China’s military sales in India’s neighbourhood

[Black_cats]

China’s military sales in India’s neighbourhood​

May 1, 2022

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Of late, China has raised security concerns in the Indian Ocean region with strategic military sales like submarines to Bangladesh and Pakistan. China contends to be a key defence exporter to many Asian and Southeast Asian countries in India’s neighbourhood.

Many of these countries, who are unable to acquire expensive military technology from other reliable sources, procure seemingly inexpensive weapons and systems from the Chinese market.

To this effect, the Bangladesh military imported two Type-035G submarines of 1970s vintage and Type-053H frigates from China, with its import dependence on Chinese hardware touching nearing 85 percent.

Myanmar, after the military coup in 2021 and sanctions by the West, has turned towards China for procuring majority of its military hardware.

Pakistan is shifting its reliance to cheap Chinese hardware with its procurement of Yuan class submarines, J-10/JF-17 fighter’s aircraft and Type-054 stealth warships.

Sri Lanka has been given warships and military aircraft (Harbins, J-7) in recent times. Nepal is also being aggressively pursued by China in the recent years for procuring Chinese military hardware with NPR 2.5 billion grant for the Nepalese Army.

Chinese development of overseas bases in the region is also bothering Indian military planners. Commissioning of the Djibouti military base in 2017, development of Gwadar port in Pakistan and taking over of Hambantota port in Sri Lanka gives them a credible infrastructure to position military assets in the region.

The new entrant in this club is Pekua port in Bangladesh. China plans to develop this port and offer it for berthing and maintenance of submarines given to Bangladesh. However, its real intent might be to establish a transit base for its nuclear submarines, which are likely increase their forays in the Indian Ocean region in the future. Hence, if we envisage a conflict with China or our neighbouring countries, we can anticipate that stance of these countries will be largely driven by Chinese interest in the region.

However, everything is not so rosy for Beijing’s customers as it seems. They, at their own peril, however, do not factor the life cycle costs and reliability factors of Chinese products.

Poor quality and workmanship of these Chinese military weapons and systems has turned out to be the bane for its clients. Countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Thailand and Nepal has found this out the hard way.

Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha on April 4, threatened to cancel a deal for purchase of Chinese S26T Yuan Class submarines, unless Beijing includes the German-made MTU 396 engine.

Beijing has supposedly requested modification in the contract to replace the German engines with Chinese MWM 620 engines.

Considering the poor reputation related to anything Chinese made, the Thai don’t appear willing to go ahead with the deal unless their demands are met.

Earlier in January, Nepal Airlines had grounded six Chinese-made aircraft, saying that it was proving to be unaffordable to fly them. These sub-standard planes delivered extremely poor serviceability rates and required heavy maintenance.

The loan from China for these aircraft has, however, continued to haunt the airlines. Dues worth $35.1 million, at a steep interest rate along with a service charge and management expenses, are still pending.

Beijing had gifted two 1970s era Ming class Type-035G submarines to Bangladesh valued at $100-million each in 2017. These were later re-inducted by the Bangladesh Navy as BNS Nobojatra and BNS Joyjatra.

However, both the platforms have been lying idle due to technical issues and could not be used as intended. The year 2020, witnessed China gifting Dhaka with two Chinese 053H3 frigates — BNS Umar Farooq and BNS Abu Ubaidah.

According to sources, the Type-053H3 frigates gifted to the Bangladesh Navy have defects in fire control system as well as in the helicopter fuelling and defueling system.

Defects have also been discovered in the gyro compass. The frigates were supplied by Poly Technologies Inc. Poly Technologies is a subsidiary of China Poly Group Corporation, a trade company with headquarters in Beijing, which deals with missiles and other military hardware.

With regard to naval platforms built by China Shipbuilding and Offshore International Co. Limited, issues that have surfaced are poor metallurgy, lack of spare part support, machinery failure, defective radars and poor armaments.

Defects have also been detected in basic trainer aircraft and K-8 aircraft for the Bangladesh Air Force and short-range air defence system for the Bangladesh Army.

Pakistan, despite being closest to Beijing, has also faced similar issues. Pakistan armed forces, which have been traditionally used to superior quality products made in the West, has had to deal with defective military equipment supplied by China.

The Chinese-supplied WL II UCAVs was grounded within days of induction into the PAF due to serious defects. A similar story has emerged with the joint production JF-17 fighters.

As per reports, approximately 40 aircraft are not airworthy due to a shortage of spare parts and the RD-93 engine have reportedly experienced frequent cracks in guide vanes, exhaust nozzles, and flame stabilizers.

The Chinese are desperately trying to replace the existing engine with the Chinese made WS-13 engines. However, when these will be made available to Pakistan remains the moot issue. Similar is the case with the SAM system on the Zulfiqar class frigate procured through a multi-million-dollar loan from the Chinese EXIM Bank.

The system, itself a clone of the French Crotale system, has been plagued with serviceability issues leading to the Pakistan Navy turning to European suppliers for future inductions.
Other cases of supply of poor-quality drones, armoured personnel carriers, missiles and even warships across the globe are well documented.

In some cases, loss of lives due to malfunctioning equipment have also been reported. The lack of quality of military hardware from China is increasingly coming under scanner and has brought to fore the substandard capabilities being sold to economically weaker countries in the garb of supporting them.

The world over, reliability and quality of defence equipment are known as the true mark of a nation’s technology, manufacturing ability and maintenance practices.

One would have expected Chinese defence manufacturers to have taken this onboard as an inviolable fundamental. If one is to believe open-source narratives, here too China seems to have missed the mark entirely, opting for quantity and quick delivery over quality.

N.C. Bipindra is Chairman, Law and Society Alliance, a New Delhi-based think-tank. He can be reached at ncbipindra@gmail.com

 

[Beast]

Lol.. why Nagaland support a Hindu state which marginalize them and treat them like second class? These people has no back bones.

 

[Cheepek]

Defects have also been discovered in the gyro compass.

No problem, Bangladeshis can use the gyroscope on their mobile phones

 

[Bilal9]

What I don't get about these "add water - instant defence analyst" people wetting their dhotis about Bangladesh is,

1. Just because a sovereign neighbor nation buys Chinese equipment is no business of India's, get it through your Hindutva-addled head(s). They have a sovereign right to defend themselves as they see fit. Offensive weapons are something else. Your Hindutva wish of only having neutered neighbors is a wet dream. Doesn't work that way pujaris.

2. India's relationship with its neighbors can be better handled using trade concessions and FTA's rather than getting into expensive arms races, which is counter-productive in the long run. Dadagiri bossing around doesn't help either when India itself is poorer than neighbors. Just massive long-term strategic f*ckups all around as can be expected of the MEA Intelligence hacks in Delhi as usual...

You can attract more bees with honey than vinegar....

3. Crying hoarse about the less than stellar quality of Chinese defence hardware is like "sour grapes" situation. No one cares about this Godi media propaganda except Indian MEA people themselves. As if doing this would help Bangladesh buy Indian defence hardware, which will NEVER EVER happen. Be assured.

 

[bluesky]

The new entrant in this club is Pekua port in Bangladesh. China plans to develop this port and offer it for berthing and maintenance of submarines given to Bangladesh. However, its real intent might be to establish a transit base for its nuclear submarines, which are likely increase their forays in the Indian Ocean region in the future. Hence, if we envisage a conflict with China or our neighbouring countries, we can anticipate that stance of these countries will be largely driven by Chinese interest in the region.

Below is the location map of the Pekua Submarine Base now being built by China. Note that the place cannot be intruded directly/ easily by the enemy ships. It looks good but I have not been in Chakoria and so I don't know if there are hills.

I checked and found that a submarine needs about 300 m deep water to remain submerged. In a few WWll movies I saw German submarines go to its home base in a sumerged condition to avoid enemy detection and after reaching the dockyard it comes over the surface.

By seeing the picture, I am sure the channel cannot be made so deep without mountains.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Beijing had gifted two 1970s era Ming class Type-035G submarines to Bangladesh valued at $100-million each in 2017. These were later re-inducted by the Bangladesh Navy as BNS Nobojatra and BNS Joyjatra.

Those Submarine were built in 1989, not in 1970s.

The year 2020, witnessed China gifting Dhaka with two Chinese 053H3 frigates — BNS Umar Farooq and BNS Abu Ubaidah.

According to sources, the Type-053H3 frigates gifted to the Bangladesh Navy have defects in fire control system as well as in the helicopter fuelling and defueling system.

Defects have also been discovered in the gyro compass. The frigates were supplied by Poly Technologies Inc. Poly Technologies is a subsidiary of China Poly Group Corporation, a trade company with headquarters in Beijing, which deals with missiles and other military hardware.

With regard to naval platforms built by China Shipbuilding and Offshore International Co. Limited, issues that have surfaced are poor metallurgy, lack of spare part support, machinery failure, defective radars and poor armaments.

We should be skeptical about such reports which only show up in Indian media. before handing over to Bangladesh, these frigates were used by PLA Navy. I don't think, PLA Navy would have accepted such frigates if those were riddled with so many problems with basics like poor metallurgy and machinery failure! Chinese at least do not accept poor-quality goods for themselves to use!

 

[UKBengali]

BD is building a 1 billion US dollar submarine base with the help of the Chinese.

Expect 4-6 modern diesel electric submarines most probably from China arriving between the latter part of this decade and in the early 2030s.

India needs to chill as BD has no intention of attacking it but will take the relevant measures to defend itself as a sovereign country.

 

[bluesky]

By the way, where are our two submarines that have no base in BD? Are they staying at a Chinese base for now?

 

[Wchoudhury]

By the way, where are our two submarines that have no base in BD? Are they staying at a Chinese base for now?

If India wants to show good neighborly relationship with Bangladesh, first it needs to stop killing Bangladesh citizens at the border with impunity. Second, stop/dismantle illegal damming of upstream rivers to block natural flow of water to Bangladesh. It is turning Bangladesh rivers during lean season to sandy desert. Because of these bullying behaviors, Bangladesh population utterly dislike India and Indian government. Sheik Hasina and her grifters are not going to live for eternity. When that happens, Bangladesh's dependence on India will totally wean.

 

[applesauce]

Those Submarine were built in 1989, not in 1970s.

We should be skeptical about such reports which only show up in Indian media. before handing over to Bangladesh, these frigates were used by PLA Navy. I don't think, PLA Navy would have accepted such frigates if those were riddled with so many problems with basics like poor metallurgy and machinery failure! Chinese at least do not accept poor-quality goods for themselves to use!

Never trust any indian report,especially on china, its pretty much all garbage.

its fully acknowledged though that earlier chinese vessels were of mediocre quality. It was due to the limited abilities of chinese shipyards and industry in general. it was in the 2000s that chinese ship building (and china in general) really took off.
that said, modern chinese vessels are top notch and these vessels should have been at least looked over and any outstanding issued fixed before hand over.