What's new

China's moment of truth

F-22Raptor

ELITE MEMBER
Joined
Jun 19, 2014
Messages
16,980
Reaction score
3
Country
United States
Location
United States
It takes a trade war for China to face its moment of truth. Before the U.S.-China trade war escalated from a skirmish to a full-frontal clash, the conventional wisdom was that China's closed one-party regime was much better positioned to withstand the political fallout from a trade war than America's fissiparous democracy.

The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) did not have to worry about elections, it was said. By contrast, Donald Trump's Republican Party would likely suffer from a backlash from voters hurt by Chinese retaliations.

Unfortunately for President Xi Jinping, such wisdom seems wrong. Even though Chinese trade retaliations against the U.S. have concentrated pain on the heart of Trumpland, the American farm belt in particular, the adverse impact on Trump is muted at best. Except for the faint complaints of a few Republicans, Trump's party has largely stuck by him. Indeed, the unfolding U.S.-China trade war has barely registered on America's political radar screen ahead of the fall mid-term elections.


But the story in China is entirely different. Its leaders may not have to run for office, but they are still held accountable by both public opinion and the fierce rivalry within the regime. The trade war with the U.S., to almost everybody's surprise, has triggered a heated but healthy debate on Chinese foreign and domestic policies under Xi's leadership.

On the surface, much of the debate revolves around the wisdom of responding in kind to Trump's trade war. Many in China are rightfully concerned that their country would end up much worse off in a full-blown war than the U.S. But underneath such economic worries is a comprehensive critique of President Xi's foreign policy since he assumed power in late 2012. Instead of blaming Trump solely for initiating the trade war, Xi's critics, both in society and within the party, attribute the trade war to the collapse of the foundations of U.S.-China relations caused by his expansive foreign policy in the last five years.

Directionally, they point to Xi's abandonment of Deng Xiaoping's grand strategy of "keeping international low profile" and "shying away from leadership" as the source of China's current external woes. In particular, Xi's signature foreign policy initiatives, such as the $1 trillion Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), island-building in the South China Sea, and strategic partnership with Russia, are now seen as too costly, ambitious, risky and confrontational. In hindsight, a growing consensus among Chinese elites is that the totality of these policies has fundamentally altered how the West in general, and the U.S. in particular, perceives China's rise. If the U.S. had an agnostic view on whether a powerful China constitutes a threat to its global leadership and interests, that has now changed entirely. The shift in Chinese grand strategy under Xi has clarified Washington's strategic thinking about China -- and directly led to the end of its long-standing engagement policy toward Beijing.

The realization that the trade war merely presages a long-term Sino-American strategic conflict appears to have shocked Chinese political and economic elites. It has finally dawned on them that the "golden age" of Chinese development is over. If Sino-American relations continue to spiral downward, the "China dream" championed by Xi would turn into a geopolitical nightmare. Notably, critics of Xi refer to the famous question Deng asked four decades ago: Why have America's friends grown rich but its enemies have grown poor? The implication is devastatingly clear -- by making China an adversary of the U.S., Beijing's current foreign policy risks dooming its economic future.

Inevitably, such soul-searching about Chinese foreign policy has led to a full reexamination of Xi's domestic record. Here his critics have also found plenty to decry.

The overall sense is that China has regressed alarmingly since 2013. The domestic political strategy devised by Deng and continued by his immediate two successors, Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao, has been replaced with an unusual combination of neo-Maoism and neo-Stalinism. Official ideological orthodox has been reinforced. The personality cult of the dominant leader, a lethal threat to the CCP and its elites that Deng and his colleagues tried hard to eradicate, has been revived by sycophants eager to curry favor with Xi, who has done little to discourage them. The failure to designate a successor to Xi at the 19th party congress last October and the abolition of presidential term limit at the National People's Congress (NPC) session last March only serve to confirm that Xi has set himself up for open-ended rule. In the meantime, Xi's selective anti-corruption campaign has shattered the personal security pact among the ruling elites and upended the delicate balance of power at the apex of the regime that was crucial to managing risks and avoiding catastrophic mistakes in China's one-party state.

The implicit social contract between the CCP and the Chinese people has also been shredded in the last five years. During most of the post-Mao era, the CCP has largely maintained a defensive posture to ensure its political monopoly. It reacted only to overt challenge to its authority and allowed ever-expanding public space and personal freedom. But this trend was reversed in 2013. Censorship, repression, and surveillance have intensified. Fear has been reintroduced into Chinese society.

Such criticisms of Xi's domestic policies might sound hollow if this giant political leap backward had been accompanied by significant and real progress in economic reform. A key rationale for concentrating power in the hands of a strongman is that this would make painful reforms possible. Sadly, this has not happened. Despite rolling out an ambitious blueprint of reform in late 2013, Xi's administration has recorded few achievements. Instead, there is backsliding on several fronts. According to IMF, China's nonfinancial sector debt to gross domestic product, a key measure of leverage, was 178% in 2012 but rose to an estimated 251% by 2017, evidence of the continuation of an unsustainable policy of credit-fueled economic growth. Instead of privatization, state-owned enterprises have been strengthened through mega-merges, protection of their monopoly profits, and other munificent privileges. Massive state subsidies have been planned to supercharge a state-directed industrial policy designed to supplant the West's technological dominance. Newly imposed controls have also halted China's movement toward capital account liberalization while crackdown on tycoons has raised worries about the security of private property under a regime unchecked by the rule of law.

The potency of this litany of criticisms cannot be underestimated. If nothing else, they sound the alarm that China is headed in a disastrously wrong direction.

But it would be premature to conclude that these criticisms have fatally weakened Xi's authority. His image as a strong, visionary and capable leader has certainly been damaged. Yet nobody should write his political obituary. His loyalists are in control of the most critical organs of the Chinese party-state -- the military, the anti-corruption agency, the propaganda department and the organization department. No plausible replacement is waiting in the wings to take over.

Based on historical experience, dictatorships have weak built-in capacities for self-correcting their mistakes, especially those made by their top leaders.

Today, Xi's challenge is to prove his critics -- and historical experience -- wrong. He can try to convince them that China's setbacks are temporary and his strategy will work and deliver huge long-term benefits. Alternatively, he can beat a quick but quiet strategic retreat and return to the cautious and moderate policies pursued by his predecessors.

Either way, this is a moment of truth, both for Xi and China.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/China-s-moment-of-truth
 
moment of truth..

china still haven't use their big guns yet in this trade war

so far, all tariffs on china is equally hit back at them

US trade deficit with china is record high.. lol. what happened to they don't need chinese junks? buy americans, em tough talks and tariffs?

secretly reducing tariffs on some chinese products... hahaha.. so stronk!

unilaterally started trade war on everyone and threatened to quit the WTO. now begging the EU to put it on hold and crawling back to WTO for help. yep, can't fight on their own just like all their leaders before, crying to mommy and asking others to join 'em to fight the big bad mighty dragon. nothing new here..

more barking..

what happened to 'trade war is easy to win' ?

paper tiger

:lol:
 
Last edited:
It takes a trade war for China to face its moment of truth. Before the U.S.-China trade war escalated from a skirmish to a full-frontal clash, the conventional wisdom was that China's closed one-party regime was much better positioned to withstand the political fallout from a trade war than America's fissiparous democracy.

The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) did not have to worry about elections, it was said. By contrast, Donald Trump's Republican Party would likely suffer from a backlash from voters hurt by Chinese retaliations.

Unfortunately for President Xi Jinping, such wisdom seems wrong. Even though Chinese trade retaliations against the U.S. have concentrated pain on the heart of Trumpland, the American farm belt in particular, the adverse impact on Trump is muted at best. Except for the faint complaints of a few Republicans, Trump's party has largely stuck by him. Indeed, the unfolding U.S.-China trade war has barely registered on America's political radar screen ahead of the fall mid-term elections.


But the story in China is entirely different. Its leaders may not have to run for office, but they are still held accountable by both public opinion and the fierce rivalry within the regime. The trade war with the U.S., to almost everybody's surprise, has triggered a heated but healthy debate on Chinese foreign and domestic policies under Xi's leadership.

On the surface, much of the debate revolves around the wisdom of responding in kind to Trump's trade war. Many in China are rightfully concerned that their country would end up much worse off in a full-blown war than the U.S. But underneath such economic worries is a comprehensive critique of President Xi's foreign policy since he assumed power in late 2012. Instead of blaming Trump solely for initiating the trade war, Xi's critics, both in society and within the party, attribute the trade war to the collapse of the foundations of U.S.-China relations caused by his expansive foreign policy in the last five years.

Directionally, they point to Xi's abandonment of Deng Xiaoping's grand strategy of "keeping international low profile" and "shying away from leadership" as the source of China's current external woes. In particular, Xi's signature foreign policy initiatives, such as the $1 trillion Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), island-building in the South China Sea, and strategic partnership with Russia, are now seen as too costly, ambitious, risky and confrontational. In hindsight, a growing consensus among Chinese elites is that the totality of these policies has fundamentally altered how the West in general, and the U.S. in particular, perceives China's rise. If the U.S. had an agnostic view on whether a powerful China constitutes a threat to its global leadership and interests, that has now changed entirely. The shift in Chinese grand strategy under Xi has clarified Washington's strategic thinking about China -- and directly led to the end of its long-standing engagement policy toward Beijing.

The realization that the trade war merely presages a long-term Sino-American strategic conflict appears to have shocked Chinese political and economic elites. It has finally dawned on them that the "golden age" of Chinese development is over. If Sino-American relations continue to spiral downward, the "China dream" championed by Xi would turn into a geopolitical nightmare. Notably, critics of Xi refer to the famous question Deng asked four decades ago: Why have America's friends grown rich but its enemies have grown poor? The implication is devastatingly clear -- by making China an adversary of the U.S., Beijing's current foreign policy risks dooming its economic future.

Inevitably, such soul-searching about Chinese foreign policy has led to a full reexamination of Xi's domestic record. Here his critics have also found plenty to decry.

The overall sense is that China has regressed alarmingly since 2013. The domestic political strategy devised by Deng and continued by his immediate two successors, Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao, has been replaced with an unusual combination of neo-Maoism and neo-Stalinism. Official ideological orthodox has been reinforced. The personality cult of the dominant leader, a lethal threat to the CCP and its elites that Deng and his colleagues tried hard to eradicate, has been revived by sycophants eager to curry favor with Xi, who has done little to discourage them. The failure to designate a successor to Xi at the 19th party congress last October and the abolition of presidential term limit at the National People's Congress (NPC) session last March only serve to confirm that Xi has set himself up for open-ended rule. In the meantime, Xi's selective anti-corruption campaign has shattered the personal security pact among the ruling elites and upended the delicate balance of power at the apex of the regime that was crucial to managing risks and avoiding catastrophic mistakes in China's one-party state.

The implicit social contract between the CCP and the Chinese people has also been shredded in the last five years. During most of the post-Mao era, the CCP has largely maintained a defensive posture to ensure its political monopoly. It reacted only to overt challenge to its authority and allowed ever-expanding public space and personal freedom. But this trend was reversed in 2013. Censorship, repression, and surveillance have intensified. Fear has been reintroduced into Chinese society.

Such criticisms of Xi's domestic policies might sound hollow if this giant political leap backward had been accompanied by significant and real progress in economic reform. A key rationale for concentrating power in the hands of a strongman is that this would make painful reforms possible. Sadly, this has not happened. Despite rolling out an ambitious blueprint of reform in late 2013, Xi's administration has recorded few achievements. Instead, there is backsliding on several fronts. According to IMF, China's nonfinancial sector debt to gross domestic product, a key measure of leverage, was 178% in 2012 but rose to an estimated 251% by 2017, evidence of the continuation of an unsustainable policy of credit-fueled economic growth. Instead of privatization, state-owned enterprises have been strengthened through mega-merges, protection of their monopoly profits, and other munificent privileges. Massive state subsidies have been planned to supercharge a state-directed industrial policy designed to supplant the West's technological dominance. Newly imposed controls have also halted China's movement toward capital account liberalization while crackdown on tycoons has raised worries about the security of private property under a regime unchecked by the rule of law.

The potency of this litany of criticisms cannot be underestimated. If nothing else, they sound the alarm that China is headed in a disastrously wrong direction.

But it would be premature to conclude that these criticisms have fatally weakened Xi's authority. His image as a strong, visionary and capable leader has certainly been damaged. Yet nobody should write his political obituary. His loyalists are in control of the most critical organs of the Chinese party-state -- the military, the anti-corruption agency, the propaganda department and the organization department. No plausible replacement is waiting in the wings to take over.

Based on historical experience, dictatorships have weak built-in capacities for self-correcting their mistakes, especially those made by their top leaders.

Today, Xi's challenge is to prove his critics -- and historical experience -- wrong. He can try to convince them that China's setbacks are temporary and his strategy will work and deliver huge long-term benefits. Alternatively, he can beat a quick but quiet strategic retreat and return to the cautious and moderate policies pursued by his predecessors.

Either way, this is a moment of truth, both for Xi and China.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/China-s-moment-of-truth

This article exhibits a "one sided" approach and analysis - "China's Moment of Truth".

As we understand; in the current economic climate, "The Moment of Truth" is NOT about China - actually! it is about US, ….. which has a budget deficit, topping 21-trillion $.

Any amount of duties on Chinese (and European combined) goods will not be able to fill this gap.

More that US will do this, more friends it will loose.

There is no political or social unrest in China …. it is all wishful thinking of US and West.

US really needs to stop fighting wars all around the world if it really wants to save money to spend inside the US (… and we know that will not happen).
 
moment of truth..

china still haven't use their big guns yet in this trade war

so far, all tariffs on china is equally hit back at them

US trade deficit with china is record high.. lol. what happen to they don't need chinese junks? buy americans, em tough talks and tariffs?

secretly reducing tariffs on some chinese products... hahaha.. so stronk!

unilaterally started trade war on everyone and threatened to quit the WTO. now begging the EU to put it on hold and crawling back to WTO for help. yep, can't fight on their own just like all their leaders before, crying to mommy and asking others to join 'em to fight the big bad mighty dragon. nothing new here..

more barking..

what happen to 'trade war is easy to win' ?

paper tiger

:lol:
I'm quite enjoying the trade war but do hope it escalate further. I like Trump to announce 40 % tariffs on all goods from China.
 
moment of truth..

china still haven't use their big guns yet in this trade war

so far, all tariffs on china is equally hit back at them

US trade deficit with china is record high.. lol. what happen to they don't need chinese junks? buy americans, em tough talks and tariffs?

secretly reducing tariffs on some chinese products... hahaha.. so stronk!

unilaterally started trade war on everyone and threatened to quit the WTO. now begging the EU to put it on hold and crawling back to WTO for help. yep, can't fight on their own just like all their leaders before, crying to mommy and asking others to join 'em to fight the big bad mighty dragon. nothing new here..

more barking..

what happen to 'trade war is easy to win' ?

paper tiger

:lol:
Since US President Barack Obama can claim that the United States won the Korean War, I believe that Trump’s claim that the United States has won a trade war is also very reasonable.
The logic of the Americans: Regardless of whether the United States wins a war or not, it must declare that the United States has won because the United States cannot admit defeat.

US President: The Americans won the Korean War, the Americans won the Vietnam War, and the Americans won.... Wait a minute, I forgot my words and let us re-record it again.
 
It takes a trade war for China to face its moment of truth. Before the U.S.-China trade war escalated from a skirmish to a full-frontal clash, the conventional wisdom was that China's closed one-party regime was much better positioned to withstand the political fallout from a trade war than America's fissiparous democracy.

The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) did not have to worry about elections, it was said. By contrast, Donald Trump's Republican Party would likely suffer from a backlash from voters hurt by Chinese retaliations.

Unfortunately for President Xi Jinping, such wisdom seems wrong. Even though Chinese trade retaliations against the U.S. have concentrated pain on the heart of Trumpland, the American farm belt in particular, the adverse impact on Trump is muted at best. Except for the faint complaints of a few Republicans, Trump's party has largely stuck by him. Indeed, the unfolding U.S.-China trade war has barely registered on America's political radar screen ahead of the fall mid-term elections.


But the story in China is entirely different. Its leaders may not have to run for office, but they are still held accountable by both public opinion and the fierce rivalry within the regime. The trade war with the U.S., to almost everybody's surprise, has triggered a heated but healthy debate on Chinese foreign and domestic policies under Xi's leadership.

On the surface, much of the debate revolves around the wisdom of responding in kind to Trump's trade war. Many in China are rightfully concerned that their country would end up much worse off in a full-blown war than the U.S. But underneath such economic worries is a comprehensive critique of President Xi's foreign policy since he assumed power in late 2012. Instead of blaming Trump solely for initiating the trade war, Xi's critics, both in society and within the party, attribute the trade war to the collapse of the foundations of U.S.-China relations caused by his expansive foreign policy in the last five years.

Directionally, they point to Xi's abandonment of Deng Xiaoping's grand strategy of "keeping international low profile" and "shying away from leadership" as the source of China's current external woes. In particular, Xi's signature foreign policy initiatives, such as the $1 trillion Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), island-building in the South China Sea, and strategic partnership with Russia, are now seen as too costly, ambitious, risky and confrontational. In hindsight, a growing consensus among Chinese elites is that the totality of these policies has fundamentally altered how the West in general, and the U.S. in particular, perceives China's rise. If the U.S. had an agnostic view on whether a powerful China constitutes a threat to its global leadership and interests, that has now changed entirely. The shift in Chinese grand strategy under Xi has clarified Washington's strategic thinking about China -- and directly led to the end of its long-standing engagement policy toward Beijing.

The realization that the trade war merely presages a long-term Sino-American strategic conflict appears to have shocked Chinese political and economic elites. It has finally dawned on them that the "golden age" of Chinese development is over. If Sino-American relations continue to spiral downward, the "China dream" championed by Xi would turn into a geopolitical nightmare. Notably, critics of Xi refer to the famous question Deng asked four decades ago: Why have America's friends grown rich but its enemies have grown poor? The implication is devastatingly clear -- by making China an adversary of the U.S., Beijing's current foreign policy risks dooming its economic future.

Inevitably, such soul-searching about Chinese foreign policy has led to a full reexamination of Xi's domestic record. Here his critics have also found plenty to decry.

The overall sense is that China has regressed alarmingly since 2013. The domestic political strategy devised by Deng and continued by his immediate two successors, Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao, has been replaced with an unusual combination of neo-Maoism and neo-Stalinism. Official ideological orthodox has been reinforced. The personality cult of the dominant leader, a lethal threat to the CCP and its elites that Deng and his colleagues tried hard to eradicate, has been revived by sycophants eager to curry favor with Xi, who has done little to discourage them. The failure to designate a successor to Xi at the 19th party congress last October and the abolition of presidential term limit at the National People's Congress (NPC) session last March only serve to confirm that Xi has set himself up for open-ended rule. In the meantime, Xi's selective anti-corruption campaign has shattered the personal security pact among the ruling elites and upended the delicate balance of power at the apex of the regime that was crucial to managing risks and avoiding catastrophic mistakes in China's one-party state.

The implicit social contract between the CCP and the Chinese people has also been shredded in the last five years. During most of the post-Mao era, the CCP has largely maintained a defensive posture to ensure its political monopoly. It reacted only to overt challenge to its authority and allowed ever-expanding public space and personal freedom. But this trend was reversed in 2013. Censorship, repression, and surveillance have intensified. Fear has been reintroduced into Chinese society.

Such criticisms of Xi's domestic policies might sound hollow if this giant political leap backward had been accompanied by significant and real progress in economic reform. A key rationale for concentrating power in the hands of a strongman is that this would make painful reforms possible. Sadly, this has not happened. Despite rolling out an ambitious blueprint of reform in late 2013, Xi's administration has recorded few achievements. Instead, there is backsliding on several fronts. According to IMF, China's nonfinancial sector debt to gross domestic product, a key measure of leverage, was 178% in 2012 but rose to an estimated 251% by 2017, evidence of the continuation of an unsustainable policy of credit-fueled economic growth. Instead of privatization, state-owned enterprises have been strengthened through mega-merges, protection of their monopoly profits, and other munificent privileges. Massive state subsidies have been planned to supercharge a state-directed industrial policy designed to supplant the West's technological dominance. Newly imposed controls have also halted China's movement toward capital account liberalization while crackdown on tycoons has raised worries about the security of private property under a regime unchecked by the rule of law.

The potency of this litany of criticisms cannot be underestimated. If nothing else, they sound the alarm that China is headed in a disastrously wrong direction.

But it would be premature to conclude that these criticisms have fatally weakened Xi's authority. His image as a strong, visionary and capable leader has certainly been damaged. Yet nobody should write his political obituary. His loyalists are in control of the most critical organs of the Chinese party-state -- the military, the anti-corruption agency, the propaganda department and the organization department. No plausible replacement is waiting in the wings to take over.

Based on historical experience, dictatorships have weak built-in capacities for self-correcting their mistakes, especially those made by their top leaders.

Today, Xi's challenge is to prove his critics -- and historical experience -- wrong. He can try to convince them that China's setbacks are temporary and his strategy will work and deliver huge long-term benefits. Alternatively, he can beat a quick but quiet strategic retreat and return to the cautious and moderate policies pursued by his predecessors.

Either way, this is a moment of truth, both for Xi and China.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/China-s-moment-of-truth
China will soon get in line. Historically, they have avoided conflict and usually bowed to western nations. I don't foresee that changing.
 
Another wishful thinking editorial based on "insider information" from "anonymous sources".
 
Last edited:
The OP is so stupid, how does the outcome of a trade war have anything to do with political systems?? What about if a trade war happens between US and Japan? The OP's mental problems are now beyond any help.
 
This is an opinion. "Moment of truth" article is the opinion which is funded by US.
It said here.


Minxin Pei is a professor of government and a non-resident senior fellow of the German Marshall Fund of the United States.


It is not a hard fact. Earth quake, we see earth quake. but the moment of truth is assumption. You cannot see, torch, measure.
 
You can not even make sweatshops even you indians want to!
BUT your indians rape women abilities does rank number 1 in there world!
china can ONLY eat your dust in raping women!

And yet keep begging to let your lot in as refugees. Hahahhaha.
we do begger you indians to buy more xiaomi,huawei,vivo,OPPO cellphones,please buy more we Chinese are beggeing you !
 
You can not even make sweatshops even you indians want to!
BUT your indians rape women abilities does rank number 1 in there world!
china can ONLY eat your dust in raping women!


we do begger you indians to buy more xiaomi,huawei,vivo,OPPO cellphones,please buy more we Chinese are beggeing you !
Eating dust would be a step up for you lot. Indians are generous - we buy Chinese products so that you beggars get money and stop seeking refuge in India. No one is forcing you to sell your products here but we are happy to give you some money for actual work and products instead of you begging for it. Hahahahahaha.
 
Back
Top Bottom