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China's 4Th Industrial Revolution Rattles US Tech Stocks, will collapse the cost of cars to the point average families in the Global South can afford

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China's 4Th Industrial Revolution rattles US tech stocks, could collapse the cost of vehicles to the point that average families in the Global South can afford them​


4/21/2023 7:06:42 PM

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(MENAFN- Asia Times) Two of the worst-performing US tech stocks this week – Cisco and Tesla – have something in common: Both ran into a buzz-saw of Chinese competition. At the New York opening April 21, Telsa had lost more than 12% during the week and Cisco more than 8.1%.

Tesla's Chinese competitor BYD announced an $11,400 electrical vehicle, a challenge to Tesla's lowest-cost offering at about $33,000.

And Huawei announced that it had shifted to its home-grown enterprise resource planning (ERP) software, after
US sanctions in 2019 cut off its access to American systems. Huawei competes with Cisco in wireless local area networks (lan's ), ethernet switches , routers and other communications technology.

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BYD's 78,000 Yuan ($11,400) seagull EV, which offers a 300-mile radius and acceleration of 0 to 60 mph in five seconds, stole the show at last week's Shanghai auto fair, according to industry websites. That's half the base price of the Nissan Leaf or the Chevy Bolt, making the Seagull the world's cheapest electric vehicle – possibly, the Ford Model T of the 21st century. BYD says it will export 300,000 vehicles this year, a six-fold increase over 2022.

China produced 27 million cars in 2022, compared with 10 million in the United States, 7.8 million in Japan, 5.5 million in India and 3.7 million each in South Korea and Germany. With nearly US $3 trillion in revenues, the automotive sector is by far the world's largest manufacturing industry.

China's carmakers are a national laboratory for so-called Fourth Industrial Revolution technologies, and China's dominance in batteries for electric vehicles provides an added advantage. The combination of robotics and artificial intelligence, including quality control and preventive maintenance, may collapse the cost structure of automotive production, and China is far ahead of the rest of the world in this sphere.

According to a Huawei spokesperson, 6,000 dedicated 5G networks already have been installed in Chinese factories. The high information capacity and quick response time of 5G enable AI applications in manufacturing – for example, transmitting very large numbers of images to the Cloud for real-time processing to improve quality control. Huawei is introducing so-called 5.5G, an enhancement that increases information throughput by a third, because AI applications already are straining the capacity of 5G systems.

BYD's inexpensive Seagull is an augury of change. The average new US car costs $48,000, about the same as the average annual disposable income. The $11,400 sticker price for the new BYD offering is slightly less than the average disposable income in China and slightly more than the $7,000 disposable income in Brazil.

Industry 4.0 manufacturing could collapse the cost of entry-level vehicles to the point that average families in the Global South can afford them, the way Henry Ford's assembly line put the Model T in the reach of the average American family in 1907.

China's exports jumped 14% year-over-year in March, led by a 35% rise in exports to Southeast Asia with digital and physical infrastructure at the top of the list. If China succeeds in collapsing the cost structure of manufacturing, its export market will continue to expand as well as corporate operations overseas. BYD for example is trying to take over Ford's abandoned Bahia plant in Brazil.

With its vast economies of scale, China may achieve cost efficiencies that put the auto industry of developed markets at risk. It is catching up with the United States in some of America's remaining pockets of excellence, including enterprise software.

Huawei's announcement of its homegrown ERP system illustrates the risk of technology boycotts. Dependent on American software until 2019, Huawei now has a system,“MetaERP,” that it can sell competitively, taking market share away from America's Oracle and Germany's SAP.

On April 20, Huawei held an award ceremony at its Dongguan facility for the Meta ERP team, under the rubric,“Heroes Fighting to Cross the Dadu River,” according to a company press release. That refers to the 1935 Battle of Luding Bridge, a victory by outnumbered Communist forces pursued by the Nationalist Army during the Long March.

Analogies to China's civil war abound in the country's business writing. China's semiconductor industry, the main target of US technology controls, will dominate the production of mature nodes (14 nanometers and wider, according to “observer” columnist chen feng . By out-competing the West in the mature segment of the market, China will position itself to challenge them in the high-end segment of the market.

Chen Feng wrote in February:“Mid-to-low-end chips are still profitable, but China will not be satisfied with this market segment. Instead, it will rely on mid-to-low-end chips to bootstrap high-end chips.
This is a sustainable development.
China's steel industry, which crushes the world, was built in this way. Whether it was the era of the Revolutionary War [China's civil war] or the world economy, encircling the cities from the countryside was China's most successful experience.”

Power, it seems, flows from a broadband base station, if not from the barrel of a gun.

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Whatever you can make, china can make it cheaper
 
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Drive down the cost of GPU, as of now they are artificially inflated to the extreme.

While at it do give sufficient VRAM
 
When will China start producing EV's in Pakistan? This is a huge market with growing potential. Our Government is poor but the public has 5-10% (IMO) who can most definitely afford this car, especially if sold in easy, low/no interest installments.
 
When will China start producing EV's in Pakistan? This is a huge market with growing potential. Our Government is poor but the public has 5-10% (IMO) who can most definitely afford this car, especially if sold in easy, low/no interest installments.
I guess it'll be very soon, EVs makers in China just expand too quickly, they themselves also need time to adjust.

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US has to contain China, otherwise China will make everything affordable to everyone in this world. That'll be a disaster for the west, which depends on keeping most countries poor to stay rich.

So the US/West controls the entire World's production capacity and that is why the prices are not cheap? We tell that mom&pop shop in Chile to keep the prices high in the stuff they make?

Really? The power we wield is beyond comprehension.

We should help the world by telling that mom&pop to stop making stuff and let China do it. They can pay for that cheap imported China good by using their Welfare payments from the government since they are now unemployed.

I don't see your logic in how you think WE are the ones trying to keep people poor. If anything flooding the world market with cheap goods is going to make poor countries even poorer.
 
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I don't see your logic in how you think WE are the ones trying to keep people poor. If anything flooding the world market with cheap goods is going to make poor countries even poorer.
Sure, made in the west products with an incredible rip-off price tag make the poor countries richer.
 
Sure, made in the west products with an incredible rip-off price tag make the poor countries richer.

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For instance I don't think South America is dominated by US cars (i can only think of the Onix which i think starts at $11,000). More likely joint ventures..and I bet a lot are with Chinese companies...
 
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@beijingwalker

Cheap goods made by Chinese have certainly not made your taller than mountain, deeper than ocean, sweeter than honey friend (Pakiland) better off.

Regards
 
@beijingwalker

Cheap goods made by Chinese have certainly not made your taller than mountain, deeper than ocean, sweeter than honey friend (Pakiland) better off.

Regards
What does it have to do with Chinese products? Would Indian and Pakistani people's lives be better replacing Chinese products with western products?
 
@beijingwalker

Cheap goods made by Chinese have certainly not made your taller than mountain, deeper than ocean, sweeter than honey friend (Pakiland) better off.

Regards
Affordable goods can't compensate for a bad political system and corruption.
 
See, you youself show cheap goods can improve the standard of living and cut the cost of living, it's common sense, you don't really have to look it up

The article doesn't understand that the cars Automakers sell in the "Global South" are likely not the ones sold in the US. For instance while the article mentions the average US car costs $48,000 that doesn't mean the average prices in the "Global South" are anywhere close to it.

For instance GM sells a tiny car in the $10K range in Brazil but doesn't sell it in the US. They aren't soaking them with $48,000 on average cars.
 
When will China start producing EV's in Pakistan? This is a huge market with growing potential. Our Government is poor but the public has 5-10% (IMO) who can most definitely afford this car, especially if sold in easy, low/no interest installments.
@beijingwalker

Cheap goods made by Chinese have certainly not made your taller than mountain, deeper than ocean, sweeter than honey friend (Pakiland) better off.

Regards
 
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