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Looks like YJ-18.

 

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Looks like YJ-18.

YJ-12

 

[serenity]

Nice photo of YJ-12. Already not the best Chinese antiship missile and already better than Brahmos and Yakhont. Russia offered Yakhont/ Onyx type missile in 00s but China turned it down. Maybe it is very impressive or just improvement over Moskit but not enough to buy. Instead PLAN just improved Moskit idea of rocket then ramjet for solid fuel rocket boost followed by liquid fuel ramjet flight that allows missile to change throttle and speed. This happened concurrently while real next generation is being developed which according to close sources say started late 90s already. Now they have much longer ranges than these 200km missiles and even higher speeds. Antiship ballistic missile they think should work well but very expensive for effectiveness that these next gen can almost replicate while untested as well but more method means better chances than less means. China's development is from worrying that USA will start a war before 2020 and keeping the navy far away we need better range, speed, variety and launching platform. YJ-12 and YJ-18 seem new but have been around for many years already and they are stopgaps for next generation antiship missiles. All concentrated around mission to sink carriers. Submarines are much harder problem to solve and so far nothing promising. Only thing keeping USA away is nuclear warheads. Some biological and chemical weapons are even scarier and more effective in stopping USA than China's entire thermonuclear + neutron bomb stockpile. That's already old toys. Old but effective. Chinese leaders are worried that USA won't fight conventional war with China but just straight away do first strike without warning. So a lot of energy and money being spent on making sure there's enough warning for China to make sure they take USA to hell before we get hit. That's USA's best plan so far but I don't know if they can disable all detection sites. They have experimented with different ways of disabling China and some sources claim USA's final plan is just to destroy China completely after making up good excuses. Their media already doing that job.

China's life at this moment is very threatened by USA. China has no way or point to kill USA but opposite is not true. I still don't understand why Chinese leaders don't just give all major weapon secrets to Iran, North Korea, Pakistan and any country against USA. Don't give away all the top secrets but just give them best hydrogen bomb weapons and some other WMD as life insurance. This way if USA kills China suddenly in one shot, they have to deal with other guys who can maybe retaliate and also this gives them more headache and need to spend resources on solving those problems. USA sells good weapons to Taiwan, Japan and is happy to supply India who is their new best friend against China. Indians are happy to play this part because they hate Chinese and Communists. This will give China enough time to improve more and hopefully make sure USA will never be able to kill China without being killed 100%. Right now it's still a maybe.

 

[Beast]

Nice photo of YJ-12. Already not the best Chinese antiship missile and already better than Brahmos and Yakhont. Russia offered Yakhont/ Onyx type missile in 00s but China turned it down. Maybe it is very impressive or just improvement over Moskit but not enough to buy. Instead PLAN just improved Moskit idea of rocket then ramjet for solid fuel rocket boost followed by liquid fuel ramjet flight that allows missile to change throttle and speed. This happened concurrently while real next generation is being developed which according to close sources say started late 90s already. Now they have much longer ranges than these 200km missiles and even higher speeds. Antiship ballistic missile they think should work well but very expensive for effectiveness that these next gen can almost replicate while untested as well but more method means better chances than less means. China's development is from worrying that USA will start a war before 2020 and keeping the navy far away we need better range, speed, variety and launching platform. YJ-12 and YJ-18 seem new but have been around for many years already and they are stopgaps for next generation antiship missiles. All concentrated around mission to sink carriers. Submarines are much harder problem to solve and so far nothing promising. Only thing keeping USA away is nuclear warheads. Some biological and chemical weapons are even scarier and more effective in stopping USA than China's entire thermonuclear + neutron bomb stockpile. That's already old toys. Old but effective. Chinese leaders are worried that USA won't fight conventional war with China but just straight away do first strike without warning. So a lot of energy and money being spent on making sure there's enough warning for China to make sure they take USA to hell before we get hit. That's USA's best plan so far but I don't know if they can disable all detection sites. They have experimented with different ways of disabling China and some sources claim USA's final plan is just to destroy China completely after making up good excuses. Their media already doing that job.

China's life at this moment is very threatened by USA. China has no way or point to kill USA but opposite is not true. I still don't understand why Chinese leaders don't just give all major weapon secrets to Iran, North Korea, Pakistan and any country against USA. Don't give away all the top secrets but just give them best hydrogen bomb weapons and some other WMD as life insurance. This way if USA kills China suddenly in one shot, they have to deal with other guys who can maybe retaliate and also this gives them more headache and need to spend resources on solving those problems. USA sells good weapons to Taiwan, Japan and is happy to supply India who is their new best friend against China. Indians are happy to play this part because they hate Chinese and Communists. This will give China enough time to improve more and hopefully make sure USA will never be able to kill China without being killed 100%. Right now it's still a maybe.

American only dare to take on small countries. The chances of American going to start a war with China is very low. American congress despite being very aggressive are still rule by sounded headed people who do not wish to see the end of world. China is a country with proven 3 mega ton miniature nuke warhead. Same as USA and Russia that has never started war with each other.

 

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The BP-12B can also be used as an anti-ship ballistic missile, making it one of three systems of the ASBM category at this year's Zhuhai airshow. The other two systems are the CM-401 and A/MGG-20B (aka M-20B).

 

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The export versions of HQ-9B and HQ-16B

 

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The video of FD-41: https://m.weibo.cn/3181052590/4304428431153966

 

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Good question. I think to deliver Chinese green tea at a distance quickly while it is still hot.