China's nuclear submarine building facilities expansion leaves India concerned, one facility can make 7 nuclear-powered submarines simultaneously

[K_Bin_W]

In my estimation, the real number could be as high as 3000 for China. I am certain even Pakistan has crossed 300 nuclear devices by now.
Remember Nasr tactical missiles using miniature warheads. How many of them are there to form a credible battleground deterrence! Which has forced India to give up their cold start strategy!!

Agreed.. west don't want to disturb the applecart

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Of course if has. The number of chinese nukes is too low. In case of they will use all the arsenal and not keep some in reserve.

They 300+ nukes similar to French arsenal according to various defense and security websites and who knows what is the actual size of their Nuke arsenal

It is data from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI).
Far from the 6000+ for USA or Russia

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These are just guesstimates at best

 

[BON PLAN]

SIPRI is just an estimate using publicly available sources. simply put, only the chinese government knows what the actual number of nukes china has. everyone else just guesses, and as a member of the P5 with domestic tech and sources of uranium, china is not obligated to show anyone anything nor release any nuclear information.

China and probably CIA.
in 2021 it's hard to hide 3000 nukes.... And is it usefull? Honestly, no need to destroy 10 times your ennemy. A single one is more than enough. This is why I don't understand USA and Russia with 6000 nukes : 1000 modern ones (ie no free fall bomb as B61...) seems more potent.

 

[applesauce]

China and probably CIA.
in 2021 it's hard to hide 3000 nukes.... And is it usefull? Honestly, no need to destroy 10 times your ennemy. A single one is more than enough. This is why I don't understand USA and Russia with 6000 nukes : 1000 modern ones (ie no free fall bomb as B61...) seems more potent.

indeed, overkill is not really useful when we're talking about nuclear war. I think 1000 with modern delivery method/equipment is fine as well

 

[52051]

China and probably CIA.
in 2021 it's hard to hide 3000 nukes.... And is it usefull? Honestly, no need to destroy 10 times your ennemy. A single one is more than enough. This is why I don't understand USA and Russia with 6000 nukes : 1000 modern ones (ie no free fall bomb as B61...) seems more potent.

The 300 number is simply laughable, It is not very hard to hide for such a large country like China with every tech in place, that needed to build nuclear weapons.

Actually during the last year when GlobalTimes's editorial Hu Xijin call for expand China's nuclear arsenal greatly, one key person who criticize him, Professor Yang, a top of rank government nuclear arms control expert from China, openly wrote an article criticize Hu, and guess what, one of his argument was "Just because the West claimed China has only that many nuclear warheads does not mean China do only have that many".

And besides, for a country like China, who account for about 50% of the entire world heavy industry manufacturing capacity now, its not hard to build thousands of nuclear warheads, if not more, in very short period of time (I mean, within months).

Guess what, in the cold war era, even the US, can make 6,000 nuclear bombs in a year, with 1950s era tech and 1950s era economy.

 

[Super Falcon]

Pak navy should buy atleast two nuke subs from china to keep indian aggressian at sea bay we need a second strike capability with dedicated striking capabilities of ballistic missiles

 

[tower9]

The 300 number is simply laughable, It is not very hard to hide for such a large country like China with every tech in place, that needed to build nuclear weapons.

Actually during the last year when GlobalTimes's editorial Hu Xijin call for expand China's nuclear arsenal greatly, one key person who criticize him, Professor Yang, a top of rank government nuclear arms control expert from China, openly wrote an article criticize Hu, and guess what, one of his argument was "Just because the West claimed China has only that many nuclear warheads does not mean China do only have that many".

And besides, for a country like China, who account for about 50% of the entire world heavy industry manufacturing capacity now, its not hard to build thousands of nuclear warheads, if not more, in very short period of time (I mean, within months).

Guess what, in the cold war era, even the US, can make 6,000 nuclear bombs in a year, with 1950s era tech and 1950s era economy.

China can make 20,000 nukes a year if it wanted to and no other country can even match 1/2 of China’s industrial output.

 

[BON PLAN]

The 300 number is simply laughable, It is not very hard to hide for such a large country like China with every tech in place, that needed to build nuclear weapons.

Actually during the last year when GlobalTimes's editorial Hu Xijin call for expand China's nuclear arsenal greatly, one key person who criticize him, Professor Yang, a top of rank government nuclear arms control expert from China, openly wrote an article criticize Hu, and guess what, one of his argument was "Just because the West claimed China has only that many nuclear warheads does not mean China do only have that many".

And besides, for a country like China, who account for about 50% of the entire world heavy industry manufacturing capacity now, its not hard to build thousands of nuclear warheads, if not more, in very short period of time (I mean, within months).

Guess what, in the cold war era, even the US, can make 6,000 nuclear bombs in a year, with 1950s era tech and 1950s era economy.

Technically your are right. But is it so potent to have so many nukes ?
Just imagine the use of only half this quantity on USA (to keep the other half in "reserve"). Even with 50% failure, it's 75 of the more important US targets destroyed !!! the main cities, the main ports, the main military targets, the country knock out for years.

 

[Beidou2020]

China is not short of money, technology, nuclear weapons materials, centrifuges and IQ. Why does everyone think that China has not enough nuclear weapons?

CPC thought 300 warheads was enough until they realised the psychopathic mindset of the Americans where they don’t care how many millions of people they lose in war. Nuclear blackmail against China is going on right now. This is why CPC suddenly decided to increase the number of warheads.

 

[BON PLAN]

India should be providing free xxx dolls to it’s citizen to prevent sexual abuse of the cows and dogs instead of worry about Chinese nuclear subs.

I was ban from this site writing the tenth.... (even with a smile).

Do the moderators apply the same severity. Let's see. (I have a big doubt).

 

[K_Bin_W]

CPC thought 300 warheads was enough until they realised the psychopathic mindset of the Americans where they don’t care how many millions of people they lose in war. Nuclear blackmail against China is going on right now. This is why CPC suddenly decided to increase the number of warheads.

China should have 2nd strike capability with a guarantee that US will cease to exist should it gets a little g... khujali with China.

 

[52051]

Technically your are right. But is it so potent to have so many nukes ?
Just imagine the use of only half this quantity on USA (to keep the other half in "reserve"). Even with 50% failure, it's 75 of the more important US targets destroyed !!! the main cities, the main ports, the main military targets, the country knock out for years.

Well, you have VASTLY overestimated the power of nuclear weapons.

 

[BON PLAN]

Well, you have VASTLY overestimated the power of nuclear weapons.

Maybe.
But when you see the effect of a poor 15-20kt on two japanese city, it's possible to imagine those of a 200 or 300kt warhead (or 1Mt) on a big city, a harbour, an industrial zone.
Add to that the shock for the civilian people, radiation for decades, in some area the lack of water supply, of electricity, of network....
75 warheads on a large country as USA is a hard deal.

 

[52051]

Maybe.
But when you see the effect of a poor 15-20kt on two japanese city, it's possible to imagine those of a 200 or 300kt warhead (or 1Mt) on a big city, a harbour, an industrial zone.
Add to that the shock for the civilian people, radiation for decades, in some area the lack of water supply, of electricity, of network....
75 warheads on a large country as USA is a hard deal.

The Japanese cities destroyed by nuke bombs are mostly built by inflammable wood structure, unlike any modern cities today.

Actually it will take about 30 nuclear warheads, with 500 kT yielding each, to destroy a city of the size of New York today.

And even in such case, during the nuclear strike, if you could hide in the underground structure (like underground parking lot, tube station and underground defense works) your rate of survival is pretty high. And if you have enough supplies to make you remain there for about 2-3 weeks, then after that you can go out, the remaining radiation level (dont assume that should be similiar to the level of radiation from the accident of reactors, which are totally different) will reduce to basically harmless for human.

 

[MajesticPug]

Lol.. Some day you will see Ghana shows its concerns on US navy buildup

Well said. As soon as I saw the headline, why would India be concerned? Self-elevating to an elite power status that has 'national interests' in everything everyone does or don't do.