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This is a very interesting article from The Washington Post. It essentially pretty much covers everything that is discussed here in the PDF. I highlighted some part of it IMHO what I think really interesting. I did add some of my remarks where I just couldn't let it go !!! Do take into account it is The Washington Post, a newspaper from the United States.

A rather long article. Please Read on.....


China's strident tone raises concerns among Western governments, analysts
By John Pomfret
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, January 31, 2010



China's indignant reaction to the announcement of U.S. plans to sell weapons to Taiwan appears to be in keeping with a new triumphalist attitude from Beijing that is worrying governments and analysts across the globe.

From the Copenhagen climate change conference, to Internet freedom, to China's border with India, China observers have noticed a tough tone emanating from its government, its representatives and influential analysts from its state-funded think tanks.

Calling in U.S. Ambassador Jon Huntsman on Saturday, Chinese Vice Foreign Minister He Yafei said the United States would be responsible for "serious repercussions" if it did not reverse the decision to sell Taiwan $6.4 billion worth of helicopters, Patriot Advanced Capability-3 missiles, minesweepers and communications gear. The reaction came even though China has known for months about the planned deal, U.S. officials said.

"There has been a change in China's attitude," said Kenneth G. Lieberthal, a former senior National Security Council official who is currently at the Brookings Institution. "The Chinese find with startling speed that people have come to view them as a major global player. And that has fed a sense of confidence." Lieberthal said another factor for China's new tone is a sense that after two centuries of exploitation by the West, China is resuming its role as one of the great nations of the world.

This new posture has befuddled Western officials and analysts: Is it just China's tone that is changing or are its policies changing as well?

In a case in point, one senior U.S. official termed as unusual China's behavior at the December climate conference, during which China publicly reprimanded White House envoy Todd Stern, dispatched a Foreign Ministry functionary to an event for state leaders and fought strenuously against fixed targets for emission cuts in the developed world.

Another issue is Internet freedom and cybersecurity, highlighted by Google's recent threat to leave China unless the country stops its Web censorship. At China's request, that topic was left off the table at this year's World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Josef Ackermann, chief executive of Deutsche Bank AG and co-chairman of the event, told Bloomberg News. The forum ends today.

China dismisses concerns

Analysts say a combination of hubris and insecurity appears to be driving China's mood. On one hand, Beijing believes that the relative ease with which it skated over the global financial crisis underscores the superiority of its system and that China is not only rising but has arrived on the global stage -- much faster than anyone could have predicted. On the other, recent uprisings in the western regions of Tibet and Xinjiang have fed Chinese leaders' insecurity about their one-party state. As such, any perceived threat to their power is met with a backlash ( Fallstuff 2 cents , who doesn't ? ).

A spokesman for the Chinese Embassy in Washington said China's tone had not changed.

"China's positions on issues like arms sales to Taiwan and Tibet have been consistent and clear," Wang Baodong said, "as these issues bear on sovereignty and territorial integrity, which are closely related to Chinese core national interests."

The unease over China's new tone is shared by Europeans as well. "How Should Europe Respond to China's Strident Rise?" is the title of a new paper from the Center for European Reform. Just two years earlier, its author, institute director Charles Grant, had predicted that China and the European Union would shape the new world order.

"There is a real rethink going on about China in Europe," Grant said in an interview from Davos. "I don't think governments know what to do, but they know that their policies aren't working."


U.S. officials first began noticing the new Chinese attitude last year. Anecdotes range from the political to the personal.

At the World Economic Forum last year, Premier Wen Jiabao lambasted the United States for its economic mismanagement. A few weeks later, China's central bank questioned whether the dollar could continue to play its role as the international reserve currency.

And in another vignette, confirmed by several sources, a senior U.S. official involved in the economy hosted his Chinese counterpart, who then made a series of disparaging remarks about the bureau that the American ran. ( Fallstuff 2 cents," read on,what happens next is priceless !!") Later that night, the two were to dine at the American's house. The Chinese representatives called ahead, asking what was for dinner. They were informed that it was fish. "The director doesn't eat fish," one of them told his American interlocutor. "He wants steak. He says fish makes you weak." The menu was changed.

Tone with Europe, India

With Europe and India, China's strident tone has been even more apparent. In autumn 2008, China canceled a summit with the European Union after French President Nicolas Sarkozy met with the exiled Tibetan leader, the Dalai Lama. Before that, it had denounced German Chancellor Angela Merkel over her contacts with the Tibetan holy man. And in recent weeks, it has engaged in a heated exchange with British officials over its moves to block a broader deal agreement at the climate conference.

At the Chinese Embassy, Wang differed on the climate issue. "China is strongly behind the idea of meeting the issue of climate change," he said, "but at the same time we think that there are some people who want to confuse the situation, and we feel the need to try to let the rest of the world know our position clearly."

China also suspended ties with Denmark after its prime minister met the Dalai Lama and resumed them only after the Danish government issued a statement in December saying it would oppose Tibetan independence and consider Beijing's reaction before inviting him again.
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"The Europeans have competed to be China's favored friend," Grant said, "but then they get put in the doghouse one by one."

China's newfound toughness also played out in a renewed dispute with India over Beijing's claims to the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh, which borders Tibet. Last summer, China blocked the Asian Development Bank from making a $60 million loan for infrastructure improvements in the state. India then moved to fund the projects itself, prompting China to send more troops to the border.

David Finkelstein, a former U.S. Army officer at the Defense Intelligence Agency who now runs the China program at the Center for Naval Analyses, said the new tone underscores a shift in China. "On the external front," he said, "we will likely see a China that is more willing than in the past to proactively shape the external environment and international order rather than passively react to it."

An example would-be events that unfolded in December when 22 Chinese Muslims showed up in Cambodia and requested political asylum. China wanted to hold seven of them on suspicion of participating in anti-Chinese riots in the Xinjiang region in July.

Under intense pressure from Beijing, Cambodia sent the group home, despite protests from the United States. Two days after the group was repatriated, China signed 14 deals with Cambodia worth about $1 billion.

What the future holds

Whether this new bluster from Beijing presages tougher policies and actions in areas of direct concern to the United States is a key question, Lieberthal said. What China does after the United States sells Taiwan the weapons may provide some clues.

Even before the United States announced its plans Friday, at least six senior Chinese officials, including officers from the People's Liberation Army, had warned Washington against the sale.

Once the deal was announced, China's Defense Ministry said it was suspending a portion of the recently resumed military relations with the United States. China also announced that it would sanction the U.S. companies involved in the sale.

What happens next will be crucial. China quietly sanctioned several U.S. companies for participating in such weapons sales in the past. However, it would mark a major change if China makes the list public and includes, for example, Boeing, which sells billions of dollars worth of airplanes to China each year.

He, the vice foreign minister, warned that the sales would also affect China's cooperation with the United States on regional issues. Does that mean China will continue to block Western efforts to tighten sanctions on Iran? Bonnie S. Glaser, a China security analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said the answer will probably come soon.

France takes over the presidency of the U.N. Security Council on Monday and is expected to push for a rapid move in that direction.


Link: China's strident tone raises concerns among Western governments, analysts - washingtonpost.com
 
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territorial integrity~~ is one of the most important and serious subject even amount the ordinary Chinese people(Civilians)~~
Chinese overall population has been disappointed with how the government reacts to these issues in the past. And being too soft in terms of international diplomacy.
The Chinese people has been long waiting to see this happen, although the government might end up "giving up again".
These actions fit national conditions, and people would love to see it even if it ends up disastrous.
 
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On chinese forum, most chinese are very displeasure with CCP's foreign policy now. They think CCP's foreign policy is very soft now, and they call CCP rabbit bcoz his soft foreign policy. For US we are indeed weak to counter them, and we need wait. But for some other countries we are strong enough to deal with them.:china:
 
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They are concerned that their shameless, brutal, tyrannical ways are near the end.
 
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Westerners including the writer always think about China in their own ways and never care about the feelings of China's people.
China respects countries which respect China. We'll firmly retaliate any country which wants to seperate Taiwan, Tibet or Xinjian from China.

In China we all think our government is too kind to these countries which love to backstab China.

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Westerners including the writer always think about China in their own ways and never care about the feelings of China's people.
China respects countries which respect China. We'll firmly retaliate any country which wants to seperate Taiwan, Tibet or Xinjian from China.

In China we all think our government is too kind to these countries which love to backstab China.

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They don't care about anyone but themselves, not just Chinese.

Look at what's happening in Africa. Western countries would promise aid, get access to resources, then backtrack on their promise with reasons like "lack of democracy". They repeatedly pillaged Africa like this for 200 years, and when we went there and actually helped the Africans, they scream "colonialism".

Look at what happened in Haiti. First came the infamous French demand of 24 billion dollar repayment, then came years of U.S military invasion and relentless dumping of agricultural products destroyed Haiti's once thriving agriculture, forcing people into the cities, which made the tragic today possible.

Look at what happened in Venezuela. You can say all the things about Chavez but before him, the country was dirt poor despite having one of the largest oil reserves in the world. The U.S companies robbed Venezuela of its resources.

I guess even Argentina wasn't "white" enough that the Britain was shameless enough to claim its island.

Don't expect western countries to respect or care about anyone, for the same reason you don't trust a convict child rapist to babysit your kids.
 
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Who care?

At least around all neighborus of China, only India, Jap and S. Korea are US minions.

Only nationalists from these 3 states challenge China's sovereignty over Taiwan and Tibet!
 
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Westerners including the writer always think about China in their own ways and never care about the feelings of China's people.
China respects countries which respect China. We'll firmly retaliate any country which wants to seperate Taiwan, Tibet or Xinjian from China.

In China we all think our government is too kind to these countries which love to backstab China.

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I am wondering who "these countires" are?
I am also wondering what retaliation you propose?
 
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I am wondering who "these countires" are?
I am also wondering what retaliation you propose?

Countries support separatists of Taiwan, Xinjiang and Xizang. If you often read news, you can find these countries easily.

Retaliation depends on the degree of support and the power of China.Since China is fast developing, the retaliation will be stronger and strongger.

I can tell you that China's people are friendly to foreigners. So western countries please cherish the friendship of China and don't backstab us.

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Because USA is the solo superpower of the world while China is not.Iran is a nation which is looking for nuclear weapons to nuke some Christian countries while Taiwan is a nation looking to free itself from an ugly old dragon.I hope your are enough educated to understand the difference between the two nations paths. Since being a chinese, your path towards flower garden is always blinded while you can only visualize the thorny path which is no wonder to the world community.

How stupid you are! I can't imagine that you are educated.
Iran is a friendly country of India.Why do you Indians insult your friends?

Why don't US and its western servants impose sanction on Israel since Israel has nuclear weapons? Do you mean that only Christan countries can have nuclear weapons but Islamic countries can't?
 
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Because USA is the solo superpower of the world while China is not.Iran is a nation which is looking for nuclear weapons to nuke some Christian countries while Taiwan is a nation looking to free itself from an ugly old dragon.I hope your are enough educated to understand the difference between the two nations paths. Since being a chinese, your path towards flower garden is always blinded while you can only visualize the thorny path which is no wonder to the world community.

The only Christian country I can imaging Iran want to nuke is the US. I wonder what is the consequence of Iran if US is nuked by Iran.
 
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Because USA is the solo superpower of the world while China is not.Iran is a nation which is looking for nuclear weapons to nuke some Christian countries while Taiwan is a nation looking to free itself from an ugly old dragon.I hope your are enough educated to understand the difference between the two nations paths. Since being a chinese, your path towards flower garden is always blinded while you can only visualize the thorny path which is no wonder to the world community.



Solo superpower = Can do everthing they want

see see what situation US army in Iraq and Afghanistan :rofl:
 
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Because USA is the solo superpower of the world while China is not.Iran is a nation which is looking for nuclear weapons to nuke some Christian countries while Taiwan is a nation looking to free itself from an ugly old dragon.I hope your are enough educated to understand the difference between the two nations paths. Since being a chinese, your path towards flower garden is always blinded while you can only visualize the thorny path which is no wonder to the world community.

Don't put western = world

how evil western did in 1800s - mid-1900s on Asian and African?
 
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China Warns Obama Against Meeting with Dalai Lama

VOA News 02 February 2010

China has warned U.S. President Barack Obama not to meet with Tibet's spiritual leader the Dalai Lama, saying such a meeting would harm bilateral relations.

Zhu Weiqun, the head of the department in charge of talks with the Dalai Lama, told a news conference Tuesday that if Mr. Obama meets with the Dalai Lama, it would threaten trust and cooperation between China and the United States.

The warning follows a meeting between China and envoys of the Dalai Lama last week. The meeting ended with no compromise from Beijing on Tibet's status.

Two envoys of the Dalai Lama are expected to brief him on their talks, from which they returned largely empty-handed.

The two envoys are to meet with reporters after speaking with the Dalai Lama Tuesday. On Monday, they were to brief the Tibetan prime minister-in-exile, Kalon Tripa Samdhong Rinpoche.

A spokesman for the Tibetan government-in-exile Monday said it is encouraged that contacts with the Chinese have resumed.

However, Chinese state media said Beijing officials told the envoys during talks last week there will be no compromise on China's sovereignty over Tibet. The official Xinhua news agency quoted Du Qinglin, head of a department in charge of the talks, that there is no room for discussion, and no concessions will be made on autonomy for Tibet.

Talks between the two sides 15 months ago also achieved virtually nothing.

China Warns Obama Against Meeting with Dalai Lama | Asia | English
 
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