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During the state visit for Chinese President Hu Jintao, President Barack Obama should not only press President Hu on human rights, but should push a message about the importance of spreading democracy in China. If he does that, he may be surprised at what he will hear.

In September 2010, President Hu gave a speech in Hong Kong in which he called for new thinking about Chinese democracy. Said Hu:

"There is a need to … hold democratic elections according to the law; have democratic decision-making, democratic management, as well as democratic supervision; safeguard people's right to know, to participate, to express and to supervise."

His remarks elaborated on previous comments from Chinese premier Wen Jiabao, delivered in Shenzhen, the coastal free enterprise zone at the forefront of China's economic revolution. Wen said that without reforms of the political system, gains from reforms of the economic system would go down the drain. Political reform is necessary, said Wen, to sustain the nation's breakneck economic growth, including opportunities for citizens to criticise and monitor the government.

Wen's remarks led to speculation that Shenzhen, which set the pace for China's economic development, could soon become a "special political zone". Sino experts noted that a next step could be direct elections for the chiefs of the Special Economic Zone's six districts.

Yet when it comes to the subject of representative democracy in China, numerous sinologists continue to say, "Don't hold your breath." But the notion may not be as far-fetched – or as far off – as the cynics believe. For example, most westerners will be surprised to learn that China already holds more elections than any other nation in the world. Under the Organic Law of the Village Committees, all of China's approximately 1 million villages – home to some 600 million voters – hold elections every three years for local village committees.

Critics scoff at these elections and say they are manipulated by local Communist party officials. But Robert Benewick, a research professor at the University of Sussex, says that village elections have been growing more competitive, with more independent candidates and use of the secret ballot becoming more common. For those elections where there has been real competition, researchers claim to have evidence of positive impacts.

Yao Yang is a soft-spoken economist who met with me over lunch one day in Shanghai to discuss his research about the impact of local elections. In a study that looked at 40 villages over 16 years, his research found that the introduction of elections had led to increased spending on public services by 20%, while reducing spending for "administrative costs" – bureaucratic-speak for corruption – by 18%. Premier Wen has indicated that village elections might be extended to the next highest government level – township administrations – over the next few years.

China's modest experiments with local elections have been supplemented with exercises in what is known as "deliberative democracy". These take the shape of high-tech New England-style town hall meetings. China hired Stanford University professor James Fishkin to draft a randomly-selected, scientifically-representative sample of average citizens from the city of Zeguo to participate in an assembly using the internet, keypad polling devices and handheld computers to decide how their city should spend a $6m public works budget. The Zeguo exercise was considered hugely successful and has been replicated in other places.

Professor Yu Keping, who is deputy director of a Communist party institute and author of a prominent book called Democracy Is a Good Thing, is said to have the ear of President Hu. He and others have been nudging democracy forward in another direction that shows great promise – internal democracy within the ruling Communist party. Holding competitive elections for party posts already has begun at lower levels, with votes for provincial and national party congresses showing electoral slates with 15-30% more candidates than positions.

Given that the Communist party has a membership of 73 million people, such a "democratic vanguard" holds potential. If internal elections become widespread, the lines of ideological difference within elite circles might become more clearly drawn, which could further spur calls for some kind of representational structure. Rapid change in China already has resulted in a battle of ideas, pitting the coasts and cities against the countryside and inland provinces, and the rich against poor. Internal elections are increasingly seen by some as a healthy vehicle for airing these differences.

Most sinologists believe that if Chinese democracy continues to develop, it is unlikely to be an exact copy of the western model. Many are intrigued by the vision promoted by Confucian-inspired intellectuals like Jiang Qing, who have put forward an innovative proposal for a tricameral legislature. Legislators in one chamber would be selected based on merit and competency, and in the others based on elections of some kind. One elected chamber may be reserved only for Communist party members, the other for representatives elected by everyday Chinese. Such a tricameral legislature, its proponents believe, would better ensure that political decisions are made by more educated and enlightened representatives, instead of the rank populism of western-style elected factions.

It's intriguing to contemplate China evolving into some sort of innovative democratic experiment, combining tricameralism with all the high-tech features of deliberative democracy methods to mold a new type of political accountability, as well as separation of powers. Daniel Bell, a Canadian-born professor of political theory at Tsinghua University in Beijing, says China may be groping toward "a political model that works better than western-style democracy".

Former Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping was quoted in 1987 as saying there would be national elections in 50 years. So China's democratic trajectory may be ahead of schedule. President Obama should confidently engage President Hu on this most important subject. Who knows, Hu might even have some suggestions about how to improve American democracy?

China's tentative steps towards democracy | Steven Hill | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
 
Democracy within the Communist Party is going to come for sure. But China will not become a multiparty state. There's no need to: more than 2 is inefficient and 2 is the same as 1 (look at the US and Japan; USA both are Wall Street employees, in Japan the LDP ruled for 95% of modern Japan's history including before WW2).
 
One-tenth of adults are Communist Party members. Other people also have relatives、friends、classmates、teachers are Communist Party members.

So elections will only appear in grass roots.

There is no absolutely 100% fairness in the World. However, this is the best of all the possible solutions.
 
One-tenth of adults are Communist Party members. Other people also have relatives、friends、classmates、teachers are Communist Party members.

So elections will only appear in grass roots.

It is relatively more rare to know CPC members in Hong Kong, because the handover only happened in 1997. So it is quite unlikely to have parents or other family members who are in the party.

However, I have a lot of friends from the mainland, and many of them are party members. :tup:
 
the worst thing that can happen of course is in the course of becoming "democratic", we become a mafia state. Gorbachev and Yeltsin were the worst things to happen to Russia, and I'm so glad that we've been so far, able to identify these people and marginalize them.
 
the worst thing that can happen of course is in the course of becoming "democratic", we become a mafia state. Gorbachev and Yeltsin were the worst things to happen to Russia, and I'm so glad that we've been so far, able to identify these people and marginalize them.

Their failure is a good lesson for us. Otherwise, there would have many naive Chinese people fantasized about the Western Democracy.
 
Their failure is a good lesson for us. Otherwise, there would have many naive Chinese people fantasized about the Western Democracy.

Western Democracy is a tool that will be used to divide and conquer China in the future.

The day when China adopts Western Democracy it will be the same day that Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Hong Kong , Macao and Taiwan etc etc will declare Independence from China.
 
It doesn't matter whether or not a country is a democracy ,what we need is a good,strong and far-sighted leadership.:D:smitten:

Yup.

And he must have the guts to challenge foreign pressure.
 
Wen Jiabao truly understands the benefits of democracy for China, the kind of transition to democracy that's right for China, and the willpower to continue the political reforms.

Hu Jintao doesn't. All he brags about is how "democracy isn't right for China" and ignores the fact that change in Chinese economy must also go parallel with a change in political system. He is simply too short sighted.

We need to keep Wen Jiabao in power while getting rid of idiots like Hu Jintao and other members of the CCP.
 
I think we should move this thread to another sub-forum.
 
Western Democracy is a tool that will be used to divide and conquer China in the future.

The day when China adopts Western Democracy it will be the same day that Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Hong Kong , Macao and Taiwan etc etc will declare Independence from China.

Yep, Asia has already felt into the divide and conquer tactics of the West.
 
Hu and Wen are good duos, I thought they matched perfectly - Hu for formal business while Wen adds the human touch.
 
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