China's J-12 - 5th generation multi-role jet

[chisty_chowdhury]

I have found some optimistic image, can any one explain-

 

[aimarhenry]

what these photos has to do with china,T-50 is a cooperation projects between russia and india.....

 

[TaimiKhan]

I have found some optimistic image, can any one explain-

Well i don't know what u mean to explain, one is a CGI of Russian PAK FA 5th generation aircraft jointly being built with Indian, and the Su-47 (forward swept wing) is the Golden Eagle 'Berkut' aircraft, 01 prototype in operational use as a technology demonstrator. T-50 is I think another name by Sukhoi to the 5th generation PAK Fa russia-india

 

[SBD-3]

J-12 5th generation multi-role jet under construction

it is F-22 because
1) no canards evident from design
2) mass production at least one more evident at back
i have something interesting
check it out
http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-aviation/3218-j-10-fc-20-mrca-97.html#post439516

 

[soaringphnx]

T-50 is I think another name by Sukhoi to the 5th generation PAK Fa russia-india

You are right. The T-50 is the name of the prototype that was made under the PAK FA program. It is likely to get a sukhoi designation in the future though it wont necessarily be Su-50 (The Su-47 was first called the S-37). In fact, Sukhoi usually usually gives even-numbered designations for ground attack aircraft.

 

[Icarus]

J-12 was a light weight supersonic fighter that was dropped in the 1970s, I believe that the J-XX will be given one of the following designation J-13/J-14/J-15.

 

[TaimiKhan]

You are right. The T-50 is the name of the prototype that was made under the PAK FA program. It is likely to get a sukhoi designation in the future though it wont necessarily be Su-50 (The Su-47 was first called the S-37). In fact, Sukhoi usually usually gives even-numbered designations for ground attack aircraft.

Wow, i wrote that nearly one year ago, and even had forgotten i ever wrote that

Thanks for reminding.

 

[Frankenstein]

I think Russia's PAKFA would be better

J-xx specs arnt out yet so nobody can say if J-XX is better then Raptor or worst then PAKFA. period

 

[topjumper]

Stealthiness is an integral part of all new fighter designs and J-12 is no exception. The engines are most likely to be Russian with Thrust Vectoring. Stealth and thrust vectoring are two features that are a must in all aircraft being designed today. Interestingly, Chinese aircraft designers will actually perform a 'generation leap' if J-12 goes into service with PLAAF. All aircraft produced in China before (apart from licenced Su-27) have been 3rd generation aircraft. Chengdu will have to take Western/Israeli/Russian help to make J-12 truly 5th generation.

China jumping from 3rd gen to 5th gen? Hehehe, if you know about the chinese fighter jets then you'll know China classifies its jets differently from the west, what china calls 3rd gen (i.e. J-10) is the 4th gen in the west, china's 4th gen (j-xx) is the 5th gen in the west (F-22). And it most probably won't be called J-12. Btw we have J-15 already!

 

[Icarus]

China jumping from 3rd gen to 5th gen? Hehehe, if you know about the chinese fighter jets then you'll know China classifies its jets differently from the west, what china calls 3rd gen (i.e. J-10) is the 4th gen in the west, china's 4th gen (j-xx) is the 5th gen in the west (F-22). And it most probably won't be called J-12. Btw we have J-15 already!

Of course, how could I forget the flying shark ?

 

[hboGYT]

well the first pic is the cockpit of the future chinese 5th generation aircraft described by the chinese sources, while the second pic is of a 001 prototype aircraft, similar to a F-22, chinese 5th generation may be, it may be PSed, experts may tell better, but in the background there is a banner in chinese writing, so don't know is it true or not. But chinese defence websites sources think its authentic.

The first picture is legit. The second one is clearly an F-22.

The current concensus amongst amateur PLA watchers is that the 5th gen. fighter is likely designated J-20, as shown below. But the picture shown in this link isn't the concensus.

Chinese Military Aviation | China Air Force

what these photos has to do with china,T-50 is a cooperation projects between russia and india.....

This guys avatar is the agreed upon likely form of the J-20.

 

[no_name]

First two image is Mig 1.44

 

[Super Falcon]

well good to hear that china seriously working on the stealth fighter jet programme

 

[Kompromat]

These images are a little bit trust worthy.

 

[SomeGuy]

These images are a little bit trust worthy.

That last image just looks like the MiG 1.44 Flatpack