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China's GDP expands 7% in Q2

What India is producing to make others believe that its economy is growing at rates India claims?What are freight volumes and container volumes for India?Don't tell me that the figures are so insignificant that they are not worth a mention?The last time I checked,China still occupies 6 or 7 positions in global top 10 container ports,more so bulk-cargo shipments。India is NOWHERE to be seen in the list of world's major ports
here see the data for yourself Open Government Data (OGD) Platform India

dont waste your time arguing with these chini zombies, most of them are paid 50 cents to peddle their govts bullshit, or probably have a gun to their head.

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Doesn't matter a road is a road even if built through death threats.
 
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dont waste your time arguing with these chini zombies, most of them are paid 50 cents to peddle their govts bullshit, or probably have a gun to their head.

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Our soldiers go through all manners of rigorous training。Hence one PLA soldier 》10 Indian soldiers。Hence the skirmish in 1962 fought and won by a few poorly equipped PLA border regiments in the most remote part of China. :D

here see the data for yourself Open Government Data (OGD) Platform India


Doesn't matter a road is a road even if built through death threats.

You are the biggest joke statistical wise. :rofl:
 
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dont waste your time arguing with these chini zombies, most of them are paid 50 cents to peddle their govts bullshit, or probably have a gun to their head.

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boring ecnomic comparison argument.
I just comment the picture, you Indias never understand what is DISCIPLINE, that is TRUE military. If you are scared of DEATH,why choose to join military!!!
 
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dont waste your time arguing with these chini zombies, most of them are paid 50 cents to peddle their govts bullshit, or probably have a gun to their head.

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Man, your hatred is deep and real. Stay like that :D


Nearly 200,000 new energy vehicles produced in China
July 15, 2015

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A worker walks past new energy cars Jianghuai Automobile Co., Ltd. in Hefei, capital of east China's Anhui province, Aug 19, 2014. (Xinhua/Liu Junxi)


China has produced nearly 200,000 new energy vehicles as of June 2015, of which the production volume of the first half of 2015 reached 78,500 units, increasing three time scompared with the same period of last year, according to the China (Changchun) 2015International Smart Logistic Science and Technology Forum held from July 12 to 13.

Li Jun, academician of China Chinese Academy of Engineering, pointed out that light weight automobile is an important development direction for China's vehicles. To reduce material costs, improve material properties, accumulate research and development experience and reform production process is the only way to realize the production of light weight automobiles.
 
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Right time for SMEs to invest abroad
July 15, 2015


Small and medium-sized enterprises from China should shed their fears about intense competition and cash in on the golden period for investment in the United States, industry experts said on Tuesday.

Favorable government policies and a conducive investment environment are also aiding the "going global" efforts of Chinese SMEs, said Michael Gordon, chairman and CEO of USAChina Investments Group.

"The biggest challenge for SMEs is to find financing channels, and in the US we have many tools to customize financial plans for businesses that are growing," said Gordon, a former adviser for the Zhou Enlai Peace Institute in Beijing, which fosters US-China trade relations with high-level government support from both countries.

At the same time, the policy has been shifting to give more support to SMEs and help themgo global.

Three years ago, 80 percent of the investment from China to the US was from State-owned enterprises, but today that landscape has completely changed and about 70 percent of the transactions are by privately owned companies, Gordon said.

"They are not necessarily small companies, but private companies looking for a wider variety of investment opportunities. So we can see the diversification happening," he said.

Official data show that about 45 million Chinese SMEs contribute to 55.6 percent of the country's GDP, and over 65 percent of all new jobs in both countries are created by SME seach year. But less than 10 percent of the bilateral trade came from SMEs.

"There is room for growth in cooperation of SMEs from both countries, that are complementary in many fields," said Gordon, adding that industries such as healthcare, lean technologies and aviation have the maximum potential for growth.

Though more business opportunities are expected from the SME cooperation, Chinese firms still have a long way to go before they can make inroads in the US markets.

A previous poll last year shows that a majority of Americans believe China poses the greatest threat to the US economy. The US government has shut down many Chinese merger and acquisition deals in US companies. One example is the aborted attempt by State-owned China National Offshore Oil Corp to buy US oil company Unocal in 2005.

Gordon said that the US government disallowed less than 5 percent of the Chinese deals in America, which is a normal practice that China would also do in the case of US investments.

"China has things that are off-limits and strategic and so does the US," he said.

"Sorting those lists out so that people can be clear about what they can or cannot participate is very important for the long term relations."
 
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A very impressive growth rate. China has proven to be a very robust economy. I don't see signs of the Chinese economy stagnating anytime soon.

All the best to China and the Chinese people.

Transforming a 1.3 billion big nation into a fully developed society does obviously not happen overnight but China is at least on the right track to do just that. China is undoubtedly lightyears ahead of 1.3 billion big India for instance in comparison.

I am personally looking forward to increased Sino-Arab ties. A lot of potential for even bigger trade ties. Last year the trade volume between the Arab world and China reached over 200 billion dollars if my memory serves me right.

In general I think that I can say that most of the 450 million Arabs are looking towards China with great inspiration and we wish you continued success.
Indeed and and when the China Pak Economic Corridor Completes you'll see an ever growing increase in Chinese Exports towards the Middle East, The Trade volume will Increase Tenfold for both the GCC and China.
This will eventually benefit the whole region.
We're very much pleased to see the Chinese economy grow at a sustained rate.May the prosperity prevail.
 
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China’s 7% GDP growth hints at economic pick-up

China’s GDP grew by 7% during the first half of 2015, a signal the economy is steadying and government policies are working, according to the country’s statistics bureau.

In a statement released early Wednesday, the bureau said the data indicated growth was “ready to pick up”, crediting the recent fiscal haul of measures.

The Chinese government has set the year’s growth goal at 7%. However slowing government investment, domestic consumption and exports mean that China’s economy still faces pressure in meeting that goal.

Fixed-asset investment, which measures government spending on infrastructure, increased 11.4% in the first six months, down 2.1% since the first quarter.

Meanwhile retail sales, an indicator of consumer spending, expanded 10.4% year-on-year to 14.16 trillion yuan (2.32 trillion US dollars) in the first half of 2015, a drop of 0.2% from the first quarter’s rate.

The country’s central bank has been pumping up liquidity by cutting interest rates and easing banking caps on lending. Data released Tuesday proved optimistic, with loans increasing by 537.1 billion yuan (86.5 billion US dollars) to 6.56 trillion yuan (around 1.05 trillion US dollars) in the first half year.

Social financing, China’s indicator of debt held by individuals and private companies, reached 8.81 trillion yuan (1.41 trillion US dollars) in the first two quarters. That’s after the country’s stock market took a serious plunge in the past two weeks, despite a new rally following overnight government measures.



 
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China’s 7% GDP growth hints at economic pick-up

China’s GDP grew by 7% during the first half of 2015, a signal the economy is steadying and government policies are working, according to the country’s statistics bureau.

In a statement released early Wednesday, the bureau said the data indicated growth was “ready to pick up”, crediting the recent fiscal haul of measures.

The Chinese government has set the year’s growth goal at 7%. However slowing government investment, domestic consumption and exports mean that China’s economy still faces pressure in meeting that goal.

Fixed-asset investment, which measures government spending on infrastructure, increased 11.4% in the first six months, down 2.1% since the first quarter.

Meanwhile retail sales, an indicator of consumer spending, expanded 10.4% year-on-year to 14.16 trillion yuan (2.32 trillion US dollars) in the first half of 2015, a drop of 0.2% from the first quarter’s rate.

The country’s central bank has been pumping up liquidity by cutting interest rates and easing banking caps on lending. Data released Tuesday proved optimistic, with loans increasing by 537.1 billion yuan (86.5 billion US dollars) to 6.56 trillion yuan (around 1.05 trillion US dollars) in the first half year.

Social financing, China’s indicator of debt held by individuals and private companies, reached 8.81 trillion yuan (1.41 trillion US dollars) in the first two quarters. That’s after the country’s stock market took a serious plunge in the past two weeks, despite a new rally following overnight government measures.




H1 real growth rate of 7% year on year。

H1 nominal growth rate of 10.34%(=296868/269044 - 1) year on year.

My forecast for 2015: 68-70 trillion yuan. :D

Not really
India's Economy Today: Much Like China's in 2001 - WSJ
Which corresponds well with the fact that China liberalized 14 years before India. But Indians have more challenges of creating growth in a post-Lehmann world

Don't be silly. 2001 USD is totally different from 2014 dollar. One 2001 dollar back then bought you a lot more than one dollar does today.

Chinese GDP is now over 5 times India's.

(1+0.07)**24 = 5.07
(1+0.08)**21 = 5.03

Assuming zero inflation and stable rupee vs USD exchange ratio, it will take India 24 or 21 years to be where China is today if the former's GDP grows by annual compound rate of 7% and 8%, respectively.

In short, India is about a quarter of a century behind China in terms of GDP, and that's if it manages to grow 7% annually and consistently through 2039.

Not entirely impossible, but hard, very hard. :D
 
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In 2007, Li Keqiang, a Chinese provincial official, let the American ambassador in on a little secret: China's GDP figures are "man-made" and therefore "unreliable."

He told the ambassador that most of the country's economic data, and especially its GDP, should be used for "reference only," according to a diplomatic cable published by Wikileaks.

Li, an economist by training, is now China's prime minister. But back in 2007, when he was still a rising party official, he described a preferred alternate method for measuring economic growth: look at electricity consumption, railway freight volume, and bank loans.

On Wednesday, the debate over the accuracy of China's GDP figures was revived after officials announced that the economy grew by 7% in the second quarter -- a level that few economists thought probable. First quarter GDP also came in at 7%, and Beijing's official growth target for 2015 is ... you guessed it: 7%.

"Stronger-than-expected GDP growth will inevitably spark renewed questions over the veracity of the official data," said Julian Evans-Pritchard of Capital Economics. "We think that actual growth is almost certainly a percentage point or two slower."

The debate over GDP numbers is a favorite topic for China watchers. Some are convinced that China is cooking its books. Others believe state statistics are largely reliable and useful. Still others debate the accuracy of certain data classes, and point to more meaningful alternatives.

Much of the current controversy is about the "GDP deflator," a statistical tool used to calculate GDP. Nobody has accused China of manipulating the measure, but some economists think the way it's calculated means growth is being overstated.

Chinese statistics officials deny there is a problem.

"China does not underestimate its GDP deflator and we don't overestimate our GDP," National Bureau of Statistics spokesman Sheng Laiyun said Wednesday.

In the past, criticism of GDP calculations was mostly tied to "GDP worship." The best way for officials to get a promotion, be it at the village or provincial level, was to hit -- or exceed -- growth targets, and then send the good news along to Beijing. This led to all kinds of funny business.

"China does not have an independent statistics bureau," said Andy Xie, an independent economist. "It depends on local governments reporting the numbers from the bottom up, and local governments do have an incentive to distort numbers."

Xie, a former chief economist for Asia-Pacific at Morgan Stanley and noted China bear, said the country's current GDP is probably closer to 4% or 5%. He recommended looking at wage growth, exports, auto production and electricity consumption instead of GDP. But even that leaves something to be desired.

"Lately, we even have noticed that local governments are fudging the electricity numbers, because they know senior leaders are looking at the electricity number," he said.

Is China cooking its books? - Jul. 15, 2015
 
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Business sentiment at record lows, but every indicator beats expectations. Only in China. :lol:

Although, it is undestandable...i would cook the books too if my mandate depended on it.
 
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The difference is that China was growing at crazy rates in the past decade or so, for example we reached a real growth rate of 14.2% in 2007.

How are you going to replicate that in a "post-Lehmann world" as you said? A global credit bubble isn't going to happen like that again any time soon, and most of the manufacturing is passing on to SE Asia. It will be a long time before those kinds of conditions come about again.

So you are 14 years behind only if you match our average growth rate in the past 14 years. But that seems incredibly unlikely (barring some kind of global economic miracle), so it's a lot more than 14 years.
China is becoming more automated which means our productivity & efficiency will increase many times. Our mid to high end finished goods products will fetch higher margins than any low end products. I don't see how India can ever catch up in this universe--next to a nuclear holocaust for the world.

Robotics key to improving industrial efficiency|Industries|chinadaily.com.cn

I'd like to see some secondary data like freight volumes and container volumes before i trust this 7%
India GDP growth estimates look overstated: Marc Faber | The Economic Times Video | ET Now
 
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