Chinese Flanker Family: J-11, J-16 ... Su-27SK/UBK, Su-30MKK

[TaimiKhan]

A reality check is in place as,
At one time Pakistan was even denying acquiring the A-5s from China.
The Dilemma of the Russian engines was also rumored with the JF-17 project however with the current economical melt down despite Indian objections the Russians are said to have obliged.
Anyways, the following was reason for my assertion.

Their have been rumors in circulation within naval circles (one of which is my source) that Pakistan is very closely looking at procuring the J-11 for the Naval aviation arm. This would be a major boost to the Pakistani navy's range of operations and capability, since the chinese flanker could carry upto 4-5 ASM. The russian connection for the engines has already been delt with and the russians have cleared orders.

Well lets see then, if it happens 2 Sqds atleast would be a big boost for the defence of maritime boundaries.

 

[DaRk WaVe]

 

[brahmastra]

copy of sukhoi-30?

 

[TaimiKhan]

copy of sukhoi-30?

Su-27 basically, Su-30 has canards which are absent in J-11s.

And J-11BS is the tandem eat version of Su-27.

China had local assembly contract for Su-27s not Su-30.

 

[araz]

Well lets see then, if it happens 2 Sqds atleast would be a big boost for the defence of maritime boundaries.

A thing that people are not realizing is that with WS10A J11 if cleared for export becomes a manageable option for PAF. We will always go for J10s, but as wind jammer said a couple of squadrons of J11 would be the icing on the cake. By the way this is not the first time this rumour has been circulated
Araz

 

[Kompromat]

A thing that people are not realizing is that with WS10A J11 if cleared for export becomes a manageable option for PAF. We will always go for J10s, but as wind jammer said a couple of squadrons of J11 would be the icing on the cake. By the way this is not the first time this rumour has been circulated
Araz

Man this thing looks kikazzz

Go China go

 

[grey boy 2]

How do you tell externally whether an aircraft is a Variant A or B?

The J-11B aircraft are typically painted in different camouflage to the J-11A, with a medium blue grey upper surface, light grey lower surface, black radome, while the half ellipse grey area on the nose is overpainted with uniform camouflage

Known differences include:

A Chinese IRST set located in the centreline position as with the OLS-27 in early Su-27S.

A planar array multimode radar which resembles the Phazotron Zhuk-27 series. It includes an IFF interrogator array.

An Onboard Oxygen Generator System (OBOGS). Only the most recent Russian variants have an OBOGS.

A unique glass cockpit design, with an asymmetric layout quite different from the Su-30MKK/MK2 and Su-27SMK.

An optical MAWS system claimed to operate in the UV band.

Dielectric panels on the stabilators not seen on any Russian variant.

The differences between the J-11B, Su-27SK and Su-27SMK are sufficiently great that this must be considered a unique offshoot of the Flanker family of fighters, not a subtype of the baseline Su-27SK/J-11A.

Shenyang J-11B Sino-Flanker

 

[Fennecus]

Engines remain the biggest obstacle for us, but once that hurdle is crossed, a number of new options will open for both the PLAAF and PAF alike. (That will include the WZ-10)

 

[brahmastra]

Su-27 basically, Su-30 has canards which are absent in J-11s.

And J-11BS is the tandem eat version of Su-27.

China had local assembly contract for Su-27s not Su-30.

can you please tell what are the difference between russian su-27 and chinese j-11?

 

[grey boy 2]

can you please tell what are the difference between russian su-27 and chinese j-11?

PLAAF and PLA Navy Su-27, Su-30MKK and J-11 Inventory - SinoDefence.com

 

[oct605032048]

can you please tell what are the difference between russian su-27 and chinese j-11?

The latter is lighter and equipped with better radar systems and 2 WS10s.

 

[xukxuk]

不是自己家的孩子 再好看 也看着别扭
not your own baby
even looks better
still feels uncomfortable

 

[oct605032048]

totally agree with the own child theory.

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Su-27 basically, Su-30 has canards which are absent in J-11s.

And J-11BS is the tandem eat version of Su-27.

China had local assembly contract for Su-27s not Su-30.

not really, Su-30 has got its Variants like Su-30 MKI & su-30 MKM which have canards where as other variants like Su-30 MK & the Chinese SU-30 MKK have got no canards

SU-30 MK​

SU-30 MKI​

SU-30 MKM​

and there is Difference in Shape b/w Su-27 & SU-30(with or without canards)
here in this picture, the upper one is Su-30 while lower is Su-27...



but when we come down to Su-35 & its varients some are like Su-30 & some like Su-27
su-35 UB

su-35 bm

 

[unicorn148]

J11 would have been an easy and tit for tat answer for SU30 MKI, i wonder why PAF didn't go for it?

May be due to export restrictions by russia, but even then, if chinese would have granted PAF access to J11 it'd have helped PAF alot to understand the strengths and weaknesses of Indian SU30 MKI.

God knows whats going through PAF minds.

dont day dream su 30 mki is far better than j11 .why do you think china is buying su 30 mkk because is more capable than J11 and every one knows that su30 mki is superior than so30 mkk