Chinese firm bows out of coal-based power project

[Kal Muah]

Maybe the tide is turning there too, many I know in Karachi just want a better life and stop all this conflict but some vested interests are preventing ties getting close. We all know what happened when NS met Modi in Lahore and soon after boom attack

I dont want NS to stay in power, that guy can change pakistans future, he is a underdog, he knows pakistans future lies in economy and he is hell bent on doing it.

 

[Dr Gupta]

I dont want NS to stay in power, that guy can change pakistans future, he is a underdog, he knows pakistans future lies in economy and he is hell bent on doing it.

Well with these Panama leaks and Imran Khan breathing down his neck one wonders how much he can really do? plus the real power still lies with the Military we should be speaking to the COAS and generals there if we want to see a change.

 

[Kal Muah]

Well with these Panama leaks and Imran Khan breathing down his neck one wonders how much he can really do? plus the real power still lies with the Military we should be speaking to the COAS and generals there if we want to see a change.

I know civilian govt is just a veil for the world, when the real power lies with military. While you see bad in that, i see opportunity for India. India should never change the status quo that we have currently with pakistan. Let pakistan involve themselves in arms race, if they catch up, their economy will be in doldrums, if then don't, their military will be in doldrums. Win-Win scenario for India.

 

[Dr Gupta]

I know civilian govt is just a veil for the world, when the real power lies with military. While you see bad in that, i see opportunity for India. India should never change the status quo that we have currently with pakistan. Let pakistan involve themselves in arms race, if they catch up, their economy will be in doldrums, if then don't, their military will be in doldrums. Win-Win scenario for India.

Well if their is anarchy there it would breed extremism, South Punjab is a hotbed of militant groups and this does not bode well for India or even the west has many terror plots in the the west had direct links with people from Pakistan.

 

[Kal Muah]

Well if their is anarchy there it would breed extremism, South Punjab is a hotbed of militant groups and this does not bode well for India or even the west has many terror plots in the the west had direct links with people from Pakistan.

When the water of the river is dirty, the fish suffers not the ocean where it meets. Yes, India will face terrorism, Yes world will face terrorism, but what India or rest of the world will face will be negligible to what will happen to pakistan and its people. Don't you agree with that?

 

[Dr Gupta]

When the water of the river is dirty, the fish suffers not the ocean where it meets. Yes, India will face terrorism, Yes world will face terrorism, but what India or rest of the world will face will be negligible to what will happen to pakistan and its people. Don't you agree with that?

Yes and no the ones who suffer is our friends the Ahmedis the Sufis and the innocent civilians. Our real enemy does not suffer the likes of JUD/LET/JEM they have thousands of supporters and continue building madrassas and who is going to take on them? not even the Pakistan security forces have taken any proper action.

 

[Kal Muah]

Yes and no the ones who suffer is our friends the Ahmedis the Sufis and the innocent civilians. Our real enemy does not suffer the likes of JUD/LET/JEM they have thousands of supporters and continue building madrassas and who is going to take on them? not even the Pakistan security forces have taken any proper action.

Being a senior member than me, do forgive for my arrogancy while debating with you. Ahmedis and Sufis will continue to suffer even if India tries to have a good relationship with Pakistan. JUD LET JEM are the byproducts of extremism itself. You cannot change their mindset no matter how much you try to help.

 

[Dr Gupta]

Being a senior member than me, do forgive for my arrogancy while debating with you. Ahmedis and Sufis will continue to suffer even if India tries to have a good relationship with Pakistan. JUD LET JEM are the byproducts of extremism itself. You cannot change their mindset no matter how much you try to help.

The funding comes from all over here in the west and gulf are prime centres of where they are receiving these 'charitable' donations.

Al-Rashid Trust was one of these so called charities which is now been put on the list of terror fronts by the US.

You saw that Saudi Arabia deported one of the 26/11 culprits also which shows the tide is turning, Interpol also has put red corner notices on some of the prime key members. Much more needs to be done but slowly but surely we can win this war.

There is just 200-300 Jihadi fighters in Kashmir now compared to the 1990's which was the height of militancy, yesterday we shot another 2 and arrested 1 or 2 also.

 

[Kal Muah]

The funding comes from all over here in the west and gulf are prime centres of where they are receiving these 'charitable' donations.

Al-Rashid Trust was one of these so called charities which is now been put on the list of terror fronts by the US.

You saw that Saudi Arabia deported one of the 26/11 culprits also which shows the tide is turning, Interpol also has put red corner notices on some of the prime key members. Much more needs to be done but slowly but surely we can win this war.

You can fight with people, but you can fight with an Ideology. One down today, tomorrow two will grow. This situation remind me of one story where maa durga cuts off that ashurs head and from his blood more ashuras grow up. The more India will fight, the more they will grow. Unless they cutoff the ideology they will continue to suffer.

 

[Dr Gupta]

The brainchild of the 26/11 attack was not LET or HS but Ilyas Kashmiri (who had the idea) which later the task was given to the LET to carry out. Ilyas Kashmiri is dead now (killed by a US drone attack)

His death as well as Bin Laden's resulted in the attack on PNS Mehran attack

You can fight with people, but you can fight with an Ideology. One down today, tomorrow two will grow. This situation remind me of one story where maa durga cuts off that ashurs head and from his blood more ashuras grow up. The more India will fight, the more they will grow. Unless they cutoff the ideology they will continue to suffer.

True but the battle of ideology is not a easy one. Our job should be secure our borders, grow our economy and prevent a spill over in terrorism what more can we do?

 

[Kal Muah]

The brainchild of the 26/11 attack was not LET or HS but Ilyas Kashmiri (who had the idea) which later the task was given to the LET to carry out. Ilyas Kashmiri is dead now (killed by a US drone attack)

His death as well as Bin Laden's resulted in the attack on PNS Mehran attack




True but the battle of ideology is not a easy one. Our job should be secure our borders, grow our economy and prevent a spill over in terrorism what more can we do?

Exactly what happens in pakistan should be none of our buisness, India instead of fearing pakistans civil war should keep on rising protection both externally and internally.

 

[Dr Gupta]

Exactly what happens in pakistan should be none of our buisness, India instead of fearing pakistans civil war should keep on rising protection both externally and internally.

You can't choose the neighbours whether we like it or not both countries must make peace in the end. Just look what is going on in Punjab so many of our youth have been hooked on heroin which is smuggled through.

core issue for them is Kashmir and for us it is terrorism, we must work together to make peace but the vested entities are preventing it.

Let's see who the new COAS will be that is a important decision for Pakistan and the war on terror.

 

[Kal Muah]

You can't choose the neighbours whether we like it or not both countries must make peace in the end. Just look what is going on in Punjab so many of our youth have been hooked on heroin which is smuggled through.

core issue for them is Kashmir and for us it is terrorism, we must work together to make peace but the vested entities are preventing it.

We cant choose but we change the neighbours, just like how we changed our east neighbour. True punjab has become a drug den lately. They will not give kashmir, we will not give kashmir, its what we call in Operating Sytem, a deadlock situation. The only way to avoid deadlock, someone has to give up resources. Anyways i am going off, it was nice debating with you sir. Btw are you a real doc? or is it just a username?

 

[Dr Gupta]

We cant choose but we change the neighbours, just like how we changed our east neighbour. True punjab has become a drug den lately. They will not give kashmir, we will not give kashmir, its what we call in Operating Sytem, a deadlock situation. The only way to avoid deadlock, someone has to give up resources. Anyways i am going off, it was nice debating with you sir. Btw are you a real doc? or is it just a username?

I am not a medical Dr but did my PhD and now doing research at SOAS University. Likewise tc and we can talk more next time.

 

[Kal Muah]

I am not a medical Dr but did my PhD and now doing research at SOAS University. Likewise tc and we can talk more next time.

oh! So which field you are in sir?