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Our WS-2D that @pher mentioned is an example of rocket artillery, with a range of around 400 km.



So you are letting it go, out of the generosity of your heart? Is that how you view geopolitics?

And why do you open fire on your borders with Pakistan and Bangladesh, killing soldiers, cattle traders, and civilians alike?

If you could do the same on your border with China, you would.
yes but the thing ... There is no smuggling, terrorists activities in chinese boarder. ... don't talk crap... because we are not firing bullets. .. There is no fence in chinese boarder. .. what else you guys did.. just moved back to home...
 
As if Indian Army has never crossed the border or killed a single pakistani soldier ...... keep the chest thumping to yourself .

Lmao .. Really ? Haha
As for killing civilians your army is no saints ...... they have killed innocent civilians in the past also and still shell Indian villages .

Stop bullshitting .. Since last year we have killed many more indian soldiers than we lost(not a contest)... But we haven't killed a single civilians! Meanwhile almost 20 civilians have been killed on our side... We don't target civilians because it would weaken our stance (Kashmir is a disputed territory n firing at them would only place us in bad light)...

Shelling villages :

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We only reply by killin your soldiers.
 
As if you have the gutts to cross the Pakistan border? Accuse us of beheading indian troops "inside" indian held territory and more lip service...

Apart from firing at populated areas what else can india do ? Give befitting press statements ?
IA marched in Pakistan territory don't forget your history... can I post the our jawans pics outside police station. ..
 
yes but the thing ... There is no smuggling, terrorists activities in chinese boarder. ... don't talk crap... because we are not firing bullets. .. There is no fence in chinese boarder. .. what else you guys did.. just moved back to home...

Well India gives concessions so easily, when they should be defending their sovereignty:

Indian troops suspend patrols at Chumar - Times Of India

NEW DELHI: Apart from dismantling a SET of strategically-located bunkers at Chumar as part of an arrangement to end the standoff at Depsang Bulge in eastern Ladakh, the Indian troops seem to have suspended patrols to the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Chumar, at least for now. Senior officials briefed by personnel on the ground said the Army has discontinued the round-the clock patrolling it was undertaking in the area for the last few months.

Check out the post from the Turkish member on the first page.

Turkish members here are very anti-China due to the Uyghur issue, but even they can see the reality.
 
Anyway , Is their any poof that Chinese soldiers within 25KM?? @ chinese @ pak members? If yes show or else Keep Quite ....

Well India gives concessions so easily, when they should be defending their sovereignty:

Indian troops suspend patrols at Chumar - Times Of India



Check out the post from the Turkish member on the first page.

Turkish members here are very anti-China due to the Uyghur issue, but even they can see the reality.
these are News , not official , moreover ,news are made out of issues which are true or imaginary ..... are you one to Chumar to verify that ? or News Channels are ?
 
There are many Pakistanis who came to India for cricket and never went back. Also agree the equation with Pakistan is different. Drawing blood there is acceptable. We do not have much respect for each other.
Stop lying .. The one "missing" are these

Pakistan buries 'cricket fan' held in India | Toronto Star
The body was returned while we released the fat sob Kashmir singh for humanitarian crap.. Who later proudly told indian media tht he was a spy n Pakistan treated him well .. N tht your sarabjit singh was a terrorist..


Unlike Indians we don't kill innocent
 
Stop lying .. The one "missing" are these

Pakistan buries 'cricket fan' held in India | Toronto Star
The body was returned while we released the fat sob Kashmir singh for humanitarian crap.. Who later proudly told indian media tht he was a spy n Pakistan treated him well .. N tht your sarabjit singh was a terrorist..


Unlike Indians we don't kill innocent
BBC ON THIS DAY | 6 | 1965: Indian Army invades W Pakistan

Well India gives concessions so easily, when they should be defending their sovereignty:

Indian troops suspend patrols at Chumar - Times Of India



Check out the post from the Turkish member on the first page.

Turkish members here are very anti-China due to the Uyghur issue, but even they can see the reality.
well Indians never considered China as foe... do you think .. it is wrong? ?? do we need to treat China as enemy? ??? why you are trolling here...
 

And what happened next :

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The London Daily Mirror reported in 1965:

"There is a smell of death in the burning Pakistan sun. For it was here that India's attacking forces came to a dead stop.

"During the night they threw in every reinforcement they could find. But wave after wave of attacks were repulsed by the Pakistanis"

"India", said the London Daily Times, "is being soundly beaten by a nation which is outnumbered by four and a half to one in population and three to one in size of armed forces."


In Times reporter Louis Karrar wrote:

"Who can defeat a nation which knows how to play hide and seek with death".

USA - Aviation week & space technology - December 1968 issue.

"For the PAF, the 1965 war was as climatic as the Israeli victory over the Arabs in 1967. A further similarity was that Indian air power had an approximately 5:1 numerical superiority at the start of the conflict. Unlike the Middle East conflict, the Pakistani air victory was achieved to a large degree by air-to-air combat rather than on ground. But it was as absolute as that attained by Israel.
 
Lmao .. Really ? Haha

Ya ...Really haha

Stop bullshitting .. Since last year we have killed many more indian soldiers than we lost(not a contest)... But we haven't killed a single civilians! Meanwhile almost 20 civilians have been killed on our side... We don't target civilians because it would weaken our stance (Kashmir is a disputed territory n firing at them would only place us in bad light)...

Shelling villages :

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We only reply by killin your soldiers.

Pakistan Shelling Indian villages ..... so saint of you .

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well Indians never considered China as foe... do you think .. it is wrong? ?? do we need to treat China as enemy? ??? why you are trolling here...

I'm countering the trolling. But they have left, so I guess there is no point for me to stay on this thread. :toast_sign:
 
Stop lying .. The one "missing" are these

Pakistan buries 'cricket fan' held in India | Toronto Star
The body was returned while we released the fat sob Kashmir singh for humanitarian crap.. Who later proudly told indian media tht he was a spy n Pakistan treated him well .. N tht your sarabjit singh was a terrorist..


Unlike Indians we don't kill innocent

‘107 Pakistanis staying in India illegally’ - - DAWN.COM

This is just one link. I had read other links too where they claimed about 7000 of the cricket fans who arrived never left. Let me see if I can find those links.
 
And what happened next :

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Neutral assessments

There have been several neutral assessments of the losses incurred by both India and Pakistan during the war. Most of these assessments agree that India had the upper hand over Pakistan when ceasefire was declared. Some of the neutral assessments are mentioned below —

The war was militarily inconclusive; each side held prisoners and some territory belonging to the other. Losses were relatively heavy—on the Pakistani side, twenty aircraft, 200 tanks, and 3,800 troops. Pakistan's army had been able to withstand Indian pressure, but a continuation of the fighting would only have led to further losses and ultimate defeat for Pakistan. Most Pakistanis, schooled in the belief of their own martial prowess, refused to accept the possibility of their country's military defeat by "Hindu India" and were, instead, quick to blame their failure to attain their military aims on what they considered to be the ineptitude of Ayub Khan and his government.

  • TIME magazine reported that India held 690 mi2 of Pakistan territory while Pakistan held 250 mi2 of Indian territory in Kashmir and Rajasthan. Additionally, Pakistan had lost almost half its armour temporarily.[74] The article further elaborates,
Severely mauled by the larger Indian armed forces, Pakistan could continue the fight only by teaming up with Red China and turning its back on the U.N.

  • Devin T. Hagerty wrote in his book "South Asia in world politics"[75]
The invading Indian forces outfought their Pakistani counterparts and halted their attack on the outskirts of Lahore, Pakistan's second-largest city. By the time United Nations intervened on September 22, Pakistan had suffered a clear defeat.

  • In his book "National identity and geopolitical visions",[76] Gertjan Dijkink writes –
The superior Indian forces, however, won a decisive victory and the army could have even marched on into Pakistani territory had external pressure not forced both combatants to cease their war efforts.

In three weeks the second Indo-Pak War ended in what appeared to be a draw when the embargo placed by Washington on U.S. ammunition and replacements for both armies forced cessation of conflict before either side won a clear victory. India, however, was in a position to inflict grave damage to, if not capture, Pakistan's capital of the Punjab when the cease-fire was called, and controlled Kashmir's strategic Uri-Poonch bulge, much to Ayub's chagrin.

  • In his book titled The greater game: India's race with destiny and China, David Van Praagh wrote[7]
India won the war. It gained 1,840 km2 (710 sq mi) of Pakistani territory: 640 km2 (250 sq mi) in Azad Kashmir, Pakistan's portion of the state; 460 km2 (180 sq mi) of the Sailkot sector; 380 km2 (150 sq mi) far to the south of Sindh; and most critical, 360 km2 (140 sq mi) on the Lahore front. Pakistan took 540 km2 (210 sq mi) of Indian territory: 490 km2 (190 sq mi) in the Chhamb sector and 50 km2 (19 sq mi) around Khem Karan.

  • Dennis Kux's "India and the United States estranged democracies" also provides a summary of the war,[78]
Although both sides lost heavily in men and material, and neither gained a decisive military advantage, India had the better of the war. New Delhi achieved its basic goal of thwarting Pakistan's attempt to seize Kashmir by force. Pakistan gained nothing from a conflict which it had instigated.

  • BBC reported that the war served game changer in Pakistani politics,[79]
The defeat in the 1965 war led to the army's invincibility being challenged by an increasingly vocal opposition. This became a surge after his protege, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, deserted him and established the Pakistan People's Party.

  • "A region in turmoil: South Asian conflicts since 1947" by Robert Johnson mentions[8]
India's strategic aims were modest – it aimed to deny Pakistani Army victory, although it ended up in possession of 720 square miles (1,900 km2) of Pakistani territory for the loss of just 220 square miles (570 km2) of its own.

  • An excerpt from William M. Carpenter and David G. Wiencek's "Asian security handbook: terrorism and the new security environment"[80]
A brief but furious 1965 war with India began with a covert Pakistani thrust across the Kashmiri cease-fire line and ended up with the city of Lahore threatened with encirclement by Indian Army. Another UN-sponsored cease-fire left borders unchanged, but Pakistan's vulnerability had again been exposed.

  • English historian John Keay's "India: A History" provides a summary of the 1965 war[81]
The 1965 Indo-Pak war lasted barely a month. Pakistan made gains in the Rajasthan desert but its main push against India's Jammu-Srinagar road link was repulsed and Indian tanks advanced to within a sight of Lahore. Both sides claimed victory but India had most to celebrate.

  • Uk Heo and Shale Asher Horowitz write in their book "Conflict in Asia: Korea, China-Taiwan, and India-Pakistan"[82]
Again India appeared, logistically at least, to be in a superior position but neither side was able to mobilize enough strength to gain a decisive victory.

Well India gives concessions so easily, when they should be defending their sovereignty:

Indian troops suspend patrols at Chumar - Times Of India



Check out the post from the Turkish member on the first page.

Turkish members here are very anti-China due to the Uyghur issue, but even they can see the reality.


Chinese posting fake news ....again ,again ,again ...... :lol:
 
Chinese posting fake news ....again ,again ,again ...... :lol:

Someone is lying, either your Army or your Media. Since they are selling two contradictory stories (and the media is quoting Army sources too).

The only thing we know for sure, is India never responded to the incursions. Or else we would be at war right now.
 
Someone is lying, either your Army or your Media. Since they are selling two contradictory stories (and the media is quoting Army sources too).

The only thing we know for sure, is India never responded to the incursions. Or else we would be at war right now.

It's usually the media sensationalism .

We responded , when the PLA sees the ITBP itself , they usually run back .

When you run back ,how can their be war .
 
It's usually the media sensationalism .

We responded , when the PLA sees the ITBP itself , they usually run back .

When you run back ,how can their be war .

Read it:

Desperate Indians trying to change the topic...:lol:

Some foreign country raped your sovereignity, let's talk about that. :D
 

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