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China is finally opening up about its plans for space exploration in Mars and the moonReuters
China has announced that it intends to explore Mars and plans to get there by 2020, as well as being one of the first countries to explore the "dark side" of the moon.

In a rare video interview with the BBC, Wu Weiren, a high-ranking official in the China National Space Administration (CNSA) who served as chief of China's moon and Mars missions, revealed that China is currently working on a definite Mars probe exploration mission.
"We will orbit Mars, land and deploy a rover — all in one mission," said Wu. "We could have started our Mars mission earlier but finally the country has given its approval."

Interestingly, China also has its sights set on effectively colonising the moon by establishing a manned base.

"Our short-term goal is to orbit the moon, land on the moon and take samples back from the moon. Our long-term goal is to explore, land, and settle. We want a manned lunar landing to stay for longer periods and establish a research base," explained Wu.

"It's quite challenging to land there, but according to research there might be water or ice because of the lack of sunlight, so we'd very much like to check that out."

The Martian has made China hopeful
Contrary to what you might think, Wu stressed that China is very keen to collaborate with space agencies from other countries such as Nasa in the US – much like in the sci-fi film The Martian, where China's space agency offers its Taiyang Shen space rocket booster to send rescue supplies to Nasa astronaut Mark Watney, who is stuck on Mars with dwindling resources.

This is an idea that has been impossible since the US Congress passed a spending bill in 2011 expressly forbidding Nasa from working in China, due to a high risk of espionage.

"We would like to co-operate with the US, especially for space and moon exploration," he said. "We have urged the US many times to get rid of restrictions so scientists from both countries can work together on future exploration."

Reuters reports that a senior Chinese space official Xu Dazhe, the chief of the China National Space Administration, said at a press conference on 22 April that The Martian film shows that the US would not be adverse to working with China.

"When I saw the US film The Martian, which envisages China-US cooperation on a Mars rescue mission under emergency circumstances, it shows that our U.S. counterparts very much hope to co-operate with us," said Xu.

"However, it's very regrettable that, for reasons everyone is aware of, there are currently some impediments to cooperation. I believe that on this matter, China is more and more open, and I hope our American friends can take note."

US still worries about risk of espionage
In 2015, researchers from the University of California prepared a special report for the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission entitled China Dream, Space Dream: China's Progress in Space Technologies and Implications for the United States.

"Although China is probably truthful when it says that it is not in a space race, such statements mask the true intent of its space program: to become militarily, diplomatically, commercially, and economically as competitive as the US is in space," the authors wrote in the report.

"As a result, China's progress in space technologies, whether in relative or absolute terms, has implications for the US and its neighbours. Nevertheless, although China's space program may pose challenges for the United States and its space power neighbours, it may also present opportunities for scientific collaboration on the Earth's environment and outer space.

"In addition, it may make human space flight safer by providing additional capabilities to rescue stranded or imperiled astronauts through the use of common docking apparatus."

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/china-want...tm_campaign=rss&utm_content=/rss/yahoous/news
 
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What the author is suggesting --- New ERA of SPACE WAR.
 
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China hasn't even sent a ROVER to Mars, and now they are boasting they'll be the first to land on Mars :o:


you are going to need a super heavy rocket which hasn't been built nor tested yet/

something even more powerful than Saturn V or N1.

I just don't see it happening by 2020 or 2025

land on the Moon first please to give me some hope though
 
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China hasn't even sent a ROVER to Mars, and now they are boasting they'll be the first to land on Mars :o:

why is having a robotic mars rover programme necessary before having a manned mission to mars??

nasa followed the mars rover path only because it wasn't politically willing to send a manned mission and because of the american self-defeating huge cost that results from being a government agency in a western capitalist environment.

you are going to need a super heavy rocket which hasn't been built nor tested yet/

something even more powerful than Saturn V or N1.

I just don't see it happening by 2020 or 2025

a single super-heavy rocket straight to mars is unnecessary.

can't a mars transit/lander ship be assembled in earth orbit from components sent on reasonably big rockets?? after all, the huge 'international space station' was built this way.

in fact, this would be the best way to send 10 people or 50 people or 100 people to mars.

land on the Moon first please to give me some hope though

the americans first landed humans on the moon in 1969, have they sent a manned mission to mars??

Interestingly, China also has its sights set on effectively colonising the moon by establishing a manned base.

having a mars mission and a moon mission is unnecessary complication... the mars mission involving deep space travel would help understand space travel better, unless the chinese are speaking of a silly nationalist flag-planting mission instead of a real exploration.

though once in mars orbit there can be a landing on one of the two moons of mars... a moon here, a moon there, what's the difference??
 
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why is having a robotic mars rover programme necessary before having a manned mission to mars??

nasa followed the mars rover path only because it wasn't politically willing to send a manned mission and because of the american self-defeating huge cost that results from being a government agency in a western capitalist environment.



a single super-heavy rocket straight to mars is unnecessary.

can't a mars transit/lander ship be assembled in earth orbit from components sent on reasonably big rockets?? after all, the huge 'international space station' was built this way.

in fact, this would be the best way to send 10 people or 50 people or 100 people to mars.



the americans first landed on the moon in 1969, have they sent a manned mission to mars??



having a mars mission and a moon mission is unnecessary complication... the mars mission involving deep space travel would help understand space travel better.

though once in mars orbit there can be a landing on one of the two moons of mars... a moon here, a moon there, what's the difference??


I find it hard to believe if you can't send a ROVER to Mars successfully that you would go straight to a manned landing. China will send a ROVER to Mars, but not for a few more years.


do you know how long it would take to get to Mars without a super heavy rocket?? over 6 months. I don't think any human could survive such a long journey in a small craft

assembly a craft in low orbit is possible, but you would need a huge power source to power the craft like a nuclear reactor along with a ion drive


It was all about politics why we never attempted to land on Mars. we had just won the race to the moon, so there was need to go to Mars if the USSR couldn't even land on the Moon......and Mariner and Viking send back pictures of Mars that it was dead and barren so no incentive to go there, and Werner Von Braun died along with him our ambition to go Mars.



skip to 02:30

if China thinks it go be first on Mars fine, but I just don't see it happening in their time frame is all.
 
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I find it hard to believe if you can't send a ROVER to Mars successfully that you would go straight to a manned landing. China will send a ROVER to Mars, but not for a few more years.


do you know how long it would take to get to Mars without a super heavy rocket?? over 6 months. I don't think any human could survive such a long journey in a small craft

assembly a craft in low orbit is possible, but you would need a huge power source to power the craft like a nuclear reactor along with a ion drive


It was all about politics why we never attempted to land on Mars. we had just won the race to the moon, so there was need to go to Mars if the USSR couldn't even land on the Moon......and Mariner and Viking send back pictures of Mars that it was dead and barren so no incentive to go there, and Werner Von Braun died along with him our ambition to go Mars.



skip to 02:30

if China thinks it go be first on Mars fine, but I just don't see it happening in their time frame is all.
Typical western BBC anti-China post , twisting the Chinese interview talks. And then bash by American of Chinese as arrogant.

I can bet the conversation by Chinese official is definitely not reported by BBC.
 
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US behaves like a small child. It doesn't want to share it's toys with others. Not for the sake of mankind and not for any one. Stating, "One small step for man, and a giant leap for mankind" is overtly deceptive.
Eccentric attitude is what the US has, having and will have. I am glad China doesn't depend on the US.
 
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we Chinese will have own Space station in 2020-2022.

when International Space Station be gone in 2024, we'll let Russian, Europeans,Asians or even Africans play with us, but Kick the US Ase out of the game!

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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we Chinese will have own Space station in 2020-2022.

when International Space Station be gone in 2024, we'll let Russian, Europeans,Asians or even Africans play with us, but Kick the US Ase out of the game!

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

you forgot US famous saying" if you can't beat them, joint them", Americans will change their minds when China get strong, for now they don't have interest to cozy with the weak.
 
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US Congress passed a spending bill in 2011 expressly forbidding Nasa from working in China, due to a high risk of espionage.

The US is now number 1 in space technology and I can understand why the US Congress is behaving in this manner.

Hey, give it a few more years, and China could be doing the same thing to the Americans. Now, that would be interesting, isn't it?
 
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you forgot US famous saying" if you can't beat them, joint them", Americans will change their minds when China get strong, for now they don't have interest to cozy with the weak.
Oh, if I am not wrong, I think the US just invited the Chinese to work together on the ISS. I've read it somewhere, can't remember where.

The US is now number 1 in space technology and I can understand why the US Congress is behaving in this manner.

Hey, give it a few more years, and China could be doing the same thing to the Americans. Now, that would be interesting, isn't it?
The bad side to this is, China isn't America. They will welcome America.
 
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China hasn't even sent a ROVER to Mars, and now they are boasting they'll be the first to land on Mars :o:


you are going to need a super heavy rocket which hasn't been built nor tested yet/

something even more powerful than Saturn V or N1.

I just don't see it happening by 2020 or 2025

land on the Moon first please to give me some hope though

It is about sending a rover to mars, this is indeed being twisted by many media sources for a clickbait title. Some are reporting on it accurately though.

http://www.slashgear.com/china-wants-its-own-rover-on-mars-by-2020-22437525/

Frankly I'm somewhat ok with the fearmongering on this particular issue, I'd love for NASA to get an increased budget instead of the paltry .5 percent of GDP it is, and a clear focused goal for a change. Nothing focuses quite like the thought of competition.
 
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