason for this is that excess power reduces the need for a carefully conceived flight control system and helps avoid several problem areas, such as loss of control. With less thrust-to-weight, we have to rely on the flight control system and the pilot to keep us out of dangerous flight conditions. Autonomous control gives us an advantage during testing because it provides safer, more efficient tests," Mr. Cord said.

During testing, SkyTote is expected to operate in hover and conventional wing-borne flight while also transitioning from hover to wing-borne and back. A pilot will be standing by to take control of the plane, if needed. However, most of the testing will be controlled autonomously. Developers say these transitions have to be done at least five times to demonstrate that SkyTote and its characteristics are a good concept and should be considered for future applications.

The next cycle of SkyTote testing will be conducted in June at Camp Roberts in California.
 
you quoted my post with the old ones.
anyway, VD200 isn't the world first



SkyTote to demonstrate high-speed flight with vertical takeoff

Posted 3/31/2006 Updated 3/31/2006
transparent.gif

by Karen Y. Jackson
Air Force Research Laboratory Public Affairs

3/31/2006 - WRIGHT-PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE, Ohio -- Air Force Research Laboratory scientists are working on a novel unmanned air vehicle called SkyTote that will take off and land vertically like a helicopter, but also transition into horizontal flight like a conventional aircraft.

SkyTote's primary mission to deliver a payload to a specific point within a tactically relevant range and time is a Small Business Innovative Research (SBIR) Phase II effort orchestrated by AeroVironment Inc of Monrovia, Calif., for AFRL's Air Vehicles Directorate.

According to AFRL's Tom Cord, SkyTote program manager, the aircraft is a concept demonstrator and not a working system. "We are not trying to reach a certain performance and capability; we are trying to show that a hovering UAV with a fast, forward speed is a likelihood. It's something we can do in a simple way," he said.

Researchers are hopeful that after careful analysis and testing, SkyTote will become a safe, inexpensive and reliable choice for assessing bomb damage and conducting resupply missions or emergency troop evacuations. The SkyTote combines the vertical takeoff, and landing and hover capabilities of helicopters with the high-speed cruise capability of a fixed-wing aircraft. Counter-rotating propellers with individual cyclic control provide propulsion. Propulsion and transition from wing to propeller flight are some of the major technical challenges in this effort.

Because of the cyclic control, SkyTote has the look of a helicopter when it is flying in helicopter mode. When it is flying like an airplane, the helicopter propeller-rotor system functions more like a propeller.

"It's not a great rotor or propeller; it's a good compromise between a helicopter rotor system and an airplane propeller, and that's part of what we are trying to show is that this system will work well for this type of airplane. When you look at the design parameters, you either go one way or the other. When you start to blend the two systems together, it becomes challenging. That is one of the big areas we have addressed during the past few years," Mr. Cord said.

Researchers have been working on various versions of the SkyTote since 1998. The original vehicle was smaller with a design meant to deliver a 400-pound payload to a point within a 300-mile range in less than two hours. During the initial design phase, the vehicle was redesigned from the original 2-foot to an 8-foot vehicle to make it more realistic and usable for customers.

The new test vehicle was altered to carry a 50-pound payload within 150 nautical miles because researchers believed a medium-sized vehicle would be a more representative test of technology and would be directly useful to customers. Mr. Cord said these characteristics cannot be met by conventional helicopters and fixed-wing vehicles. Conventional helicopters with the same payload characteristics can only attain speeds between 100 and 105 knots, while the SkyTote, equipped with hover capabilities, can attain speeds of 200 knots.

The change in payload capabilities created a more realistic, mechanical system, rather than a simplified concept demonstrator. It also created more challenges for developers. "We had to choose a different type of engine, a 52-horsepower engine from UAV Engines, Ltd., a real engine that could be seen in a car almost," Mr. Cord said. "Our vehicle is 208 pounds, so we've grown significantly. We added a more complex transmission, too."

A more complex, heavier mechanical system also meant that developers had to look closely at the control aspects of the vehicle. "The reason for this is that excess power reduces the need for a carefully conceived flight control system and helps avoid several problem areas, such as loss of control. With less thrust-to-weight, we have to rely on the flight control system and the pilot to keep us out of dangerous flight conditions. Autonomous control gives us an advantage during testing because it provides safer, more efficient tests," Mr. Cord said.

During testing, SkyTote is expected to operate in hover and conventional wing-borne flight while also transitioning from hover to wing-borne and back. A pilot will be standing by to take control of the plane, if needed. However, most of the testing will be controlled autonomously. Developers say these transitions have to be done at least five times to demonstrate that SkyTote and its characteristics are a good concept and should be considered for future applications.

The next cycle of SkyTote testing will be conducted in June at Camp Roberts in California.
OK, good to know it is called SkyTote.

I would agree with you on "VD200 is not the first" if the SkyTote wasn't deserted by the researchers. I didn't try to say China has invented VTOL combatant drones. But if China is the first country to make it work and use it in military operation, as shown in my youtube clip, then the heading is holding.

AeroVironment SkyTote - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"As of August 2010, the SkyTote appears as a past product[2][3] on the company websites, not as a current.[4]"
 
OK, good to know it is called SkyTote.

I would agree with you on "VD200 is not the first" if the SkyTote wasn't deserted by the researchers. I didn't try to say China has invented VTOL combatant drones. But if China is the first country to make it work and use it in military operation, as shown in my youtube clip, then the heading is holding.

Agree. Btw, your youtube clip is illustration. Advise us whether VD-200 worked or not?
 
Agree. Btw, your youtube clip is illustration. Advise us whether VD-200 worked or not?
haha, even I knew I would dare to do so, I hate being invited for drinking tea by the Chinese security staffs.:nono:
 
haha, even I knew I would dare to do so, I hate being invited for drinking tea by the Chinese security staffs.:nono:

So all you know is the animation youtube clip of a UAV tailsitter?
How you know it would be a first of its class ?
the development could end somewhere, and nothing achieved. Who know ?
 
So all you know is the animation youtube clip of a UAV tailsitter?
How you know it would be a first of its class ?
the development could end somewhere, and nothing achieved. Who know ?
It was first appeared at Zhuhai Airshow China 2014, so it should tell you something.

That youtube video is from Chinese national TV channel covering the Chinese drone industry in Jan. If you knew how it is worked in China, then you wouldn't say what you were saying.
 
It was first appeared at Zhuhai Airshow China 2014, so it should tell you something.

That youtube video is from Chinese national TV channel covering the Chinese drone industry in Jan. If you knew how it is worked in China, then you wouldn't say what you were saying.

sorry, what was first appeared at Zhuhai Airshow?





 
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sorry, what was first appeared at Zhuhai Airshow?



China Shows Off Its Growing Drone Fleet | Popular Science
New Technology, Science News, The Future Now | Popular Sciencechina-shows-its-growing-drone-fleet
Nov 14, 2014 - While much of the buzz at the Zhuhai Air Show has been about new manned ... The 200kg VD-200 VTOL is another interesting Chinese UAV.


VD-200 VTOL Drone System Displayed by Chengdu Aircraft Design & Research Institute at The fifth UAS Conference & Exhibition 2014 is held from September 16 to 18.
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China Shows Off Its Growing Drone Fleet | Popular Science
New Technology, Science News, The Future Now | Popular Sciencechina-shows-its-growing-drone-fleet
Nov 14, 2014 - While much of the buzz at the Zhuhai Air Show has been about new manned ... The 200kg VD-200 VTOL is another interesting Chinese UAV.


VD-200 VTOL Drone System Displayed by Chengdu Aircraft Design & Research Institute at The fifth UAS Conference & Exhibition 2014 is held from September 16 to 18.
VD200%2BVTOL%2BDrone%2BSystem%2BDisplayed%2Bby%2BChengdu%2BAircraft%2BDesign%2B%26%2BResearch%2BInstitute.jpg

Yep. I believe it can fly. And ?
how it make transition to hover ?
 
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