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A defector from China has revealed some of the innermost secrets of the Chinese government and military, including details of its nuclear command and control system, according to American intelligence officials.

Businessman Ling Wancheng disappeared from public view in California last year shortly after his brother, Ling Jihua, a former high-ranking official in the Communist Party, was arrested in China on corruption charges.

Ling Wancheng, the defector, has been undergoing a debrief by FBI, CIA, and other intelligence officials since last fall at a secret location in the United States, said officials familiar with details of the defection who spoke on condition of anonymity. The defector is said to be a target of covert Chinese agents seeking to capture or kill him.

Among the information disclosed by Ling are details about the procedures used by Chinese leaders on the use of nuclear weapons, such as the steps taken in preparing nuclear forces for attack and release codes for nuclear arms.

Other secrets revealed included details about the Chinese leadership and its facilities, including the compound in Beijing known as Zhongnanhai. That information is said to be valuable for U.S. electronic spies, specifically for cyber intelligence operations targeting the secretive Chinese leadership.

Spokesmen for the White House, FBI, CIA, and Department of Homeland Security declined to comment on the case.

Other officials said Ling defected sometime in the summer of 2015 after his brother, once the senior administrative aide to former Chinese leader Hu Jintao, came under suspicion for leaking state secrets.

Intelligence officials said Ling, if confirmed as a legitimate defector in debriefings over the next several months, would have the most privileged information of any defector from China to the United States in more than 30 years.

“This is an intelligence windfall,” said one senior official.

The events surrounding Ling’s defection and his brother’s arrest appear to be part of a complex internal power struggle in China led by current leader Xi Jinping targeting hundreds of Party leaders and officials. Under the guise of a nationwide anticorruption drive within the Chinese leadership, Xi is said to be systematically removing rivals from previous administrations.

Officials said Ling Wancheng is being kept under tight security after U.S. intelligence agencies detected the activity of covert Chinese agents tasked with tracking down Chinese nationals sought by the government.

The defection was triggered by the arrest of Ling’s brother, Ling Jihua, a former presidential aide who secretly obtained some 2,700 internal documents from a special Communist Party unit he headed until 2012. The unit was in charge of storing and archiving classified documents.

Ling Jihua then gave the documents to his brother, who owns a $2.5 million residence in Loomis, California, near Sacramento. The classified documents were transferred between the brothers as a safety measure: They were intended to be used as leverage to dissuade Chinese authorities from taking action against Ling Jihua.

According to the officials, Ling Wancheng, the defector, kept the documents for safekeeping and was directed to release them to U.S. authorities in the event Ling Jihua were arrested.

China announced in July it was prosecuting Ling Jihua for disclosing secrets, taking bribes, conducting illicit sexual affairs, and using his position to benefit relatives. The former official is currently undergoing harsh interrogation in China.

Ling Jihua reportedly has been a main source for corruption investigations that helped bring down China’s security czar, Zhou Yongkang, as well as two senior military officials

Ling Jihua held the post of chief of the secretariat of the Party’s Political Bureau under Hu Jintao until 2012. The position is equivalent to that of the White House chief of staff, with broad access to the most sensitive details available exclusively to senior Chinese leaders.

In August, after the New York Times reported the Chinese government had asked the Obama administration to return Ling Wancheng, State Department spokesman Mark Toner told reporters Ling was not suspected of criminal activity.

“I’m not aware that he’s suspected of breaking any U.S. laws, but that’s a matter for the FBI or for other domestic law enforcement agencies,” Toner said Aug. 3.

Last month, Liu Jianchao, the Chinese official in charge of Beijing’s anti-corruption campaign, told Reuters that Ling was in the United States.

“As for the case of Ling Wancheng, the Chinese side is handling it and is communicating with the United States,” Liu said Jan. 14.

Secretary of State John Kerry met in Beijing with Chinese State Councilor Yang Jiechi last week and discussed “law-enforcement, pursuit of fugitives and their illicit money,” according to state-run media reports.

A State Department official said the Ling case was not discussed during Kerry’s meetings in Beijing.

The Chinese have looked at the case as a criminal case while the U.S. government is treating the defection as an intelligence matter, making Ling’s repatriation to China unlikely.

Michael Pillsbury, a China specialist with the Hudson Institute, said Chinese defectors with access to secrets are rare and usually need careful protection.

Pillsbury’s 2015 book The 100-Year Marathon draws on data provided by five Chinese defectors.

“Over the last three decades, Chinese defectors have been a vital source of insights about the secrets Beijing wants to keep from Washington,” said Pillsbury.

“Very few defectors wrote about it or gave interviews,” he added.

One important defector was Yu Qiansheng, an official with the Ministry of State Security, who defected in 1985 and revealed that CIA analyst Larry Wu-Tai Chin was a spy for China. Yu is the brother of current Chinese Politburo Standing Committee member Yu Zhengsheng, currently one of the most powerful leaders in China.

More recently, China’s leading dissident, the astrophysics professor Fang Lizhi, revealed details about secret internal debates in a book.

“Let’s hope more defectors come out to reveal Beijing’s secret debates,” Pillsbury said.

Former State Department China hand John J. Tkacik said Ling likely can provide new details of Chinese power struggles, such as the cases of ousted security chief Zhou Yongkang and imprisoned regional Party chief Bo Xilai.

“But the most important intel he could provide would be on the inner workings of China’s global financial strategies, the extent to which the Chinese have infiltrated both global financial markets, both with human assets and network penetrations, and have used these tools to fuel their incredible accumulation on wealth,” Tkacik said.

Ling also could reveal details of China’s agricultural, industrial, and media purchases in the United States and how they fit within Beijing’s broader strategy to coopt the U.S. economy, Tkacik said.

“How much useful intelligence the Bureau can get from Ling will be a measure of how seriously the U.S. government takes China’s financial threat to the U.S. economy,” he added.

The first details of the Ling case were disclosed in two dissident Chinese magazines in Hong Kong, Qianshao and Chenming, in November. The London Sunday Times first reported the magazines’ disclosures, some of which were confirmed by U.S. officials.

According to the Chenming, China’s senior internal security chief Meng Jianzhu disclosed details of what he called one of China’s most damaging betrayals at a closed-door meeting of Party officials in southern China.

Ling Jihua was accused of carrying out the document theft some time between June 2012 and his arrest on July 20, 2015.

After the arrest, a special task force of Chinese security and intelligence agencies was formed to assess the damage. The task force finished its work in September.

As a result, 72 senior officials out of a total 85 officials in 19 offices under Ling Jihua were replaced and at least 55 people were under investigation by last fall.

The Chenming report said that as a result of the compromises, Chinese Politburo offices came under cyber attack for several months. Additionally, telephone and computer equipment was replaced over security concerns.

Ling Wancheng was said to have had unrestricted access to Ling Jihua’s office and is therefore suspected of making off with the classified documents, the magazine said.

According to Qianshao, the second magazine, Meng said at the meeting that Ling, as a gatekeeper of the Communist Party’s most important secrets, “stole a great many top-secret documents from the archives concerning the Party and the state, kept [them] in his personal possession, [and] ultimately got them to America.”

The documents were taken during a month-long transition after Ling Jihua was replaced in July 2012. The office he headed was in charge of protecting government and military secrets.

During an investigation of Ling’s residence, Chinese authorities discovered that 2,700 secret documents had been photocopied. Most of the photocopies had been produced after September 2012, when Ling Jihua was transferred to another government ministry.

The secrets included security passcodes and communications codes used at Zhongnanhai, blueprints, and command and control information used by Communist leaders and the State Council, the cabinet, and the Central Military Commission.

Launch procedures for firing nuclear missiles used by Party leaders and People’s Liberation Army leaders also were leaked.

China’s nuclear arsenal and the conditions for its use are among Beijing’s most closely guarded secrets. Very little information is held by U.S. intelligence agencies on how China would use nuclear weapons and when it would conduct nuclear attacks.

Analysts say the magazines’ publication of details on the Ling case appears linked to two current senior Chinese officials who reportedly have voiced concerns about Ling Jihua’s loyalty to senior Party leaders.

Wang Huning, one of the closest national security aides to current leader Xi Jinping, and Wang Qishan, the anti-corruption campaign leader, were said to have warned Hu Jintao that Ling Jihua was unreliable. The officials’ claims to have warned about Ling suggest one of the officials may have leaked the information.

According to Chengming, Hu Jintao suffered a stroke during a meeting on the Ling affair and was hospitalized. Hu was last seen in public in early May 2015.

The Los Angeles Times reported that Ling Wancheng, who lived in California under the names Wang Cheng and Jason Wang, was an avid golfer and executive of a golf management and financial firm called Asian Pacific Group, which owns golf courses in California and Nevada. He had lived in the Loomis mansion since 2013.

Efforts to contact an Asian Pacific Group executive, Li Shuhai, were unsuccessful.

The newspaper reported that two agents from the Department of Homeland Security questioned neighbors about Ling in the spring or summer of 2015.

Ling Wancheng was a former journalist for two state-run Chinese news outlets and later became a wealthy financial investor with a Beijing firm called Huijin Lifang Investment Management Center.

Real estate records indicate Ling was married to Li Ping.

Efforts to contact Ling Wancheng were unsuccessful.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/chinese-defector-reveals-beijings-secrets/
 
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this again, he's equivalent to the brother of white house chief of staff to the prior administration. all his information is at best 4 years old, and prior to the PLA restructuring. He can say whatever to save his own skin and there is no way the US could verify it, even some are true, it is most likely outdated. (which again shows just how little US know about the inner workings of CCP)

If China wants the same information they can just go to a private think tank, or watch some C-Span, at least the information is up to date.

They let him go for a reason, the people in China with real classified information are not even allowed to have a passport, and I know this for a fact.
 
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F22raptors stop reposting over and over again. If it really important to China Ling wangcheng could have dead by now by China spy agent.
 
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this again, he's equivalent to the brother of white house chief of staff to the prior administration. all his information is at best 4 years old, and prior to the PLA restructuring. He can say whatever to save his own skin and there is no way the US could verify it, even some are true, it is most likely outdated. (which again shows just how little US know about the inner workings of CCP)

If China wants the same information they can just go to a private think tank, or watch some C-Span, at least the information is up to date.

They let him go for a reason, the people in China with real classified information are not even allowed to have a passport, and I know this for a fact.
I agree. We already changed the military structure from 7 regions to 5 commands show the leak is not useful anymore. Though, it does show us how weak of a leader Hu Jintao is.

Next step is to execute a grand assassin plan on the traitors.
 
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I agree. We already changed the military structure from 7 regions to 5 commands show the leak is not useful anymore. Though, it does show us how weak of a leader Hu Jintao is.

Next step is to execute a grand assassin plan on the traitors.

:sarcastic: The China Military Command is certainly NOT losing any sleep!

Unless USA is admitting she is lacking in the cyber-warfare today. :omghaha:
 
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A defector from China has revealed some of the innermost secrets of the Chinese government and military, including details of its nuclear command and control system, according to American intelligence officials.

Businessman Ling Wancheng disappeared from public view in California last year shortly after his brother, Ling Jihua, a former high-ranking official in the Communist Party, was arrested in China on corruption charges.

Ling Wancheng, the defector, has been undergoing a debrief by FBI, CIA, and other intelligence officials since last fall at a secret location in the United States, said officials familiar with details of the defection who spoke on condition of anonymity. The defector is said to be a target of covert Chinese agents seeking to capture or kill him.

Among the information disclosed by Ling are details about the procedures used by Chinese leaders on the use of nuclear weapons, such as the steps taken in preparing nuclear forces for attack and release codes for nuclear arms.

Other secrets revealed included details about the Chinese leadership and its facilities, including the compound in Beijing known as Zhongnanhai. That information is said to be valuable for U.S. electronic spies, specifically for cyber intelligence operations targeting the secretive Chinese leadership.

Spokesmen for the White House, FBI, CIA, and Department of Homeland Security declined to comment on the case.

Other officials said Ling defected sometime in the summer of 2015 after his brother, once the senior administrative aide to former Chinese leader Hu Jintao, came under suspicion for leaking state secrets.

Intelligence officials said Ling, if confirmed as a legitimate defector in debriefings over the next several months, would have the most privileged information of any defector from China to the United States in more than 30 years.

“This is an intelligence windfall,” said one senior official.

The events surrounding Ling’s defection and his brother’s arrest appear to be part of a complex internal power struggle in China led by current leader Xi Jinping targeting hundreds of Party leaders and officials. Under the guise of a nationwide anticorruption drive within the Chinese leadership, Xi is said to be systematically removing rivals from previous administrations.

Officials said Ling Wancheng is being kept under tight security after U.S. intelligence agencies detected the activity of covert Chinese agents tasked with tracking down Chinese nationals sought by the government.

The defection was triggered by the arrest of Ling’s brother, Ling Jihua, a former presidential aide who secretly obtained some 2,700 internal documents from a special Communist Party unit he headed until 2012. The unit was in charge of storing and archiving classified documents.

Ling Jihua then gave the documents to his brother, who owns a $2.5 million residence in Loomis, California, near Sacramento. The classified documents were transferred between the brothers as a safety measure: They were intended to be used as leverage to dissuade Chinese authorities from taking action against Ling Jihua.

According to the officials, Ling Wancheng, the defector, kept the documents for safekeeping and was directed to release them to U.S. authorities in the event Ling Jihua were arrested.

China announced in July it was prosecuting Ling Jihua for disclosing secrets, taking bribes, conducting illicit sexual affairs, and using his position to benefit relatives. The former official is currently undergoing harsh interrogation in China.

Ling Jihua reportedly has been a main source for corruption investigations that helped bring down China’s security czar, Zhou Yongkang, as well as two senior military officials

Ling Jihua held the post of chief of the secretariat of the Party’s Political Bureau under Hu Jintao until 2012. The position is equivalent to that of the White House chief of staff, with broad access to the most sensitive details available exclusively to senior Chinese leaders.

In August, after the New York Times reported the Chinese government had asked the Obama administration to return Ling Wancheng, State Department spokesman Mark Toner told reporters Ling was not suspected of criminal activity.

“I’m not aware that he’s suspected of breaking any U.S. laws, but that’s a matter for the FBI or for other domestic law enforcement agencies,” Toner said Aug. 3.

Last month, Liu Jianchao, the Chinese official in charge of Beijing’s anti-corruption campaign, told Reuters that Ling was in the United States.

“As for the case of Ling Wancheng, the Chinese side is handling it and is communicating with the United States,” Liu said Jan. 14.

Secretary of State John Kerry met in Beijing with Chinese State Councilor Yang Jiechi last week and discussed “law-enforcement, pursuit of fugitives and their illicit money,” according to state-run media reports.

A State Department official said the Ling case was not discussed during Kerry’s meetings in Beijing.

The Chinese have looked at the case as a criminal case while the U.S. government is treating the defection as an intelligence matter, making Ling’s repatriation to China unlikely.

Michael Pillsbury, a China specialist with the Hudson Institute, said Chinese defectors with access to secrets are rare and usually need careful protection.

Pillsbury’s 2015 book The 100-Year Marathon draws on data provided by five Chinese defectors.

“Over the last three decades, Chinese defectors have been a vital source of insights about the secrets Beijing wants to keep from Washington,” said Pillsbury.

“Very few defectors wrote about it or gave interviews,” he added.

One important defector was Yu Qiansheng, an official with the Ministry of State Security, who defected in 1985 and revealed that CIA analyst Larry Wu-Tai Chin was a spy for China. Yu is the brother of current Chinese Politburo Standing Committee member Yu Zhengsheng, currently one of the most powerful leaders in China.

More recently, China’s leading dissident, the astrophysics professor Fang Lizhi, revealed details about secret internal debates in a book.

“Let’s hope more defectors come out to reveal Beijing’s secret debates,” Pillsbury said.

Former State Department China hand John J. Tkacik said Ling likely can provide new details of Chinese power struggles, such as the cases of ousted security chief Zhou Yongkang and imprisoned regional Party chief Bo Xilai.

“But the most important intel he could provide would be on the inner workings of China’s global financial strategies, the extent to which the Chinese have infiltrated both global financial markets, both with human assets and network penetrations, and have used these tools to fuel their incredible accumulation on wealth,” Tkacik said.

Ling also could reveal details of China’s agricultural, industrial, and media purchases in the United States and how they fit within Beijing’s broader strategy to coopt the U.S. economy, Tkacik said.

“How much useful intelligence the Bureau can get from Ling will be a measure of how seriously the U.S. government takes China’s financial threat to the U.S. economy,” he added.

The first details of the Ling case were disclosed in two dissident Chinese magazines in Hong Kong, Qianshao and Chenming, in November. The London Sunday Times first reported the magazines’ disclosures, some of which were confirmed by U.S. officials.

According to the Chenming, China’s senior internal security chief Meng Jianzhu disclosed details of what he called one of China’s most damaging betrayals at a closed-door meeting of Party officials in southern China.

Ling Jihua was accused of carrying out the document theft some time between June 2012 and his arrest on July 20, 2015.

After the arrest, a special task force of Chinese security and intelligence agencies was formed to assess the damage. The task force finished its work in September.

As a result, 72 senior officials out of a total 85 officials in 19 offices under Ling Jihua were replaced and at least 55 people were under investigation by last fall.

The Chenming report said that as a result of the compromises, Chinese Politburo offices came under cyber attack for several months. Additionally, telephone and computer equipment was replaced over security concerns.

Ling Wancheng was said to have had unrestricted access to Ling Jihua’s office and is therefore suspected of making off with the classified documents, the magazine said.

According to Qianshao, the second magazine, Meng said at the meeting that Ling, as a gatekeeper of the Communist Party’s most important secrets, “stole a great many top-secret documents from the archives concerning the Party and the state, kept [them] in his personal possession, [and] ultimately got them to America.”

The documents were taken during a month-long transition after Ling Jihua was replaced in July 2012. The office he headed was in charge of protecting government and military secrets.

During an investigation of Ling’s residence, Chinese authorities discovered that 2,700 secret documents had been photocopied. Most of the photocopies had been produced after September 2012, when Ling Jihua was transferred to another government ministry.

The secrets included security passcodes and communications codes used at Zhongnanhai, blueprints, and command and control information used by Communist leaders and the State Council, the cabinet, and the Central Military Commission.

Launch procedures for firing nuclear missiles used by Party leaders and People’s Liberation Army leaders also were leaked.

China’s nuclear arsenal and the conditions for its use are among Beijing’s most closely guarded secrets. Very little information is held by U.S. intelligence agencies on how China would use nuclear weapons and when it would conduct nuclear attacks.

Analysts say the magazines’ publication of details on the Ling case appears linked to two current senior Chinese officials who reportedly have voiced concerns about Ling Jihua’s loyalty to senior Party leaders.

Wang Huning, one of the closest national security aides to current leader Xi Jinping, and Wang Qishan, the anti-corruption campaign leader, were said to have warned Hu Jintao that Ling Jihua was unreliable. The officials’ claims to have warned about Ling suggest one of the officials may have leaked the information.

According to Chengming, Hu Jintao suffered a stroke during a meeting on the Ling affair and was hospitalized. Hu was last seen in public in early May 2015.

The Los Angeles Times reported that Ling Wancheng, who lived in California under the names Wang Cheng and Jason Wang, was an avid golfer and executive of a golf management and financial firm called Asian Pacific Group, which owns golf courses in California and Nevada. He had lived in the Loomis mansion since 2013.

Efforts to contact an Asian Pacific Group executive, Li Shuhai, were unsuccessful.

The newspaper reported that two agents from the Department of Homeland Security questioned neighbors about Ling in the spring or summer of 2015.

Ling Wancheng was a former journalist for two state-run Chinese news outlets and later became a wealthy financial investor with a Beijing firm called Huijin Lifang Investment Management Center.

Real estate records indicate Ling was married to Li Ping.

Efforts to contact Ling Wancheng were unsuccessful.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/chinese-defector-reveals-beijings-secrets/

As an Intelligence Officer myself, I can tell you that most defector does not carry any useful or sometime even usable information. It would be quite useless.

Basically, when the person start stealing information and start funnelling them to another country, in this case, the US. The original country (China) don't know that he is doing it, and things might have been a lot different.

problem is that most defector come out of hiding and turning them into the other country, the moment they did that, their original allegiance will then realise the extend and change whatever is missing. Even with a country with mediocre intelligence defence system, they can easily change it in 2 to 3 months. Thus, if he was defected and China knew he was defecting back in June 2015, most information the defector have might have been useless...

Only stuff that were useful may have been using the defector to verify some information, but then seems like this particular defector does not process any secret information that worth verifying, judging from his position as A.) He was an senior aide to former Premier. B.) His position have nothing the US wanted.

We might as well put him in play, but again judging from the situation mentioned seems like his source was terminated hence the public defection, and the US may have stuck with information that were at least 6 months old. Am afraid although I don't do that normally, the Chinese poster here may be right, the US can't get any useful juice out of this guy, wonder why the FBI kept him?
 
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As an Intelligence Officer myself, I can tell you that most defector does not carry any useful or sometime even usable information. It would be quite useless.

Basically, when the person start stealing information and start funnelling them to another country, in this case, the US. The original country (China) don't know that he is doing it, and things might have been a lot different.

problem is that most defector come out of hiding and turning them into the other country, the moment they did that, their original allegiance will then realise the extend and change whatever is missing. Even with a country with mediocre intelligence defence system, they can easily change it in 2 to 3 months. Thus, if he was defected and China knew he was defecting back in June 2015, most information the defector have might have been useless...

Only stuff that were useful may have been using the defector to verify some information, but then seems like this particular defector does not process any secret information that worth verifying, judging from his position as A.) He was an senior aide to former Premier. B.) His position have nothing the US wanted.

We might as well put him in play, but again judging from the situation mentioned seems like his source was terminated hence the public defection, and the US may have stuck with information that were at least 6 months old. Am afraid although I don't do that normally, the Chinese poster here may be right, the US can't get any useful juice out of this guy, wonder why the FBI kept him?

Just one correction, He was not an senior aid, his brother was, up until 2012.

again, knowing his defection, China has long been doing damage control, including analyzing what he knows and making necessary changes, and US knowing that, it is very hard to know if any information is still good and putting the information to actual use.
 
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Post the foto of this traitor, who knows, please? I don't know who the guy is.
 
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Post the foto of this traitor, who knows, please? I don't know who the guy is.
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You can tell from his face that he is a rat. Even Xi's aides have warned Hu of this rat.
 
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Just one correction, He was not an senior aid, his brother was, up until 2012.

again, knowing his defection, China has long been doing damage control, including analyzing what he knows and making necessary changes, and US knowing that, it is very hard to know if any information is still good and putting the information to actual use.

meh, whatever, my point still stand.

Probably using the word Asylum than Defection, I don't think he can defect with any useful information. But he can probably applied for asylum for political prosecution.
 
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Sounds like China collapsing again ... thanks the show displayed by CPC and U.S.
 
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meh, whatever, my point still stand.

Probably using the word Asylum than Defection, I don't think he can defect with any useful information. But he can probably applied for asylum for political prosecution.

He has no political influences in China, so I personally don't care its Asylum or Defection. I wish his sons, daughters, descendants will lead a good life in America.
 
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Raptorboy, I am sure Ling's damage to CCP is much smaller than Mr Snowden to the US. We all know how shameless the US gov is...
 
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Just one correction, He was not an senior aid, his brother was, up until 2012.

The stuff he knew dates into the Hu Jintao era. it's going to be shallow, no longer relevant and likely useless.

He is literally playing "Chinese whisper" with China and the US, passing on dated and irrelevant information (as the 'brother' of an 'ex senior aid').
 
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Not a big deal. For nuclear system, the technology has improved significantly during last two decades. This incident will force China to reshuffle the nuclear system. US need to do the same. As reported, even floppy disks are widely used in US system.
For details about Chinese leaderships, time for Chinese government to be more open.

The only severe possible damage is the damage to Chinese intelligence organization. If the report was true, then almost no damage.

Actually this incident will help the party greatly. For the last 30 years, under the name of open-mindness, many people, who actually hate the party, got admitted into the party and the government. One example is the Communist Youth League group, formed by former CCP general sectary Hu Yaobang, whose death lead to TiananMen Accident. This group is extremely pro-West. Ling Jihua was the core head of this group. Xi is clearly using this incident to turn left politically which will give a severe blow to pro-USA groups in the party and the government. The Youth league group is clearly being purged now. If you understand Chinese, almost every week, one senior official from this group is demoted or removed from positions.

US may gain some intelligence from this defection, however, US impact on Chinese policy decision making will be greatly reduced as pro-USA wings in China are getting purged.
 
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