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Chinese makers of shoddy goods rarely face U.S. sanctions

The recall numbers say more about the American companies that are doing business in China than the manufacturers, as I said, they control the quality.

Sorry I didn't see the link, but after I read it, you still can't say apple parts are made in Korea. Even in the article says most of the electronic parts are made in Korea and Taiwan. And I know that the exterior and the glass screen which you will have most contact with are made in China.

I didn't post the the link because it's in Chinese, since you ask for it, sure
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chinese links through state controlled media doing a CYA. I'll pass...

this they control quality" spin is just a spin. India buys military equipment from the US- they dont control the quality, they expect it to be good. US buys other items from other countries - the same toy manufacture when they buy another toy from another country does not get recalled for lead paint only the ones out of china. Tell me if the US gets faulted for the quality- then why did your own govt ban lead paint in china being used in toys going to the US? Hasbro had no idea that paint had lead in it..

better yet- check this out

Chinese authorities said Wednesday they are launching a consumer product safety investigation after 10,000 tubes of toothpaste made in China were withdrawn from the marketplace in the Dominican Republic.

Officials in the Dominican Republic on Tuesday issued a recall of Excel and Mr. Cool toothpaste after learning the products contained diethylene glycol, a chemical used in antifreeze and brake fluid.

Panama also pulled the toothpaste from store shelves last week but noted that the levels of diethylene glycol did not pose a health risk.

On Wednesday, the company that exported the toothpaste said the product is safe, noting that diethylene glycol has been cleared for use in China. The chemical is used for its thickening properties.

yes you make the glass screen and not the working parts...Glass screen that people buy a protective cover as an additional buy because it cracks easily
 
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Don't shop at Dollar Stores. This simple act will save anyone a lot of aches.
 
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I make my judement just like any cautious person makes one. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck - it is a duck.

And that's the problem of your kind, everything is just on the surface, the fact is, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck - it doesn't necessarily make it a duck!

This is a professional's letter to CBC about this issue, too bad I can't find the original version, but here's a translation for you.


"As a full-time engineer, I have been in manufacturing and consulting work for half a century, to understand the real situation is: To remain competitive, people are constantly looking for low-cost suppliers. Before selling a product in the following series of steps to go:

Buyer to the supplier to provide specific production requirements of a product's specifications;

Suppliers to quote according to specifications;

Before the mass, buyers also receive a sample, confirm that they meet all specifications. If lead is an important standard, buyers must be related to the test;

Any responsible buyer should be clear what is necessary to conduct the testing process, different testing may lead to different results. Buyers and suppliers must be agreement on what tests;

Only samples meet all the conditions, buyers will be required under the order of production, then suppliers will be shipping the product to buyers at;

The entire transaction process, buyers will be sampled from each batch of goods inspection to see if meet the requirements. To determine the goods consistent with the requirements of buyers, the proportion of the sample statistics are detailed provisions, the proportion of general and bulk sampling directly linked. Of course testing standards must be adopted for both sides agree.

If Fisher-Price's recall of one million "Made in China" toys that make a clear neglect of the company signed a contract with the supplier should be carried out during the relevant procedures. Board who should be playing in the United States and Thailand, for the pursuit of high profits is that they ignore consumer protection, while the "bad toys" to market. Large-scale dealers in North America, playing the board manufacturer in China who is the easiest. But for the mass consumers, this is misleading. Such failure is intentional or reported for naive slightly different. Therefore, CBC as a responsible, fair and accurate reporting of the media, should have the responsibility to clarify the matter."

"India buys military equipment from the US- they dont control the quality, they expect it to be good. US buys other items from other countries - the same toy manufacture when they buy another toy from another country does not get recalled for lead paint only the ones out of china. Tell me if the US gets faulted for the quality- then why did your own govt ban lead paint in china being used in toys going to the US? Hasbro had no idea that paint had lead in it.."

lol wow, Yes you are right, I am sure that India never do quality control on their military import.
They didn't ban it, they just ask to limit the lead in paint to fit the USregulation which have been changing.
"For manufacturers, the CPSC instituted the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008 which changed the regulations on lead content of paint from 0.06% (w/w) to 0.009%, or 90ppm, on August 14, 2009."

Lead paint - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Read the letter, and you will know there is no way Hasbro had no idea.

The big companies just spin it using Chinese manufacturing as an Escape Goat, and simple-minded people like you just eat it up.

And the glass screen, btw also designed by foreign company and made at their requirements. Oh, the protection case on the other hand is more likely to be entirely made in China.
 
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America does not put sanctions on us for the currency issues, or the shoddy products issues. :lol:

They have time and time again refused to officially label us as currency manipulators, hence no sanctions. One or two senators doesn't change the final result.

They are allowing it to happen, by not trying to stop it.

It's not as if we force anyone to buy our products. It is American corporations who buy them in bulk and get them shipped over there.

Don't like it? Then don't buy it.

Want sanctions? Then do it.

You said it right , Not just USA or the West ... the whole world buys your product because you can make it so cheap and in bulk , USA cant even dream of making these products at such low rates back on their country due to obvious reasons ,... so they have no right to crib and complain ...
 
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that's just not true.

Chinese products are awesome. Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet is the most amazing one I find lately, compared to it I would say Apple iPad is like garbage (iPad is made in China too, sadly).

Now Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet already one the best seller in Japan.


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Now you want to change the semantics behind being a duck. FINE !Oh its not a Duck - because if you get it from china- the parts fall off, lead paint strips off and reveals it self to be a doughnut :)

You are showing me some letter that is the defendants explanation , one sided chinese claim... the fact is you can't explain away why your govt banned lead in paint after this episode- why if it was accepted practice did they ban it? You can't explain away why only chinese made products had lead paint other toys from other countries did not. you can't explain the fact why panama sent back toothpaste with dangerous chemicals after they discovered it from only chinese companies producing it...

you just can't handle the truth ---

Maybe your guys who got caught on the tainted milk scandal could use you as the attroney with that great defense line "that was Chinese govt quality control issue and not the manufactures fault"- and as such they should all go free!
 
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paper writing is awesome, iPad is really bad in this regard too.
 
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Now you want to change the semantics behind being a duck. FINE !Oh its not a Duck - because if you get it from china- the parts fall off, lead paint strips off and reveals it self to be a doughnut :)

You are showing me some letter that is the defendants explanation , one sided chinese claim... the fact is you can't explain away why your govt banned lead in paint after this episode- why if it was accepted practice did they ban it? You can't explain away why only chinese made products had lead paint other toys from other countries did not. you can't explain the fact why panama sent back toothpaste with dangerous chemicals after they discovered it from only chinese companies producing it...

you just can't handle the truth ---

Maybe your guys who got caught on the tainted milk scandal could use you as the attroney with that great defense line "that was Chinese govt quality control issue and not the manufactures fault"- and as such they should all go free!

I'll leave to listen to the words of your own govt

 
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Now you want to change the semantics behind being a duck. FINE !Oh its not Duck - because if you get from china the parts fall off , lead paint strips of and reveals it self to be a doughnut :)

You are showing me some letter that is the defendants explanation , one sided chinese claim... the fact is you can't explain away why your govt banned lead in paint after this episode- why if it was accepted practice did they ban it? You can't explain away why only chinese made products had lead paint other toys from other countries did not. you can't explain the fact why panama sent back toothpaste with dangerous chemicals after they discovered it from only chinese companies producing it...

you just can't handle the truth ---

Maybe your guys who got caught on the tainted milk scandal could use you as the attroney with that " that was Chinese govt quality control issue" and not the manufactures fault they should all go free!

lol, don't be mad when your faulty logic got caught, learn to make some much more intelligent arguments next time.
I thought your post already explained the other side of story pretty good, what, you already let it out of your mind?
It is up to others to judge, neither you or me now.
Frankly toothpaste is the same thing with other things. I never said you won't find any product defection from made in China product, and again it's American company imported it, it doesn't change my point.

I can handle the truth pretty well, can you?
 
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lol, don't be mad when your faulty logic got caught, learn to make some much more intelligent arguments next time.
I thought your post already explained the other side of story pretty good, what, you already let it out of your mind?
It is up to others to judge, neither you or me now.
Frankly toothpaste is the same thing with other things. I never said you won't find any product defection from made in China product, and again it's American company imported it, it doesn't change my point.

I can handle the truth pretty well, can you?

all you have done in the argument is show ' its not us its them"( based on a defendant's letter LOL) while your govt clearly said its your chinese companies. Infact the last link I provided ( which I'm sure you did not read again) confirms it.

Btw the toothpaste was NOT just recalled from the US . I again gave you a quote from two other countries that recalled it. You see its everyones fault not your great shoddy companies...sure thing. There are 10's of links online discussing this( again what your own govt has cop'ed to) -but all you have is the defendants letter ( LOL) . Well atleast I got you chinese to disgaree with your govt this one time - :D for someone who never reads before he speaks it funny to throw words like " come w/ intelligent arguments"

China has pledged to hold people more accountable for their actions following a string of scandals involving everything from food safety to fakes.

China's State Council, or cabinet, said business fraud, the sale of fake products and "improper academic behaviour" persisted, despite government efforts to eliminate them, and were posing major problems for Chinese society.

"The people are very displeased," said a statement released late Wednesday after a cabinet meeting presided over by Premier Wen Jiabao.

The State Council called on government at all levels to build what it called a "social accountability system" to ensure that people were protected and the dishonest were punished.

This would include keeping records of poor performance in areas such as product quality, food and drug safety and academic research, it said.

Many Chinese people are angry about what they see as the government's failure to tackle those behind persistent problems, including the food safety scandals that have become a regular feature of life.China has suffered a series of such scandals in recent years, from toxic milk to dyed buns.

And in May, the country's top court ordered that capital punishment be used for food safety crimes that result in deaths.

The country is also home to the biggest counterfeit market in the world, despite repeated government pledges to root out fake goods.
 
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all you have done in the argument is show ' its not us its them"( based on a defendant's letter LOL) while your govt clearly said its your chinese companies. Infact the last link I provided ( which I'm sure you did not read again) confirms it.

Btw the toothpaste was NOT just recalled from the US . I again gave you a quote from two other countries that recalled it. You see its everyones fault not your great shoddy companies...sure thing. There are 10's of links online discussing this( again what your own govt has cop'ed to) -but all you have is the defendants letter ( LOL) . Well atleast I got you chinese to disgaree with your govt this one time - :D for someone who never reads before he speaks it funny to throw words like " come w/ intelligent arguments"

lol, now you are back.
my arguments are based on both logic and facts, since it's too hard for you too see or understand, I understand your simple understanding of, any complex issue.
I also said "I never said you won't find any product defection from made in China product" didn't I?
Try to find more problem with Chinese product sure you can, but still, it doesn't change American companies' role in it. The letter was from an Canadian engineer who worked in the field. He gave the facts of how the import business works then gave his opinion, but looks like you are having problem differentiate facts and opinions
Not that I am throwing things about basic logic aground , it's because you are not doing any. You can't think by yourself for a sec but to believe whatever you hear on the media.
 
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