Chinese Missiles News & Discussions

[Deino]

KD-20A？

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IMO a reasonable successor to the KD-63 !

 

[Zarvan]

While images first appeared on Chinese webpages in 2013, China identified its DF-31AG ICBM in late July and featured 16 in its 30 July military parade marking the 90th anniversary of the People's Liberation Army. Source: CCTV
Key Points

• Chinese media have suggested that China's DF-31AG ICBM could be armed with MIRV warheads
• The DF-31AG uses a 16-wheel road-capable TEL, widening its deployment options and thus increasing its survivability

While official Chinese sources have said almost nothing about the capabilities of the recently identified DF-31AG intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), Chinese state media have in recent days offered indications that it might be armed with multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicle (MIRV) warheads.

An aft image of the DF-31AG ICBM shows the use of a prominent pad at the base of the cold-launch missile tube, also used by the new DF-26 intermediate-range ballistic missile. (Via Meyet.com)

Although images of this missile first appeared on Chinese webpages in mid-2013, it was not until its mid-July appearance in model form at a new exhibit at Beijing’s Military Museum of the Chinese People’s Revolution that a new variant of the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC) DF-31A was identified as the ‘DF-31AG’.

Then, on 30 July, 16 DF-31AGs appeared in a major military parade marking the 90th Anniversary of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA). Its appearance in such a parade would indicate that the DF-31AG has entered service with the PLA Rocket Forces.

Previously this ICBM was identified as the ‘DF-31B’ by US government sources in a 2 October 2015 article in the Washington Free Beacon , which also reported that the DF-31B had been tested on 25 September 2015.

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http://www.janes.com/article/72971/...-multiple-warheads-claims-china-s-state-media

 

[Zarvan]

An image appearing on the PLAAF-affiliated 'Blue Sky' website showing a Xian H-6K bomber being loaded with two KD-20 LACMs with nose covers: an indication it uses an optical seeker. Source: Blue Sky web page

Key Points

• China may have developed a new optically guided version of the KD-20 land attack cruise missile
• Such a weapon would allow aircraft like the H-6K bomber to conduct attacks from greater stand-off ranges

An image appearing on a People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF)-linked webpage suggests that China has developed a new optical precision-guided version of the China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC) CJ-10K/KD-20 land attack cruise missile (LACM).

In mid-July the 'Blue Sky' web page, sponsored by the Society of the People's Liberation Army Air Force, featured an image of a Xian Aircraft Corporation H-6K bomber being loaded with two KD-20 and two YJ-63/KD-63 LACMs in which the KD-20s appear to have a protective cover partially covering their nose. This feature is used on some missiles to protect their optical or infrared (IR) seeker windows while in storage or being loaded.

The PLAAF's possible use of a new terminally guided version of the KD-20, perhaps designated the KD-20A, was first suggested by PLAAF analyst Hui Tong in his English- and Chinese-language blogs. He has also noted that as early as 2013, the PLAAF had upgraded the original 180-200 km-range KD-63 TV-based terminal guidance system with a model based on an imaging IR (IIR) seeker.

For guidance, the KD-20 – which is estimated to have a range of 1,500 km – has previously been reported to use an inertial navigation system (INS) aided by a terrain-contour-mapping radar altimeter, and possibly a global navigation satellite system (GNSS). An IIR-seeker-equipped KD-20 could enable the H-6K to conduct strikes from beyond the range of most ground-based air defences.

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http://www.janes.com/article/73028/...recision-guided-version-of-china-s-kd-20-lacm

 

[SingaporeGuy]

Wow chinese tomahawk cruise missile and its 5 times the range of brahmos

 

[Deino]

Wow chinese tomahawk cruise missile and its 5 times the range of brahmos

No need to compare with brahmos, it's a very different weapon. You also would not compare it to an AAM.

 

[yusheng]

【无码东风十】这应该是史上最清晰的东风10巡航导弹发射照。科老师例行解毒：弹头下面的圆形口盖，是等高线地形匹配制导系统的雷达天线口，据悉东风10的巡航段采用采用等高线匹配进行超低空飞行，雷达每隔几十秒测得地形高度数据，与蛋载计算机存储的数字地图相匹配，调整导弹巡航姿态。
东风10的弹头为陶瓷雷达天线罩，采用雷达图像区域相关末制导。也可采用光学图像末制导。
蛋体中后部下方的开口，为埋入式进气道，这种进气道可以减少蛋体尺寸，有利于隐身，但进气效率较低。
东风10采用中置平直蛋翼，平时收入蛋体内，藏于邮箱中间，发射后弹出，锁定。这照片是导弹刚刚发射，蛋翼尚未弹出。
后部为助推器，用于将导弹射出包装筒，加速到涡扇发动机启动。东风10的助推器与鹰击62反舰导弹的极为相似，可能是通用设计。

这个照片是老式的东风10，已经装备十几年了。目前最新型号是东风10A，可能使用了北斗卫星导航，以及红外热成像末制导。

http://weibo.wbdacdn.com/user/1403915120/#utm_source=ifvisible

This should be the clearest of the df-10 cruise missiles in history.Teachers in detoxification routine: a circular warhead under the flap, is a terrain contour matching guidance system of the radar antenna, the dongfeng 10 cruise flight by using contour matching in a low-level, radar measured terrain height data every few seconds, and egg storage of digital map matching, cruising missile attitude adjustment.The warhead of dongfeng 10 is ceramic radar antenna cover, and the terminal guidance of radar image area is adopted.Optical image terminal guidance can also be used.The opening in the lower part of the egg body is an embedded intake channel, which can reduce the size of the egg body and facilitate stealth, but the intake efficiency is low.The east wind 10 adopts the straight egg wing, which is hidden in the middle of the mailbox and is locked in the middle of the mailbox.This picture is a missile just launched, and the egg wing has not yet popped up.The rear is a booster that can be used to fire the missile out of the packaging cylinder to the turbofan engine.The dongfeng 10 booster is very similar to the falcon 62 anti-ship missile, possibly universal design.The picture is of the old east wind 10, which has been equipped for more than ten years.The latest model is dongfeng 10A, which may use the beidou satellite navigation and infrared thermal imaging terminal guidance.

 

[Suff Shikan]

Images indicate possible precision-guided version of China's KD-20 LACM
Neil Gibson and Richard D Fisher Jr - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
10 August 2017

An image appearing on the PLAAF-affiliated 'Blue Sky' website showing a Xian H-6K bomber being loaded with two KD-20 LACMs with nose covers: an indication it uses an optical seeker. Source: Blue Sky web page
Key Points

• China may have developed a new optically guided version of the KD-20 land attack cruise missile
• Such a weapon would allow aircraft like the H-6K bomber to conduct attacks from greater stand-off ranges

An image appearing on a People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF)-linked webpage suggests that China has developed a new optical precision-guided version of the China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC) CJ-10K/KD-20 land attack cruise missile (LACM).

In mid-July the 'Blue Sky' web page, sponsored by the Society of the People's Liberation Army Air Force, featured an image of a Xian Aircraft Corporation H-6K bomber being loaded with two KD-20 and two YJ-63/KD-63 LACMs in which the KD-20s appear to have a protective cover partially covering their nose. This feature is used on some missiles to protect their optical or infrared (IR) seeker windows while in storage or being loaded.

The PLAAF's possible use of a new terminally guided version of the KD-20, perhaps designated the KD-20A, was first suggested by PLAAF analyst Hui Tong in his English- and Chinese-language blogs. He has also noted that as early as 2013, the PLAAF had upgraded the original 180-200 km-range KD-63 TV-based terminal guidance system with a model based on an imaging IR (IIR) seeker.

For guidance, the KD-20 – which is estimated to have a range of 1,500 km – has previously been reported to use an inertial navigation system (INS) aided by a terrain-contour-mapping radar altimeter, and possibly a global navigation satellite system (GNSS). An IIR-seeker-equipped KD-20 could enable the H-6K to conduct strikes from beyond the range of most ground-based air defences.

 

[zestokryl]

Chinese HJ 11 laser guided ATGM :http://imp-navigator.livejournal.com/649944.html

Author claims there are no known system technical parameters published

@cirr is that true ?

 

[Brainsucker]

No need to compare with brahmos, it's a very different weapon. You also would not compare it to an AAM.

Wait Deino, if brasmos is not an LACM too, why India place it to Sikkim? I know that it is a AShM, but seems also an LACM because of what India suggested in China - India current crisis. Unless that news about Brasmos in the border was a hoax news, or India doesn't understand that AShM is not an LACM.

 

[ozranger]

Wait Deino, if brasmos is not an LACM too, why India place it to Sikkim? I know that it is a AShM, but seems also an LACM because of what India suggested in China - India current crisis. Unless that news about Brasmos in the border was a hoax news, or India doesn't understand that AShM is not an LACM.

There seems to be no credible information on any technical support build-up for land attacking to Brasmos yet. Also, Brasmos is a supersonic missile, right? Do you think it can fly low with terrain following? If it can, how much distance you think it can fly with its current size and corresponding fuel capacity until hitting the target? If it can't, for a high flying, supersonic missile which is still well below the so called hypersonic regime, how hard would it be intercepted by SAMs such as S-300 or HQ-9 ?

So, unless the Brasmos is used on anti-ship mission, there is little tactical significance using it for land attacking.

 

[Zarvan]

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Aug 20, 2017
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Chinese state media has released video footage demonstrating the production line of the short-range surface-to-air missile system.

Released in August, the footage shows the first high-quality images of a new production facility for the manufacturing of the HQ-17 all-weather low to medium altitude, short-range surface-to-air missile system in the country’s northern region of Inner Mongolia.

The HQ-17 is a Chinese development of the Russia-made Tor-M1 system with multiple improvements. Unlike the Tor system, the HQ-17 incorporates an IFF array on top of an electronically scanned array radar, modernized electronics, a new all-terrain launcher, and the ability to datalink with other Chinese systems.

The HQ-17 missile system is designed to protect frontline units like tank battalions against helicopters, cruise missiles, precision guided munitions, unmanned aerial vehicles.

http://defence-blog.com/news/china-releases-footage-of-hq-17s-production-line.html

 

[帅的一匹]

HJ12-ER

 

[yantong1980]

The HQ-17 missile system is designed to protect frontline units like tank battalions against helicopters, cruise missiles, precision guided munitions, unmanned aerial vehicles.

Sorry if I was wrong, IMO HQ-17 task was provide air-defence to fixed unit like air base not moving unit like tanks, for task like protect tank in battle against chopper or armed drones, better use SPAAG's that moving with battle tank group.

 

[Hindustani78]

https://sputniknews.com/military/201708191056602562-china-new-icbm-deterrence/

China is developing a new sea-based intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), the Julang-3 (JL-3), according to local media.

The development of the JL-3 missile was initially reported on several years ago. It’s expected that the new missile will be part of the advanced nuclear-powered submarine project 096.

Earlier this month, Chinese websites published pictures showing the project 032 submarine, the world’s largest conventionally powered submarine, undergoing tests. The submarine underwent re-fitting work at a shipyard in Dalian. In Dalian, the submarine received new silos capable of housing a larger missile.

Currently, the Navy of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) has four 094/094G project nuclear-powered missile submarines. They carry the JL-2 missile. This is the first fully operational maritime component of the Chinese nuclear triad.

Vasily Kashin, a military expert and senior research fellow at the Institute for Far Eastern Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences, spoke to Sputnik about the possible role of the JL-3 missile for China’s strategic interests.

Kashin underscored that the development of the new ICBM is dictated by the fact that current Chinese potential for nuclear deterrence is insufficient.

"Despite the fact that the JL-2 has a relatively decent operational range (7,400-8,000 km, according to different sources), its capability to deter the United States is limited. China’s nuclear submarines operate in the South China Sea. At the same time, they are likely to face problems while leaving China’s territorial waters due to the activities of the US and Japanese naval forces," Kashin told Sputnik China.

According to Kashin, the JL-2 missile would be unable to reach the continental US in the event of a military conflict.

"They could be used against US allies and American bases in Asia, but their role in deterrence is minor. In order to boost its sea-based strategic nuclear forces, China needs a missile with a range of 11,000-13,000 kilometers, preferably with a multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle," Kashin pointed out.

At the time, the JL-2 underwent a long and challenging series of tests, with a number of failures and delays. One of the failures nearly resulted in the destruction of the testing submarine. The problem was resolved only in 2012.

At the same time, Kashin suggested that the development of the JL-3 missile will be much less troubled.

"The difference between the JL-3 and JL-2 are not as major as that between the JL-2 and the JL-1, China’s first submarine-based ballistic missile. China will use its experience in missile development to avoid repeating its previous mistakes and speed up the creation of a new missile," Kashin concluded.

 

[lcloo]

Sorry if I was wrong, IMO HQ-17 task was provide air-defence to fixed unit like air base not moving unit like tanks, for task like protect tank in battle against chopper or armed drones, better use SPAAG's that moving with battle tank group.

A moving army needs as much multi-layers air defence as much as a fixed military facilities. SPAAGs provide short range air defence and is really useless against high speed targets like incoming missiles or high flying aircraft.

HQ-17 is a 12KM range missile system mounted on track vehicles.