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China’s new nuclear submarine missiles expand range in US: analysts

continue invest in EU (France and Germany) to fund their growth while poor UK can continue to rot without fresh investment
What are you on about? Since when does the UK depends on China for survival? Seriously some of you guys on here are so ultra nationalistic that you just say things that are so unreasonable just to make your country look good or as you claim "defend" your country. That's something i noticed in here, be it Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis, Turkish, Iranian , etc etc. Very few members here don't fall under this category and can look at things from a more neutral perspective. It's sad that such a forum is polluted by constant nationalistic rants with no substance.
 
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building a naval assets and deploying it is two different things and no more foolish than China when it comes to naval matters

China completed the first Type 091 SSBN in 1970 and 51 years later China still hasn't got the ability to conduct a deterrence patrol

the Type 91 never did it and the Type 094 is still "testing"

same goes for the Carriers, CV16 in 10 years never left close from Chinese mainland due to lack of confidence and lack of capability

Type 071 LPD was commissioned almost 15 years ago and never has it conducted a true over the horizon amphibious operations

meanwhile UK first ever carrier for QE Class deployment they will cover over 26,000 miles more than combined sea milage than CV16 and CV17 over 10 years
I do know that their nuclear submarines don't do long global patrols as often as US, british or Russian nuke subs but i do remember they did deploy one in Indian ocean couple years ago.
As for their carriers doing the same is another issue altogether. Since carriers are more sensitive and strategic, plus they don't have much military bases overseas unlike US/Britain , Russia it even France. So they lag behind a lot in this aspect.
We can also argue that Indian aircraft carriers have never been deployed on a global patrol/amphibious operation around the globe despite operating carriers (albeit british ones) way before the Chinese. They are constrained by similar issues i suppose.
 
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Hold your horses, my friend, you don't threaten the US or Russia with Nukes, they both have enough to make sure if they are gone so is everyone else, and this is also the case with China.
us and china will take each other out earth will go back to time where jesus will come down
 
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China’s newly commissioned nuclear-powered submarine is armed with the country’s most powerful submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) capable of hitting the US mainland, according to a military source and analysts.

The Type 094A, or Jin-class nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine (SSBN), was presented last Friday as part of the celebration to mark the 72nd anniversary of the PLA Navy. It was capable of firing the JL-3, or Julang (Big Wave) SLBM with a range over 10,000km (6,200 miles), a source close to the navy said.

“The Type 094A is an upgraded version of the Type 094 that overcame one of the key problems – noise – by improving hydrokinetic and turbulent systems, allowing it to carry the more powerful JL-3,” said the source, who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject.

“Before the upgrade, the submarine was armed with the inferior JL-2 that could only hit the northeast United States, but now it’s able to cover the whole American continent.”

According to Forbes, before entering striking distance of the continental United States, the Type 094A subs would have to slip past a cordon of US military bases in the Pacific dubbed the first island chain – exposing the subs to detection and attack by American P-8 anti-sub patrol planes, surface warships and other undersea reconnaissance capabilities.

Chinese submarines have been dogged by the problem of being too noisy and easy to detect but that has largely been remedied in recent years by Chinese naval engineer Rear Admiral Ma Weiming, who is now taking the lead in a cutting-edge propulsion technology, according to state media.

The JL-3 is able to deliver the same multiple warheads, including nuclear warheads like the JL-2 does, the source added without giving more detail.

Each JL-2 missile can be armed with either a single megaton-yield warhead 67 times more powerful than the Little Boy bomb dropped on Hiroshima – or three to eight smaller multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles (MIRVs) that can each strike different targets, according to a Forbes report in May last year.

Macau-based military expert Antony Wong Tong said the news indicated that some technical breakthroughs had been achieved to make the JL-2 fit the silos of the Type 094A.

“The original design and size of the JL-3 should be adjusted, but those changes do not reduce its firepower and range – a significant breakthrough,” Wong said.

Former PLA instructor Song Zhongping did not say what type of SLBM the Type 094A was armed with, but said it would boost China’s second-strike capability – its ability to retaliate after a nuclear strike.

“The new SLBM with MIRVs with a firing range over 10,000km is the basic technical requirement for an upgraded Type 094 SSBN to cause nuclear deterrence,” he said. “China promises not to use a nuke first but a powerful SSBN fleet will help the PLA strengthen their second-strike power against rivals.”

China has six Type 094 and Type 094A SSBNs and plans to build a further two to replace the Type 092 SSBNs, according to the source.

Sources said last year that the PLA planned to arm the Type 096 submarine with JL-3 missiles, a process that could take years to complete.

Each Type 094 submarine is able to carry 16 JL-3 missiles, but the upgraded Type 096 could carry 24 JL-3s, according to a Pentagon report on China’s military capabilities.

The Type 094A was one of the three new warships put into service on the same day. The others were the Type 075 amphibious helicopter assault ship and the Type 055 Renhai-class guided missile cruiser.

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Our first strike weapon is in place! A massive salvo from all seven Type 094 parked off Californian coast and the Americans won't know what hit them!
just keep it as a deterrent for last resort use bro...this can set off a chain reaction that can make most creatures on this planet extinct including the human race (ESPECIALLY the human race). even the u.s. knows this which is why, they have never sent their ballistic missile subs anywhere near China. they'll send carriers, they'll send destroyers, they'll send other subs, they'll even send the pompeo in a dancing clown suit but they'll never send the nuclear missile subs cuz they know China monitors all the waters including the pacific with microscope, they'll never push it to the point of a nuclear exchange...China won't either.
 
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just keep it as a deterrent for last resort use bro...this can set off a chain reaction that can make most creatures on this planet extinct including the human race (ESPECIALLY the human race). even the u.s. knows this which is why, they have never sent their ballistic missile subs anywhere near China. they'll send carriers, they'll send destroyers, they'll send other subs, they'll even send the pompeo in a dancing clown suit but they'll never send the nuclear missile subs cuz they know China monitors all the waters including the pacific with microscope, they'll never push it to the point of a nuclear exchange...China won't either.

What??? Are you out of your mind.. Fuk the human race.. Anyone will protect their sovereignty
 
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What??? Are you out of your mind.. Fuk the human race.. Anyone will protect their sovereignty
erm...you need the human race to exist to have sovereignty in the first place...you do realize that right? or did you somehow miss that "human race's existence" variable in the sovereignty equation?
 
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erm...you need the human race to exist to have sovereignty in the first place...you do realize that right? or did you somehow miss that "human race's existence" variable in the sovereignty equation?

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You heard me right in the first place. I am calm about what I said
 
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For those who think a system like the DF-21D or Type 094 could be seriously deployed and relied upon to defend a nation without such testing...well, it is just a ludicrous.notion.

The Chinese have a Type 094 and DF-21D program. And they certainly have some missiles deployed. But they have never carried out such a full-up, live test against targets at sea.

If you're u are still not convinced ASBM works, check out the link below from USN admiral Philip Davidson own admitted that USN witness China DF-21D scored a bull eye hit on a moving ship in exercise last year.

 
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If you're u are still not convinced ASBM works, check out the link below from USN admiral Philip Davidson own admitted that USN witness China DF-21D scored a bull eye hit on a moving ship in exercise last year.


source ?

US + UK have conducted 178th Trident test since 1989

how many JL3? if no then it means the system is not validated

it is then no wonder why China is too afraid to conduct deterrence missions

178th trident test

 
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source ?

US + UK have conducted 178th Trident test since 1989

how many JL3? if no then it means the system is not validated

it is then no wonder why China is too afraid to conduct deterrence missions

178th trident test

Are u in denial? From horse mouth of USN admiral Philip Davidson that admit DF-21D works as advertised ,reported by bloomberg. You mean american media will fabricate american admiral words? He is american not Chinese. Get your facts, right!.


Just becos you are not updated by latest military news doesn't mean Chinese weapon don't work as we claimed.
 
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Are u in denial? From horse mouth of USN admiral Philip Davidson that admit DF-21D works as advertised ,reported by bloomberg. You mean american media will fabricate american admiral words? He is american not Chinese. Get your facts, right!.

numbers and source for JL3 ?

no wonder its not a validated system

 
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numbers and source for JL3 ?

no wonder its not a validated system

It took me 3 second from google search to get this validation. Continue your denial that China can't do any jack on US. China mutual destruction with US is gurantee unless US wants death. There is no way american can win a war with China without self destruction.

 
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It took me 3 second from google search to get this validation. Continue your denial that China can't do any jack on US. China mutual destruction with US is gurantee unless US wants death. There is no way american can win a war with China without self destruction.


then give me a list of all JL3 Tests?

so there is ZERO test to validate those systems

so they are basically floating junks to show youtube videos for domestic consumption
 
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