Edison Chen
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In 2013, the annual disposable income per capital in China is about $3,001.
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How speed of HSR D train? Is it government investment ?
All passengers use HSR to go to work at Shanghai for high wages ?
600 million with average 10,000 yuan / month means all of Chinese working people has the annual income 19,500 $
Do you tell me the truth ??? Even that's true they still unable use that HSR every week / month...
high speed train is for city to city, or province to province, what are you doing hooping on trains instead of going to work?
I only travel twice a year to see my parents, maybe 1 or 2 times a year on vacation if I have time. Then there is business travel.
When I was a student, or involved in only local projects, while living in the same city as my parents, I only travel once for vacation, when I get my time off.
Who takes HSR to go to work? Are you sure you know what HSR is? It's not the subway or monorail, those are cheap, about the price of a meal if not less.
Eastern China already has a per capita of more or less 15,000 USD, that will reach 25,000 by decades' end. Yea, you been lied to, we are not as poor as you think. Sorry to burst that bubble.
15,000-20,000 USD per year and only once or twice a year to use HSR ... How many people has income above 20,000 UsD / year ?
so you could do the math for HSR performance.
Be mentioned majority of Chinese people has 2500-3000 RMB / month as factory worker. or 4000 RMB/month as average income ( office )
Should I call HSR as means of transport not for majority of Chinese people ?
before we go any further, do you know what HSR is? If we take money out of the equation, how many time would you ride it a year, if money was not a concern?
Dude I grew up in Canada and the US, don't try to use Europe as if I don't know what that's like.a guy in Europe travel hundreds kilometers for his hair cut ...
Dude I grew up in Canada and the US, don't try to use Europe as if I don't know what that's like.
How often do you travel outside your city, a year?
I don't try to say how poor the Chinese people ... I just try to convince everyone that running the high speed rail with huge investment really not any good for improving the living condition of majority of Chinese people ...
You could monitor the usage of that big budget for other useful purposes...
130-200 km is the distance US people would drive to work ... they don't invest for highspeed rail.
same is the distance for European to travel by highspeed rail for work, meals,
1. China is BIG, the distance between different provinces r x000 km.Actually, I think it's better for Chinese people to have the rails with average speed 150 kilometers and seat fare as lowest as possible x1.5 not x2.5 as High-speed Rail ( I'm not sure how fast this type of train travel for 9 usd / 130 km / one way ).
If must choose between 300 km / hour and x2.5 fare and 150 km / hour and x1.5 fare ( AND much lower of construction investment ) ... which one will you choose ?
I think it's good for Chinese majority people to have their fast and cheap means of transport.
They could travel back and forth about 100-150km for work and return home in suburban which has the cheaper cost of living and house rental... Travel 100 km within 45 mins , fare 3-3.5$ and enjoy the cheap costs after they return home ...
It could be for basic workers ...
@BoQ77 just ask u, how may time u take a train in Vietnam ? or how may times u take a train in one month ?
We live in different nations, to face different railway situation. China problem is BIG, ppl ask fast shift between different provinces. If China compare with Vietnam, the distance from North Vietnam to South Vietnam just equal with the distance between two provinces(1000-2000km) in China, but China has 2x / 3x / 4x far distance to reach the terminal.cnleio , the purpose and effect of this project seems to change the habit of using means of transport ...
the rail in Vietnam still not develop, it takes too long for travelling from North to South, distance 1700-1800 km ///
and at this moment we are heading the same issue, build a Shinkansen-like which very very expensive ( estimated 56 billion USD ) or just develop the rails with average speed 120-150 kms / hour ... which need investment about less than a half ... and much cheaper fare ...
When the fare cheap, have more passenger, fast frequency, we could have new habits not to use cars for 150-250km distance ;
new location for weekend holiday ... workers return home every weekend ...
What I love is speed similar or faster than cars and cost equal or a little higher than buses ...
At this moment, in Vietnam for business purpose, there's no way than take a 2 hours flight from North to South ...
The train fare is expensive, low speed ...