Chinese coast guard takes control over Diaoyu Islands from Japan

[WuMaoCleverbot]

I believe that the Japanese is the real owner of Senkaku Islands. And the Chinese are just plain shameless land grabbers. The title of the thread is misleading. Chinese coast guard DID NOT took control of the Senkaku Islands from the Japanese. The Japanese is still in control of the Senkaku Islands. This is another Chinese propaganda meant for local Chinese consumption.
All of China's historical claims are not recognized under international law.

If your Chinese government treats you like idiots who would believe anything they say, don't put the rest of the world at the same level that you are on.

 

[WuMaoCleverbot]

The REAL reason why the Chinese are claiming the Senkaku Islands:

In 1971, the Taiwanese and Chinese governments officially began to declare ownership of the islands after the U.N. issued a report about possible gas and oil reserves in the Senkaku area.

Senkaku Islands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Korean]

I believe that the Japanese is the real owner of Senkaku Islands.

China is the rightful owner of Diaoyutai, just like Philippines is the rightful owner of Scarborough Shoals.

Unlike China's BS claims on Spratlys, historical evidences do support Chinese ownership of Diaoyutai. Unfortunately for China, the Diaoyutai is under the US protection via the mutual defense treaty and JMSDF and JASDF strength alone is enough to stop a Chinese military action on the Diaoyutai.

 

[Zabaniyah]

^^^Uh oh...

 

[Mani2020]

China is the rightful owner of Diaoyutai, just like Philippines is the rightful owner of Scarborough Shoals.

Unlike China's BS claims on Spratlys, historical evidences do support Chinese ownership of Diaoyutai. Unfortunately for China, the Diaoyutai is under the US protection via the mutual defense treaty and JMSDF and JASDF strength alone is enough to stop a Chinese military action on the Diaoyutai.

No offense but with the size of Japan , two nukes are enough to wipe japan out of the map while with the geographic boundaries of China they can survive any nuclear attack and possess a second strike capability, btw japan doesnot have nuclear weapons anyway.

Its not that i am against Japan because we dont have any hard feelings for them neither is it our concern about the ongoing tussles of China and other countries , but your statement was really exaggerated one so i have to jump into that ..

May the peace prevail in the region

 

[Korean]

No offense but with the size of Japan , two nukes are enough to wipe japan out of the map

And China gets nuked too in return. China has not threatened the use of nukes to anyone.

but your statement was really exaggerated one so i have to jump into that

PLAAF and PLAN don't stand a chance against the JMSDF and JASDF in a regional conflict. Even the Russians feel threatened by Japan at the Kurils.

 

[Mani2020]

And China gets nuked too in return. China has not threatened the use of nukes to anyone.


PLAAF and PLAN don't stand a chance against the JMSDF and JASDF in a regional conflict. Even the Russians feel threatened by Japan at the Kurils.

Did US threaten the world for use of nukes before she wiped out the two cities of Japan? Why would a country with more stronger conventional power needs to threaten the hostile country perceived with relatively much lesser conventional power

BTW who would provide japan with the nuclear weapons? uncle sam? do you think such reaction will not break out another world war with china and US directly confronting each other and the involvement of other players as well and for that matter do you think it will be feasible for US to take any risk in such fragile economic conditions and when they are also stuck in afghanistan and almost on the verge of confronting with iran

 

[Korean]

Did US threaten the world for use of nukes before she wiped out the two cities of Japan?

That was before the formation of the nuclear NPT.

Why would a country with more stronger conventional power needs to threaten the hostile country perceived with relatively much lesser conventional power

China doesn't have a stronger naval and airforce power(At least the ones with enough range to be deployed over Diaoyutai)

BTW who would provide japan with the nuclear weapons? uncle sam?

The US provides Japan with a retaliatory guarantee against any one that nukes Japan.

do you think it will be feasible for US to take any risk in such fragile economic conditions and when they are also stuck in afghanistan and almost on the verge of confronting with iran

The US takes its legal obligations seriously. It's not a pick and choose like China's "guarantees".

 

[Mani2020]

^^
My question still stands, can US afford a direct confrontation with China in such economic constraints while stuck in afg and on the verge of confrontation with iran

For US or that matter for any country will its obligations towards its own country and public are more important or its obligations to an outside entity

What will you do when you are stuck and cant afford any confrontation , will you save your country by staying away or will you help an outside entity in the name of obligations and in the meanwhile hitting you own country and people hard , obviously you will prefer the former one

And forget about the US loyalties and obligations, they have history of ditching the nations they were once friendly with, they have swapped the powers and continuously changed there relationships , its an ever changing paradigm

 

[Korean]

^^
My question still stands, can US afford a direct confrontation with China in such economic constraints while stuck in afg and on the verge of confrontation with iran

Yes, because it is a matter of honoring a promise, not a budgetary issue. And Japan will pay back the cost the US incurred during the Diaoyutai confrontations.

And forget about the US loyalties and obligations, they have history of ditching the nations they were once friendly with

Such as? The only case I can think of is Taiwan. Vietnam doesn't count because the US helped them for 10 years and South Vietnam couldn't get its order straight.

 

[Mani2020]

Yes, because it is a matter of honoring a promise, not a budgetary issue. And Japan will pay back the cost the US incurred during the Diaoyutai confrontations.

And what makes you think that any mischief from either side i.e China and US will not result into a full fledge war and will only be limited to that particular area and scope .

And btw best of luck with your rational of putting your country on the edge of a cliff for the sake of some honoring of a promise

Such as? The only case I can think of is Taiwan. Vietnam doesn't count because the US helped them for 10 years and South Vietnam couldn't get its order straight.

Mate then you better need to go through the history again