Chinese-American citizen on HK fugitive list for "inciting secession"&"colluding w/ foreign powers"

[Hamartia Antidote]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1289256588868370432

 

[TruthHurtz]

Look at this guys rap sheet

Samuel M. Chu currently directs the national advocacy and community organizing for MAZON: A Jewish Response to Hunger

In 2011, Chu was recognized by the City of Los Angeles with the LGBT Pride Award for his leadership in promoting and organizing religious support for LGBT civil rights and marriage equality.

Not only is he a zio-shill but he perverts Christianity with LGBT inclusion propaganda. Shameful.

 

[bbccdd1470]

Unless he gives up his HK citizenship otherwise he is also a Chinese citizen.

 

[Zsari]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1289256588868370432

Jurisdiction is based on where the guy is when the alleged crime occurred, not what citizenship he holds. Otherwise, no foreign nationals can be prosecuted under the US national security laws. Not sure where do some people get the idea that American citizens are above the law when abroad.

 

[bolo]

Unless he gives up his HK citizenship otherwise he is also a Chinese citizen.

Care to explain? Isnt he an American?

 

[bbccdd1470]

Care to explain? Isnt he an American?

HK allows dual citizenship, but Chinese gov't only considers you as a Chinese citizen unless that person gives up his HK citizenship.

 

[bolo]

HK allows dual citizenship, but Chinese gov't only considers you as a Chinese citizen unless that person gives up his HK citizenship.

I agree with Chinese government. Dual citizenship should not be allowed in HK.

 

[PakFactor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1289256588868370432

Don’t give rats *** what he was for 25 years you incite secession and other crimes you should be punished for breaking laws on behalf a foreign government.

 

[mazeto]

Am talking in general here, any person who leaves his country should mind his business in his new place. He should not try to rake up shit back where he left.
On a tangent, I don't trust a person who takes a name of convenience . The most personal identity of man is his name, if you trade it for worldly things you are capable of anything. So an Indian/Chinese/ iranian or Korean Samuel, Gordon, Alice or Betty loose my trust at face value ( of course it's a bias)
In this respect Muslims are good

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Jurisdiction is based on where the guy is when the alleged crime occurred, not what citizenship he holds. Otherwise, no foreign nationals can be prosecuted under the US national security laws. Not sure where do some people get the idea that American citizens are above the law when abroad.

The "colluding with foreign powers" part. If he is a US citizen how can China charge him with that. However as somebody brought up if he is dual then obviously there is a problem.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I agree with Chinese government. Dual citizenship should not be allowed in HK.

We can start with these people
https://www.marketplace.org/2019/03/06/why-chinese-parents-come-america-give-birth/
Why Chinese parents come to America to give birth
"every year, between 30,000 and 40,000 babies are born in the U.S. to foreign women, mostly from China and Russia."

 

[bolo]

We can start with these people
https://www.marketplace.org/2019/03/06/why-chinese-parents-come-america-give-birth/
Why Chinese parents come to America to give birth
"every year, between 30,000 and 40,000 babies are born in the U.S. to foreign women, mostly from China and Russia."

You can ask them. But if they gave birth in US, the kid is US citizen not Chinese.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

You can ask them. But if they gave birth in US, the kid is US citizen not Chinese.

That's not how it works. Children born to Chinese citizens overseas are automatically citizens of China. This is pretty standard for all countries. Same as if they were visiting Pakistan, Zimbabwe, or in the middle of the ocean on a foreign cruiseship. Most countries don't penalize you for not being physically within the borders.

 

[Zsari]

The "colluding with foreign powers" part. If he is a US citizen how can China charge him with that. However as somebody brought up if he is dual then obviously there is a problem.

It's from the perspective of Chinese law just as treason charges in the US applies to noncitizen.

 

[Zsari]

That's not how it works. Children born to Chinese citizens overseas are automatically citizens of China. This is pretty standard for all countries. Same as if they were visiting Pakistan, Zimbabwe, or in the middle of the ocean on a foreign cruiseship. Most countries don't penalize you for not being physically within the borders.

The Law provides that a person whose parents are both Chinese nationals and have both settled abroad (obtained U.S Green Card), or one of whose parents is a Chinese national and has settled abroad(obtained U.S Green Card), and who has acquired foreign nationality at birth shall not have Chinese nationality. The child will be eligible for a Chinese visa.