China’s military rise matter of concern: Naval commanders

[Beast]

you really are a clown if you think Fast combat support ships are a replacement for Forward operating bases and naval facilities. my god, you really are dumb, thinking the PLAN has any possibility of operating in Mediterranean waters, in NATO's backyard, and you have the nerve to talk about knoledge of Naval Ops? China has no controls over the Singapore straits or the suez, or the red sea. no presence in the arabian sea. please stop embarrassing yourself, you cant function outside First island chain. Not to mention you have no allies in the Mediterranean, but somehow despite all that you think any chinese naval presence can be sustained there, absolute comedy.

Also, lol at the Anti Turkish rant im not even Turkish, check the flairs before posting silly boy. And NATO's founding principle of collective defense is very much very active, an attack on one member is an attack on all members, The United States will defend every member of NATO, as we expect them to defend us, like they did when we were attacked on 9/11 and all the members took part in operations in Afghanistan.

Lol.. looks like some mad kid got angry after proven to be wrong. Tell me how do PLAN carrier ops happen in western Pacific operation since you claim it's impossible?

And as for your so called first chain scenario, it is only critical in a total war scenario which US and China decide to fight each other. And when do Soviet and USA ever fight a direct confront war? And you expect US allies like Japan and Singapore to stop PLAN to transit in International water during a proxy war? It is as good as dragging themselves into direct war with China.

NATO will not fight for turkey, stop your delusion. If PLAN decided to on voyage of fleet to embargo turkey in Mediterranean. There is no way Singapore going to be stupid enough to stop PLAN from transiting in international water. If is as good as declared war with China which China flurry of ballistic missile and bombers will show no mercy.

 

[rott]

Lol.. looks like some mad kid got angry after proven to be wrong. Tell me how do PLAN carrier ops happen in western Pacific operation since you claim it's impossible?

And as for your so called first chain scenario, it is only critical in a total war scenario which US and China decide to fight each other. And when do Soviet and USA ever fight a direct confront war? And you expect US allies like Japan and Singapore to stop PLAN to transit in International water during a proxy war? It is as good as dragging themselves into direct war with China.

NATO will not fight for turkey, stop your delusion. If PLAN decided to on voyage of fleet to embargo turkey in Mediterranean. There is no way Singapore going to be stupid enough to stop PLAN from transiting in international water. If is as good as declared war with China which China flurry of ballistic missile and bombers will show no mercy.

Bro, he's just an immigrant donning a US flag. His English is a clear giveaway.
Take it easy on him.

 

[hyperman]

If PLAN decided to on voyage of fleet to embargo turkey in Mediterranean.

listen, please stop embarrassing yourself and end the comedy here.. And idk why you keep Bringing up Turkey, Im not turkish. But the US would respond to all acts of war against other NATO states, as it expects them to come to our aid, when in need. morons think they are going to carry out an embargo in NATO's backyard, without forward operating bases or supply lines. I really hope PLAN commanders and decision makers are as foolish as you, it would be very advantageous to the US Navy.

Bro, he's just an immigrant donning a US flag. His English is a clear giveaway.

lmaaooo, born and bred.

 

[rott]

lmaaooo, born and bred.

Whatever. I've got tons of American friends. I just can't imitate American English. Tell that to a sucker.

 

[hyperman]

Whatever. I've got tons of American friends. I just can't imitate American English. Tell that to a sucker.

well idk wtf that means, but you do you boo boo.

 

[Beast]

listen, please stop embarrassing yourself and end the comedy here.. And idk why you keep Bringing up Turkey, Im not turkish. But the US would respond to all acts of war against other NATO states, as it expects them to come to our aid, when in need. morons think they are going to carry out an embargo in NATO's backyard, without forward operating bases or supply lines. I really hope PLAN commanders and decision makers are as foolish as you, it would be very advantageous to the US Navy.



lmaaooo, born and bred.

Hi kid, why so work up and full of insult when I give an example? You claim China navy can't step out of first chain which is proven wrong by me. I didn't say u are a turkey boy. Quote which sentence did I say it?

Usually loser who loses an argument will get work up and try to Insult an opponent to try desperately to prove they are still in control.

It is even more absurd when you claim singapore will blockade PLAN for the sake of US or NATO.. if US don't even has guts to stand up for Ukraine and Kurdish which allies with US. What makes u think Singapore will blockage for US? Counting death?

NATO? US don't even got guts to stand up for themselves when Iran fired missile directly at them. And u claim US has guts to stand up for NATO members? Lol...

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

What makes you think US even got the guts to attack China over Turkey which is 20times stronger than Iran?

Turkey can give bloody nose to Chineese Navy in case PLAN moves to Mediteranean and deployes sea blockade for Turkey. Moreover, ita not feasible for PLAN to cover that much distance. You are not taking few destroyers and frigates to Turkey

 

[Beast]

Turkey can give bloody nose to Chineese Navy in case PLAN moves to Mediteranean and deployes sea blockade for Turkey. Moreover, ita not feasible for PLAN to cover that much distance. You are not taking few destroyers and frigates to Turkey

China has destroyer with multi-purpose VLS destroyers while turkey has nothing, even their proposed future destroyer is based on US mark-41 which US for sure will embargo them.

Your conclusion of turkey has upper hand over PLAN is purely based on religion and brotherhood with no facts and logic.

I have seen too many examples like you. Some brag turkey can build a 5th gen fighter in 3-4 years time with no facts to support. While some claimed Turkey can build a 1200kw turboshaft to replace the imported one for their T-129 gunship in just a year time.

How many lies you want to create to delude yourselves from reality?

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/slee...-naval-power-and-washington-is-too-la.650093/

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Your conclusion of turkey has upper hand over PLAN is purely based on religion and brotherhood with no facts and logic.

No. Turkey will be the defensive force so surely it will have the upper hand unlike in vice versa. U dont need a destroyer to fight a destroyer if u are defensive. U already have untrustworthy countries in your backyard how could u leave that place

 

[JohnWick]

China has destroyer with multi-purpose VLS destroyers while turkey has nothing, even their proposed future destroyer is based on US mark-41 which US for sure will embargo them.

Your conclusion of turkey has upper hand over PLAN is purely based on religion and brotherhood with no facts and logic.

I have seen too many examples like you. Some brag turkey can build a 5th gen fighter in 3-4 years time with no facts to support. While some claimed Turkey can build a 1200kw turboshaft to replace the imported one for their T-129 gunship in just a year time.

How many lies you want to create to delude yourselves from reality?

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/slee...-naval-power-and-washington-is-too-la.650093/

US has 7 Nimitiz class aircraft carriers and 1 Ford class carrier far superior to
Chinese only one aircraft carrier

US has stealth destroyers

China has no clue about what a thing that is
In short if you don't believe me ask your genetical cousins Japanese they underestimate US Navy like you not a long ago in WW2 but as a result "REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR"
was written on the teeth of there surrendered general....

 

[Beast]

No. Turkey will be the defensive force so surely it will have the upper hand unlike in vice versa. U dont need a destroyer to fight a destroyer if u are defensive. U already have untrustworthy countries in your backyard how could u leave that place

You mean Japan and Singapore will fight PLAN just becos they are leaving for turkey? Or maybe u want to claim US will start bombing PLAN ships on route to Mediterranean? Stop deluding themselves. Superpower fight proxy war. Any direct attack on PLAN ship on route to take on turkey will means WWIII. You think our 10 MIRV DF-41 ICBM is fake or stage one?

Who is insane enough to touch on China for turkey? You have no logic.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

You mean Japan and Singapore will fight PLAN just becos they are leaving for turkey? Or maybe u want to claim US will start bombing PLAN ships on route to Mediterranean? Stop deluding themselves. Superpower fight proxy war. Any direct attack on PLAN ship on route to take on turkey will means WWIII. You think our 10 MIRV DF-41 ICBM is fake or stage one?

Who is insane enough to touch on China for turkey? You have no logic.

Even if nobody comes to help, Turkey can cause huge damage to your navy even before you overcome their defenses. Pakistan Navy can take on Indian Navy if it goes to block Indian Seas? NO. But can Pakistan fight back Indian Navy if it tries to block Pakistani seas. Yes. You are in advantage of you are defensive

 

[Beast]

Even if nobody comes to help, Turkey can cause huge damage to your navy even before you overcome their defenses. Pakistan Navy can take on Indian Navy if it goes to block Indian Seas? NO. But can Pakistan fight back Indian Navy if it tries to block Pakistani seas. Yes. You are in advantage of you are defensive

Lol.. Greece, Eygpt, Libya, Saudi are more than happy to help PLAN to allow us dock and replenish for our fleet. Christian NATO is even happier to see China take on turkey. The advantage is on our side. Keep delude yourself.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Lol.. Greece, Eygpt, Libya, Saudi are more than happy to help PLAN to allow us dock and replenish for our fleet. Christian NATO is even happier to see China take on turkey. The advantage is on our side. Keep delude yourself.

Ok. Congratulations

 

[JohnWick]

Ok. Congratulations

These celestials are not even close to
US navy in technology....
They are using aircraft carriers technology before they came into existence.....