Chinese and Blasphemy: And what nations can learn from Chinese

[Yingluck]

Religion must be controlled in China. The last thing thAt China needs is another fcuker claiming to be the younger brother of Jesus and starting a rebellion.

Chinese Iman Hu Songshan hate Saudi. Any of your Imman are so wise?
Many Imman prefer to lick up Saudi (who is the poodle of USA) and help spread satanic wahhabi.

Many Sunni today will hate Chinese Muslims who align with state rather than the Sunni institution.



He went on Hajj to Mecca in 1924 at age 45, traveling through Shanghai and he reached Mecca in 1925. When Hu was in Mecca, he did not feel solidarity with other Muslims, he was treated racistly on hajj because he was from China, so he became a Chinese nationalist working to build a strong China, and abandoned salafism. Instead of advocating an Islamic state, he wanted Muslims to practice their religion in a strong China. He saw that Hui and Han people were treated the same and abused by foreigners. He rallied against foreign Imperialism and preached Chinese nationalism and unity between all Chinese. In Wuzhong County, Ningxia, Hu was the principal of an Arabic school. Hu Songshan had changed from being a Wahhabi Salafi to a modernist and influenced the Yihewani to change its ideology along that trend

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hu_Songshan

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

Nice, but you used to kill people for speaking against Mao. Some people even betrayed their own mother for talking against Mao and got her killed.
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Preach!!!

But..; You already had few in power in those past decades and today... who put himself as a messiah... that no one need to speak ill of him or the last thing you will see is a hole in the ground... ... Quite a devilish saint you have there...

Neither Mao or Xi or any other recent Chinese leader have put themselves up as a messiah or religious prophet.

That assertion is absurd.

On a side note, Mao have accomplishments of biblical proportions but no one sees him as a prophet or God.

 

[Old School]

Questioning gives birth to knowledge. Critical thinking requires questions. When question dies , knowledge dies to. No one and nothing is above criticism and if that means ‘blasphemy’ , i am happy to commit blasphemy again and again. There is then no freedom without blasphemy.

 

[Yingluck]

Mao is among greatest man, and genius.

The teaching of clerics will not deliver people from misery. But Mao has given hope to a despair nations, and bring it to unprecedented height.

Mao is a beacon and hope to all mankind.

 

[HannibalBarca]

On a side note, Mao have accomplishments of biblical proportions but no one sees him as a prophet or God.

Thanks for making my point right...

 

[Indus Pakistan]

The problem with religion is that people can and often do abuse it for political or monetery gain. This is most common in Pakistan where every other week somebody will invoke the name of religion to articulate his cause. Turkey and China have remedied this problem in differant ways but Pakistan will remain in chaos until a leash is placed on those who use religion for their private or political gain.

In the natural order of progression chaos prevails. As every other groups lays claim to "owning" Islam claiming that their interpretation is the true word of god. In the end these groups start killing each other as each is convinced they are true Muslims and are defending Islam. Each claims they have sole appointment from Allah and go forth convinced they are fighting for Allah.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Mao is among greatest man, and genius.

The teaching of clerics will not deliver people from misery. But Mao has given hope to a despair nations, and bring it to unprecedented height.

Mao is a beacon and hope to all mankind.

And the one who put millions and millions of Chinese in utterly suffering and death... for him to rise...

 

[Yingluck]

And the one who put millions and millions of Chinese in utterly suffering and death... for him to rise...

You have no Mao. You have no united Arabia. So you guys of 400 millions can do nothing to Israel, the size of a car park.

 

[HannibalBarca]

what is interesting in this thread... is how fast it turns to speak about Islam... Where the subject was China...

You have no Mao. You have no united Arabia. So you guys of 400 millions can do nothing to Israel, the size of a car park.

lol... here the boomrang guy.... Ready to catch?
T.A.I.W.A.N...

 

[Old School]

Mao is among greatest man, and genius.

The teaching of clerics will not deliver people from misery. But Mao has given hope to a despair nations, and bring it to unprecedented height.

Mao is a beacon and hope to all mankind.

Chairman Mao is among the greatest philosophers of modern history. He understood the importance of dialectical materialism and that was why he put cultural revolution at the forefront. Nothing can change without changing the culture which is the biggest challenge in Pakistan today.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Chairman Mao is among the greatest philosophers of modern history. He understood the importance of dialectical materialism and that was why he put cultural revolution at the forefront. Nothing can change without changing the culture which is the biggest challenge in Pakistan today.

Well... just FYI... you know that thing..;called Marxism;Communism; Soviets... yeah Try to keep the praise to the rightful ones... Thanks in advance...

Stealing is ok... so to speak... but saying it's yours...that's alittle more problematic...

 

[Yingluck]

In the book of Zhuang Zi 庄子, Confucius was ridicule. This occurred more than 2000 years ago. Today USA still have politically correct. Islam still have blasphemy.

See 盗跖

Below is excerpt

http://ctext.org/zhuangzi/robber-zhi



'And as to the admonitions which you, Qiu, wish to impress on me, if you tell me about the state of the dead, I am unable to know anything about it; if you tell me about the things of men (alive), they are only such as I have stated, what I have heard and know all about. I will now tell you, Sir, my views about the condition of man. The eyes wish to look on beauty; the ears to hear music; the mouth to enjoy flavours; the will to be gratified. The greatest longevity man can reach is a hundred years; a medium longevity is eighty years; the lowest longevity is sixty. Take away sickness, pining, bereavement, mourning, anxieties, and calamities, the times when, in any of these, one can open his mouth and laugh, are only four or five days in a month. Heaven and earth have no limit of duration, but the death of man has its (appointed) time. Take the longest amount of a limited time, and compare it with what is unlimited, its brief existence is not different from the passing of a crevice by one of king Mu's horses. Those who cannot gratify their will and natural aims, and nourish their appointed longevity, are all unacquainted with the (right) Way (of life). I cast from me, Zhi, all that you say. Be quick and go. Hurry back and say not a word more. Your Way is only a wild recklessness, deceitful, artful, vain, and hypocritical. It is not available to complete the true (nature of man); it is not worth talking about!'

 

[Old School]

Well... just FYI... you know that thing..;called Marxism;Communism; Soviets... yeah Try to keep the praise to the rightful ones... Thanks in advance...

Well , my rightful one is in fact Mikhail Bakunin and of course Karl Marx. However, Chairman Mao had his own interpretation of Marxism and he did a lot of theoretical work on Marx.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Well , my rightful one is in fact Mikhail Bakunin and of course Karl Marx. However, Chairman Mao had his own interpretation of Marxism and he did a lot of theoretical work on Marx.

Communism 101... I understand you want to glorify the one you respect/love or whatever... but let'snot blind ourselfs... he did what the Soviets did in the beginning... He even make the same mistakes... so yeah... quite a work he did...

 

[Yingluck]

Chinese text is full of admiration of people who kick the clerics, in service of people or states. You seldom find that in other culture.

Above state official Ximen Bao 西门豹 cast cleric into river to be drown. She was guilty of human sacrifice.

Today Hindutva are still respected. You get lynched for murdering cow.

Chinese culture is more advance than most culture for more than 2000 years.

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/西門豹