Chinese-born maths genius leaves Harvard to help China become a powerhouse on subject

[S10]

Yes, we can all agree China definitely does have a flood of patents...

What Do China’s High Patent Numbers Really Mean?

Instead of being innovation-driven, most of China’s patent applications are driven by government subsidy, job promotion or reputation building.

www.cigionline.org

One Chinese patent expert stated rather bluntly that only 10 percent of China’s patents have market value and that probably 90 percent of them are “trash.”

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This is why things people see in their day to day lives (or up and coming things) are mostly created by non-Chinese companies.

Oh no worries, the realization just haven't all come in yet. Britain was still seen as the "high tech" center in late 19th century even though it was surpassed by US by the middle of the same century.

Old perceptions and stereotypes last for a while. It's funny how you say most things are created by non-Chinese companies, as if it's some sort of world vs China thing. You sure set some high expectation for us.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Oh no worries, the realization just haven't all come in yet. Britain was still seen as the "high tech" center in late 19th century even though it was surpassed by US by the middle of the same century.

Yes, please alert us all when those realizations finally start hitting the market. It's been at least 20 years now since the patent flood started...

Can you name one item in all those patents somebody in say a country like Brazil can currently hold in their hand and say "Thank you China for this great idea!! It makes my life easier".

E-cigarette maybe?

Try naming something...anything...put that brain to good use for once...give it a whirl!

It's funny how you say most things are created by non-Chinese companies,

Because if I just said "Western" I'd be leaving out places like Japan and South Korea.

 

[etylo]

Aren't they simply based on the standard Western design of steel/cement/glass multi-storied elevatored climate-controlled buildings supported by an infrastructure of water/electricity/sewer/fuel/telecommunications and dedicated roads for cars with signal lights and dedicated pedestrian sidewalks with overpass bridges and crosswalks. Public transportation systems like buses/trolleys and underground subway systems with rail lines/airports to connect the cities together.

This is just an example of Western soft power dramatically influencing the direction the world takes.

Was much of this common across China 100 years ago? It was in the West. My city had these 100 years ago. Although the airport didn't open until 1923. So I'm short by a year on that fact.

Alot of these things we take for granted as standard today in cities of the world were actually ironed out long ago through trial and error in the West. They just didn't appear out of nowhere and simply work.

Even like compromising on the proper height of sidewalks and the max slant slope of the street to the curb to shed water so people can both safely step up on to them yet not severely impacting the clearance of the bottom of a fully opening car door so it doesn't strike the sidewalk has been thought out. Just tons of little details like this through trial and error.

Yes, modern developments started in the west, yet perfected to today from all over the world.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Yes, modern developments started in the west, yet perfected to today from all over the world.

Well I think we can all safely assume things over the years are more likely perfected in a positive manner rather than a negative one.

 

[S10]

Yes, please alert us all when those realizations finally start hitting the market. It's been at least 20 years now since the patent flood started...

Can you name one item in all those patents somebody in say a country like Brazil can currently hold in their hand and say "Thank you China for this great idea!! It makes my life easier".

E-cigarette maybe?

Try naming something...anything...put that brain to good use for once...give it a whirl!



Because if I just said "Western" I'd be leaving out places like Japan and South Korea.

Now I know you're not that bright and can't count, so I will do it for you. China surpassed US in number of patents filed in 2010, which is 12 years ago. That's not 20 years. Here is a link to a grade 1 maths text book on Amazon and I highly recommend you to purchase it:

Amazon.ca

In terms of China's "unimportant" patents, oh my look at that distribution:

Transferable patents rate indicates the quality of patents accepted by other countries. China's average transnational patent rate is 66%, which is admittedly lower than 79% average in the world.

This results in a transfer rate of 79% for all nominal applications of all countries. For China, this rate is only 66%.

The difference between real and nominal varies considerably by technology. It is large for fields with high specialisation in PCT applications and thus in transnational patents such as digital communication, telecommunications, computer technology, IT methods or control technology. Medium differences can be found for technologies with high specialisation in domestic applications such as food chemistry, machine tools, civil engineering, chemical engineering, handling or special machines. In some technologies, the difference is zero or even positive, for instance, in semiconductors, optics, analysis of biological material, organic chemistry or micro- and nanotechnology.

China’s technological performance as reflected in patents - Scientometrics

Various concepts for the comparison of countries by patent indicators have been developed for the comparison of countries based on patent indicators. These concepts are generally based on the application of patents in several important markets or the family size of patent applications. A...

link.springer.com

But when you take into consideration sheer number of patents relative to everyone else, we're at the top of the pack for quality patents even at a lower percentage.

Suck on it.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Now I know you're not that bright and can't count, so I will do it for you.

So I count zero in that reply you supplied to my question of things a person in Brazil can hold in their hand and say thanks to China for.

Thank you for your reply. I knew you if you put your brain to good use you'd confirm my suspicions.

China surpassed US in number of patents filed in 2010, which is 12 years ago. That's not 20 years.

LOL! Ah so only the years when China passed the US in patents filed should be used as a baseline for eligibility of when say the average person in Brazil should be looking for some innovation from China that they can point to and say "Thank you China for this product" as years where China had lower patent filings than the US simply made them inherently junk patents and nothing should be expected of them.

Got it!

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Yes, modern developments started in the west, yet perfected to today from all over the world.

He said China didn't have cities with concrete buildings, electricity and public transit 100 years ago. That is outright wrong and I showed the pictures to prove it.

Even Beijing, which was a relative backwater during the ROC era, had electricity, trolleys and modern concrete buildings.

 

[etylo]

He said China didn't have cities with concrete buildings, electricity and public transit 100 years ago. That is outright wrong and I showed the pictures to prove it.

Even Beijing, which was a relative backwater during the ROC era, had electricity, trolleys and modern concrete buildings.

You are right, I might have overlooked his comments in some way. He is a freaking white racist and supremacist anyway.

 

[kankan326]

So I count zero in that reply you supplied to my question of things a person in Brazil can hold in their hand and say thanks to China for.

Thank you for your reply. I knew you if you put your brain to good use you'd confirm my suspicions.

Wrong, Germany leads world too in innovations and patents.



Innovation can only exist in an open society

It's not about open society/democracy or anything like that. It's about the level of economic development. Super economic powers with high per capita income(not per capita GDP) have most breakthoughs in most basic fields. Because investment in basic science is costly and risky. Only rich countries can offer it. Middle economic powers with middle per capita income tend to have innovations in applied science. Applied science can make quick and decent money and is less risky. Low per capita income countries can only do copy work for quick money.

Before 2010, China was a low per capita income country. From 2011 to today, China is a middle per capita income country. Most China's innovations are in applied science. Very reasonable.

 

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Whites malding

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

You are right, I might have overlooked his comments in some way. He is a freaking white racist and supremacist anyway.

Silly me in thinking all these items I mentioned were not common sites across the cities of China 100 years ago.

I'm glad you guys are here to tell everybody on PDF the truth about how it was not unusual in China for its cities to look like this 100 years ago:

"steel/cement/glass multi-storied elevatored climate-controlled buildings supported by an infrastructure of water/electricity/sewer/fuel/telecommunications and dedicated roads for cars with signal lights and dedicated pedestrian sidewalks with overpass bridges and crosswalks. Public transportation systems like buses/trolleys and underground subway systems with rail lines/airports to connect the cities together."

NYC

Chicago

Detroit

Boston

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How stupid of us all on PDF to not think the description I wrote and the videos I posted above of examples of it could not be a scene from China in 1922.

Really? @etylo You actually believe that?

Ok, sure they had a trolley in Beijing and I don't doubt there were some cars. Maybe even a few buildings had elevators...but to say China in 1922 had cities modeled around the above is simply not true.

 

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When you list past achievements to compare with the present, you know you have lost.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

When you list past achievements to compare with the present, you know you have lost.

No, when you keep falsely claiming you have had past achievements and keep getting proven wrong you know you have lost

 

[REhorror]

No, when you keep falsely claiming you have had past achievements you know you have lost

I mean, there's no denying past China has cities while N. America is basically plain and tribes.
There was a period when USA was successful, but now it's China who has high speed train and USA doesn't.

The present and future matter much more than the past, the past can in fact be rewritten.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I mean, there's no denying past China has cities while N. America is basically plain and tribes.
There was a period when USA was successful, but now it's China who has high speed train and USA doesn't.

The present and future matter much more than the past, the past can in fact be rewritten.

How is HSR some magic method measurement of success.

We have multiple companies that build jet airplanes that fly millions of people around the world. We have 5000 airports. China has yet to even have one successful jet plane.

Does that prove anything?