China's Xi says West has long-term economic, military superiority

[Viva_Viet]

China needs to realize something very fundamental - Followers can NEVER be leaders. Let me explain. If China thinks that copying various technologies of the West and the social, political or economic systems will make it a leader, then unfortunately this would be IMPOSSIBLE for China.

If China wants to be a true SUPERPOWER, then it needs to unchain itself from the systems and technologies establish by the West. It needs to find new innovative ways to develop new cutting edge technology. The key for China is new form of ENERGY. Everything on this planet is being dictated by the West because of one KEY ELEMENT - SOURCE OF ENERGY. If China can today find cutting edge new source of Energy, it will be GAME OVER for the West.

too late, XI just surrender to Trump and allow 100 percent foreign ownership for American companies operating in China as a binding pledge that can trigger retaliation if left unfulfilled.

US will buy all CN energy companies and take control all over CN soon after the surrender of XI.

 

[serenity]

This thread is started by article that is talking about Xi saying in 2013 when he came to office. To tell other's about normal stupid people's arguments like West is better which is still very true so therefore China failed and Socialism doesn't work. They don't bother to consider that China is rising only because of Socialism and everything takes time. West was better than everyone in the world socialist or capitalist. So does that prove everyone else failed? Then this idiots take that one line, "West has technology and economic superiority" (in 2013) to mean somehow that 2018 trade war waged by Donald Trump is won. My goodness no wonder you guys are losing. Can't even understand this simple idea. But okay keep masturbating it's good for us You can have your fake PR feel good victory.

 

[ARMalik]

too late, XI just surrender to Trump and allow 100 percent foreign ownership for American companies operating in China as a binding pledge that can trigger retaliation if left unfulfilled.

US will buy all CN energy companies and take control all over CN soon after the surrender of XI.

I don't believe this is true. But if there is any truth to this, then it is very unfortunately China becoming another Japan which has been decimated by the West.

 

[serenity]

I don't believe this is true. But if there is any truth to this, then it is very unfortunately China becoming another Japan which has been decimated by the West.

This isn't true. Not even in fake news central of internet areas did anyone quote those numbers. Economics and trade does not work the way it does in this guy's head. If USA tax all Chinese things 25% they better have alternatives that are affordable otherwise their businesses which all rely on Chinese goods will suffer profit loss and overhead increase. Many can go under and also China will tax Apple, GM, Ford, Microsoft, .... so on even more. The loss of income from China which is a huge part of those company income means they will either go broke or lose competitiveness to other Asian and European competitors in their field. Trade is natural order of balance. No ridiculous 25% tax. Even Trump gave up on his tax increase on China. This is reality and fact not made up bullshit like this guy. Trump wanted 15% but looks like he is big talker and unable to do because these guys are the same. Intelligence and understanding of high school teen but real world tackles them down to ground. Why did Trump give up on tax increase? He can't answer that but make up bullshit about secret agreements between China and USA that China will behave. Please hahahaha so so secret only those leaders know and this idiot knows.

Reality is Apple, GM, Ford, etc all remain so competitive because of huge income from making money off Chinese market. Chinese products do not depend on anyone. They are successful because there is nothing else in the world that can do the same for equal price or less. No one likes to use Chinese manufacturing but when they calculate and think about their own money in their pocket, they do real world research and understand the reality. Vietname produce equal quality table for example to Chinese factory one but with three times the cost and delivery takes 2 months longer because that country does not have transport infrastructure that is as developed and optimized for trade like the networks that exist in China. This is a microcosm of the trade issue.

China on the other hand does not depend as much on USA because if they tax, they hurt their own businesses too since most tools for business is Chinese made too. Machinery to hand tools. They can go broke buying German if they want to. Good luck to them ... please do that. This is like natural evolution. Reason all existing businesses that are successful use Chinese components even if supposedly much lower quality is because everyone else using other ones are dead.

I firmly believe these guys are white western agents OR anti China trolls pretending to be Viet or Indian or Japanese or whatever. They hide behind a different flag so 1. when they are abused in return it doesn't bother them at all and they do not care how dirty and insulting their language is. 2. They are just too dumb and are really embarrassing Viets/Indians and Asians in general. Probably Americans with racist problems or agents trying to prevent unity in Asia or mutual understanding. These people are specialists at dividing everyone else and making each other hate and fight. I have traveled and studied in west and worked in Australia too. I have never met a Vietnamese this stupid or hateful. Even in China, Japan, Cambodia, and Thailand where I have been in Asia you will never meet people like this. Only America and west has these types or maybe they work for troll factories. If Russia and China has troll factories, nothing stops USA from doing this. Maybe they did it first.

 

[Viet]

It's actually good for China when the leadership is pragmatic enough to put away their hubris, recognize their shortcomings and work on it, unlike Russia or Turkey.

But millions of chinese will fall into depression. They will blame Xi for having failed taking China to become the superpower in his lifetime.

I think Xi does not care. He can’t be dethroned. Looking from the bright side: the people in the West Pacific have one less bully.

 

[OIO]

That is not good!

Xi as supreme commander of country, government, party and army admits that China is inferior to the West. That will deal a heavy blow to the public sentiment among chinese.

If I was him, I would not do it.

most Chinese are pride of the progress of China and face the gap between West.

 

[sinait]

if we dont like foreign ownership , we just simply burn their companies and beat the foreigners and they cant do anything to us while CN is different, ur families will be raped again by US-Jap, but u r not allowed to retaliate

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allow 100 percent foreign ownership for American companies operating in China as a binding pledge that can trigger retaliation if left unfulfilled,

You just CONFIRMED what the Chinese members had been calling YOU.
UNCIVILIZED TREE SWINGING ANIMALS.
ONLY YOU and some others, not Vietnamese in general.
Learn from the Chinese how they conned the US.
They are admitting they got played by the Chinese all these years.

Hopefully Vietnam don't get manipulated by the US.
Have to respect the US, poisoned the Vietnamese with AGENT ORANGE but have someone like you still ENSLAVED TO THE US.
VERY GOOD BOY, Banana for you.
.

 

[Viva_Viet]

This isn't true. Not even in fake news central of internet areas did anyone quote those numbers. Economics and trade does not work the way it does in this guy's head. If USA tax all Chinese things 25% they better have alternatives that are affordable otherwise their businesses which all rely on Chinese goods will suffer profit loss and overhead increase. Many can go under and also China will tax Apple, GM, Ford, Microsoft, .... so on even more. The loss of income from China which is a huge part of those company income means they will either go broke or lose competitiveness to other Asian and European competitors in their field. Trade is natural order of balance. No ridiculous 25% tax. Even Trump gave up on his tax increase on China. This is reality and fact not made up bullshit like this guy. Trump wanted 15% but looks like he is big talker and unable to do because these guys are the same. Intelligence and understanding of high school teen but real world tackles them down to ground. Why did Trump give up on tax increase? He can't answer that but make up bullshit about secret agreements between China and USA that China will behave. Please hahahaha so so secret only those leaders know and this idiot knows.

Reality is Apple, GM, Ford, etc all remain so competitive because of huge income from making money off Chinese market. Chinese products do not depend on anyone. They are successful because there is nothing else in the world that can do the same for equal price or less. No one likes to use Chinese manufacturing but when they calculate and think about their own money in their pocket, they do real world research and understand the reality. Vietname produce equal quality table for example to Chinese factory one but with three times the cost and delivery takes 2 months longer because that country does not have transport infrastructure that is as developed and optimized for trade like the networks that exist in China. This is a microcosm of the trade issue.

China on the other hand does not depend as much on USA because if they tax, they hurt their own businesses too since most tools for business is Chinese made too. Machinery to hand tools. They can go broke buying German if they want to. Good luck to them ... please do that. This is like natural evolution. Reason all existing businesses that are successful use Chinese components even if supposedly much lower quality is because everyone else using other ones are dead.

I firmly believe these guys are white western agents OR anti China trolls pretending to be Viet or Indian or Japanese or whatever. They hide behind a different flag so 1. when they are abused in return it doesn't bother them at all and they do not care how dirty and insulting their language is. 2. They are just too dumb and are really embarrassing Viets/Indians and Asians in general. Probably Americans with racist problems or agents trying to prevent unity in Asia or mutual understanding. These people are specialists at dividing everyone else and making each other hate and fight. I have traveled and studied in west and worked in Australia too. I have never met a Vietnamese this stupid or hateful. Even in China, Japan, Cambodia, and Thailand where I have been in Asia you will never meet people like this. Only America and west has these types or maybe they work for troll factories. If Russia and China has troll factories, nothing stops USA from doing this. Maybe they did it first.

Blah blah blah..do u know why CN defence forum is dead ?? Bcs everyone realize that Cnese r liars.

Wt just 10% tariff, Xi has to cut Tax to keep CN economy survive, so its easy to see that CN cant survive wt 25 ++ % tariff.

Before opening factories in CN, US companies like GM, Ford are still Rich companies.Nothing change for them when leaving CN now. they r still rich.

Surrender and allow 100 percent foreign ownership for American companies operating in China( as a binding pledge that can trigger retaliation if left unfulfilled) is the only choice for stupid CN.

You just CONFIRMED what the Chinese members had been calling YOU.
UNCIVILIZED TREE SWINGING ANIMALS.
ONLY YOU and some others, not Vietnamese in general.
Learn from the Chinese how they conned the US.
They are admitting they got played by the Chinese all these years.

Hopefully Vietnam don't get manipulated by the US.
Have to respect the US, poisoned the Vietnamese with AGENT ORANGE but have someone like you still ENSLAVED TO THE US.
VERY GOOD BOY, Banana for you.
.

Yeah. Any problem when we beat stupid trouble maker foreigners like u in VN ?? See what happened in 2014 oil rig conflict ??

Dont make trouble in VN, make benefit instead.

 

[TheTruth]

dont u see that the growth return mainly tks for CN govt. cut the tax ?? What happen when the tariff is 25% and make tax cut become useless ??

Thats why, Xi start finding a reason for his humilitating loss. Xi start kneeing down and beg Trump not raising tariff to 25%

But Trump only agree when Xi knee down and let US take control of CN state own companies

Btw, stop mocking at our English, unlike CN licking US-Jap azz since 1979 (so Cnese have more peace time to learn English ) we only make friend wt US-EU after Soviet collapse in 1990, so we only know abt English few years ago.

China will tax all the Vietnamese whores going into China. $100 billion a year easy!

 

[sinait]

Blah blah blah..do u know why CN defence forum is dead ?? Bcs everyone realize that Cnese r liars.

Wt just 10% tariff, Xi has to cut Tax to keep CN economy survive, so its easy to see that CN cant survive wt 25 ++ % tariff.

Before opening factories in CN, US companies like GM, Ford are still Rich companies.Nothing change for them when leaving CN now. they r still rich.

Surrender and allow 100 percent foreign ownership for American companies operating in China( as a binding pledge that can trigger retaliation if left unfulfilled) is the only choice for stupid CN.

Yeah. Any problem when we beat stupid trouble maker foreigners like u in VN ?? See what happened in 2014 oil rig conflict ??

Dont make trouble in VN, make benefit instead.

Yeah. Any problem when we beat stupid trouble maker foreigners like u in VN ?? See what happened in 2014 oil rig conflict ??

@waz @Slav Defence
This poster is BOASTING about how they KILLED 21 persons in Vietnamese 2014 riots.
Does this forum condone such BARBARIC RHETORIC here.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/15/vietnam-anti-china-protests-oil-rig-dead-injured
At least 21 dead in Vietnam anti-China protests over oil rig
.

 

[Viva_Viet]

@waz @Slav Defence
This poster is BOASTING about how they KILLED 21 persons in Vietnamese 2014 riots.
Does this forum condone such BARBARIC RHETORIC here.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/15/vietnam-anti-china-protests-oil-rig-dead-injured
At least 21 dead in Vietnam anti-China protests over oil rig
.

Mod, pls stop stupid, crazy, helpless Cnese from spamming in Far east forum.No one wanna talk to them, but they keep spamming to make ppl angry.

Why Cnese can spam endlessly in Far east forum when they must post CN news on CN forum section ??

China will tax all the Vietnamese whores going into China. $100 billion a year easy!

Your whores r free and u also can bayonet them freely. Jap said that.