China's first self-developed computer with domestically-made CPU and operating system rolls off production line in Guangdong

[jamahir]

Does that mean you can't say Mahindra made cars are actually made in india because car is actually invented by the west?

I don't know if Mahindra produces its own car engine, of its own design.

 

[fitpOsitive]

I suppose all aircraft carriers have the same basic elements but what if a new Chinese AC had a rail gun or laser gun of entirely Chinese design or some new type of power generation or a new type of propulsion ?

India and China have many computer science students graduating out of colleges every year. Many of them will be electronics engineers and many will be software. And this has been so for many years now. So from both countries why has been there not a single instance of the two foundational elements of a computer : the CPU and OS ?



Please see above reply.



It's been some months since you made the announcement. How is it going ?



@ps3linux @fitpOsitive @Zibago

I actually know the very reason, but may be I will put light on that later.

 

[madlemon50]

I don't know if Mahindra produces its own car engine, of its own design.

What I'm trying to reach out to you is that throughout the human history different inventions have taken place and they have been evolved throughout time.

For instance the Chinese invented the paper does that mean that everything that use paper now is made by the Chinese? The Indians too invented the numbers, can we say that anything that uses the numbers now created by the Indian?

The processor as discussed is made in China hence it is made in China, no doubt there are some techs in there that still used existing design from other companies but its still designed and made in China.

 

[jamahir]

The processor as discussed is made in China hence it is made in China, no doubt there are some techs in there that still used existing design from other companies but its still designed and made in China.

Dear sir, I wish to insist that though this processor has been manufactured in China it certainly has not been designed in China. It's basic design is based on a British architecture called ARM. "Design" and "Manufacture" are two different things. I searched for some military analogy. The Chinese fighter jet J-7 / F-7 was manufactured in China but it was based ( the design ) on the USSR plane MiG-21.

I will credit China if it actually designs a processor with an entirely new instruction set. A Chinese contribution to the world.

And there is the matter of this new computer's OS being just another distro of Linux.

 

[madlemon50]

I will credit China if it actually designs a processor with an entirely new instruction set. A Chinese contribution to the world.

Honestly, we don't need your "credit", China have done a lot in the past 30 years so we don't need some indians to valid us of our achievements. There are way too many indians on the internet going all out trolling, creating fake news and sensationalized contents putting China and also Muslims at the bad light. Judging what you doing here as with many indians I know how this will end, so will not debate this further with you, I can but it will hurts your feeling real bad so I'm leaving this out for now.

 

[jamahir]

There are way too many indians on the internet going all out trolling, creating fake news and sensationalized contents putting China and also Muslims at the bad light. Judging what you doing here as with many indians I know how this will end, so will not debate this further with you, I can but it will hurts your feeling real bad so I'm leaving this out for now.

Not only am I an Indian I am also a Muslim and a Socialist. I am not an over-emotional hypernationalist so I can understand where my country lags and I will accept any valid criticism of my country.

Honestly, we don't need your "credit", China have done a lot in the past 30 years so we don't need some indians to valid us of our achievements.

I know that China has achieved much. I think in the near-future China will be a separate pole / entity in settlement of Mars and other space bodies.

What I have posted before is valid questioning of China's supposed in a certain field. I think you should allow me that.

 

[madlemon50]

Not only am I an Indian I am also a Muslim and a Socialist. I am not an over-emotional hypernationalist so I can understand where my country lags and I will accept any valid criticism of my country.

Okay, it’s just that there are way too many Indian trolls around the internet, especially since Covid started this only intensified the situation, this is especially true for sensationalised and fake news coming from India from channel such as WION and many more. The news follows to standard of Murdoch's reporting dividing society creating propaganda that is even worse than what communism (Yes I am a Chinese but doesn't mean I agree 100% to everything communism does)

It is good to hear that you are not the delusional and ultra nationalist that the hindu nationalism preach, and I regret that I put you in that group without checking further who you are.

I have nothing against all people of the world, but I have problem with delusional ultra nationalist that is being preached through hindu nationalism, this is only making it way worse than before since the pandemic started and being amplified by the Indian government making China the number 1 enemy hence creating the fake illusion that China is the aggressor.

There are many potentials for India to do better even better than China, also for Pakistan to work with each other to create a better world for everyone. If only if you take away the India ultra-nationalist government and the evil media that divides people, this will create chance that everyone can work together in fact for the world as well but realistically this is not going to happen unless every countries adopt the same government like China, that is one government with one policy so you have a policy that is consistent throughout so you won't have abrupt changes after the new government kicks in. But that being said there are still risks for one party one government system. This is another topic to be dig into.

 

[Paul2]

First Loongson chips taped out in China came out in 2010. First PCs based on them were also at around this time.

Original, Taiwanese made, Loongsons were coming as early as 2005.

So the news are a decade too late.

 

[Salman876]

China should thanks Trump

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

First Loongson chips taped out in China came out in 2010. First PCs based on them were also at around this time.

Original, Taiwanese made, Loongsons were coming as early as 2005.

So the news are a decade too late.

Is this even a big deal? Already you can have ARM based desktops running Linux. Simplest example: Raspberry Pi. It's basically a computer by itself, just that you have to buy peripherals (or not, and just use GPIO for custom purposes). RISC-V can also run Linux and it is totally open source.

China has no shortage of ARM and RISC-V solutions including by Huawei and Alibaba.

 

[Han Patriot]

I don't know if Mahindra produces its own car engine, of its own design.

When is India rolling your first OS and CPU?

 

[Globenim]

my point was it is not fair to say that they are China's self-designed items. They are of foreign design implemented in China. I think you will find my argument reasonable.

Spare us your disingenious crap show.

In your "factual terms" and by your "reasonable argumentation" Google nor Android Inc designed Android OS because its "just another Linux distro".
In your "factual terms" and by your "reasonable argumentation" AMD is wrong claiming they design processors because they "just apply British ARM architecture".
In your "factual terms" and by your "reasonable argumentation" Intel is wrong claiming they design processors because they "just apply British ARM architecture".
Following your "reasonable argumentation" in your "factual terms" ARM is not actually a British design but just "applied Austrian teachings"
Following your "reasonable argumentation" in your "factual terms" ARM is not actually a British design but an application of "French design philosophy"

We all know your cognitive dissonance routine to deny the fact that Chinese designed those products. We all know of your routine to poker for ignorance whenever you repeat this bullshit or reluctance of people to call you out on it, especially because trolls like you usually dont even know what you are actually talking about and just parott these phrases from biased media propaganda feeding your complex. Its just rethoric bullshit that can be spun to "question" novelity of every technology in existence if you just dig long enough.

You Indian trolls dont pull this bullshit with any nations or people you worship. Quite to the opposite. You Indian trolls let any "white sirs" claim to have innovated something slide and grant credit to "white sirs" companies as true innovators, when they are doing the exact same as their Chinese counterparts you dismiss as not "actually" designing and developing any new technology.

In fact we keep seeing you make extra leaps to cover for them, switching to arbitrary terms like "Western" inventions or "Western" design, which if necessary even extends to Japan, Russia and Israel, whenever some of your idolized "white sirs" claim lead or ownership of a design or concept, that is utilizing or is based of prexisting designs and concepts from another nation or even when its copied or straight out stolen IP from other countries, so its easier hide that they are doing the exact same as China behind some proxy terms obfuscating that there are routinely dozen of different countries designs embedded in pretty much every new "design" and your double standards to not ever apply your retarded "reasoning" to them.

Dont give us this dumb and disingenious Indian crapshow in every and only Chinese tech threads and then talk about "fair".

 

[letsrock]

It is not hard to make new architecture like ARM's but it will be a pain to develop entire ancillary industry to plug in to new architecture. Its really a fools errand. You dont build a square tire because a round one already exists and then start designing cars as well around it.

 

[khansaheeb]

A simple Google search reveals ( Link [1] and Link [2] ) that the CPU is based on the British ARM architecture and the OS to be based on Linux.

No great shakes.

@fitpOsitive

Was the arm CPU and chips designed and made by China? Not much of a break through if it uses foreign chip sets and OS.

 

[gangsta_rap]

CAN IT RUN CRYSIS