China's capital orders Arabic, Muslim symbols taken down

[925boy]

This is going to be extremely detrimental to China’s perception in the Muslim world and will lead to it losing most of the goodwill it has gathered with Pakistanis.

China cant lose goodwill from Pakistanis. why? China already paid for it. sorry. with how much $$ China has given Pakistan, eg via CPEC, i'm sorry, Pakistanis as citizens can dislike China and they have a right to and i sympathize, but as a govt, i dont expect Pakistani govt to do or say even 1 thing negative about China with regards to Islamophobia.

English is also a foreign language. I don't see the chinese try banning it?

english = most used international language
Arabic = foreign language only used because of Islam.

i think those are 2 different things. details man.

 

[waz]

A Chinese poster just put up pictures showing this isn’t happening to where he has been.
I’ll wait for the story to develop.
If it’s true it’s beyond stupid to use such a policy as firstly it simply means Muslims can eat the food there, and secondly how will tourists (Muslim) know wether they can eat at an establishment, are they supposed to enrol on mandarin courses?
China has huge problems with Hong Kong now and they I don’t think they would want more issues.

 

[fisher1]

Really? How an emotion fake lies that u can make up. Care to show the proof?

Show proof of what? Emotion fake lies that i can make up.

What does it even mean

 

[letsrock]

I would be suprised if chinese muslims did not know mandarin script. I am sure almost all of them do. I would ask muslims decide what exactly forms muslim identity and what is periphery. Is salwar kameez islamic or just a constume? is arabic islamic or just a language ? I think Islam is fundamentally a message, a doctrine and a moral belief system which in its pure form is very attractive. For message of islam to be spread and be better appreciated it is better to remove the hindrances such as dress or foreign language. That han chinese themselves use western dress is immaterial -they are not using it to signal their differences with other chinese - they are using it to integrate in to what is essentially a western invention - the modern economy.

 

[dray / Rain Man]

This is going to be extremely detrimental to China’s perception in the Muslim world and will lead to it losing most of the goodwill it has gathered with Pakistanis.

I don't think China ever really cared about public perception for anything that they do.

 

[SQ8]

I don't think China ever really cared about public perception for anything that they do.

Which is fine from their perspective; it is a domestic matter at the end of the day(for now).

 

[vi-va]

"Some terrorists can not represent all Muslims"----- I hear this pretext too much. Let me ask you. Did you even feel a little happy when the French catoonists were killed by Muslim gunman? Islamic terrorism can not be eleminated because there is a tiny Bin Laden hidden in almost all muslims deep soul.

Sorry, I feel it's not appropriate to accuse so broadly. Pakistan is our iron ally, Muslim can be China's friends.

China has no issue with Muslim societies in general. Americans and Israel did many harms to Muslim societies, killed millions.

Some policy in city level can NOT represent China domestic policy, nor foreign policy.

 

[SQ8]

"Some terrorists can not represent all Muslims"----- I hear this pretext too much. Let me ask you. Did you even feel a little happy when the French catoonists were killed by Muslim gunman? Islamic terrorism can not be eleminated because there is a tiny Bin Laden hidden in almost all muslims deep soul.

In that case we cannot be allies anymore - nor can ANY of the middle eastern countries. I suggest you propose that to the party.

 

[prashantazazel]

I like the Chinese approach to faith. Slowly strangle the powers of religious people, while helping the non religious people in the same community to break free from the shackles of conservatism. The younger generations will appreciate it.

There won't be significant blowback. Most significant world powers are not religious in nature. Even if the west opposes things like this in public, they are cheering behind closed doors.

 

[vi-va]

In that case we cannot be allies anymore - nor can ANY of the middle eastern countries. I suggest you propose that to the party.

Germany made huge mistakes when Germany became arrogant.
America made huge mistakes, treated Russia very badly after Cold War.
America made more mistakes after 9/11, treated Muslim countries very brutally, defend Israel and disregard Middle East hundreds of millions people's request.

China must be humble and always make wise policy, any powerful country start to fall in the moment to be arrogant.

 

[letsrock]

SOme Indians foolishly think they can pull off a china on these things. They need to realize that china first achieved equality among Han people first. Mao went brutually against warlords, those holding women as concubines and traditions such as foot binding. People were shot if they held on to their traditional feudalistic dominances. On the other hand India seeks perpetuate caste hierarchies and targets Muslims as poison pill. A community on which all its failures can be piled on. There is no way India will ever have the moral legitimacy to do such things.

 

[Globenim]

This is from Chinese media:

Advisers hail sinicization of religions

By Cao Siqi Source:Global Times Published: 2019/3/10

Religious integration in socialist society key to harmony, says expert

You must have copied the wrong article. This is about integration of religions in China and foiling foreign forces abusing religion to plant and feed anti-Chinese and seperatist sentiments to harm China. Thats a completely different story than the one narrated in the OP, I was requesting reliable sources for because so far the only claims are coming from the usual lot of U.S. regime mouthpiece and U.S. regime owned and funded proxy organizations, with a long track record of just making up shit all day, claiming to cite anonymous sources. Unless you are equating Islam with "anti Chinese", "separatism" or "terrorism" your response makes no sense.

 

[Indos]

Photos I just took.
Position: Beilin district, Xi'an, Shaanxi.
Time: Thursday, 1 August 2019, 17:28 & 17:31 (GMT+8)

The halal cafeteria in the university also has word "halal" written in Arabic,
But now that university is on holiday, I don't want to go there just to take pictures.

Thanks for the photo, it did clarify things, nevertheless if there is no halal sign in Arabic or Latin, Muslim tourist will be difficult to find food in Beijing. In Class of civilization theory, Muslim nations and China tends to be ally, it will be fool if China start to discriminate Muslim.

A Chinese poster just put up pictures showing this isn’t happening to where he has been.
I’ll wait for the story to develop.
If it’s true it’s beyond stupid to use such a policy as firstly it simply means Muslims can eat the food there, and secondly how will tourists (Muslim) know wether they can eat at an establishment, are they supposed to enrol on mandarin courses?
China has huge problems with Hong Kong now and they I don’t think they would want more issues.

Thats why for me I prefer to visit another Muslim countries as there are no problem regarding the foods.

 

[prashantazazel]

None CIA want to muddle with any Muslim extremist, US learn the hard lesson of radicalize and weaponize the Muslim to fight against the Soviet Union then the same muslim turn around attacked the US.

Actually, US enjoys doing that.
Religious extremists are cheap canon fodder, and they mostly kill their own people.

 

[obj 705A]

In that case we cannot be allies anymore - nor can ANY of the middle eastern countries. I suggest you propose that to the party.

yeah right LOL, that is why PAKISTAN & SAUDI ARABIA, endorsed China's policy in Xinjiang, you know why they did that? its because the leadership of those two countries realize that the "ummah" does not exist & that economic benefits is much more important than any imagenary religeon based brotherhood.

some Pakistani members here condemn China because of the Uyghur issue, let us assume that what the west says about China oppresing muslims is true, why do you condemn it? I mean... Turkey oppresses the Kurds too yet we dont hear you condemning Turkey & voicing support for the Kurds, or do you think its OK when a muslim opresses another muslim but its not OK when an atheist does it!