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China wants 'BRICS plus' to include 'friendly' countries, plan might hurt India's interests

Lol wtf people talking of brics or what ever it is as if it's a uno with so much power. BTW can someone tell me what this fucking group do and what all members are getting with its membership? exept meetings and Indians insult on bringing Pakistan in every thing
 
Exporting terrorism you say?

Did you have a chance to look in the mirror lately?

India is the biggest exporter of cross-border terrorism in the region. Indian sponsored terrorism, which spans more than the last half century has cost 100s of thousands of innocent lives.

Mukti Bahini, LTTE, BLA, TTP... the list is endless.

This terrorist country introduced the maniac of suicide bombings in the region, when no one even knew that something like this even exists!

And you talk about exporting terrorsim!

Oh well, what else can you expect from a deulsional Indian?
Please tell me who did Mumbai terror attack,attack on parliament etc.? And please don't tell me it was inside job
 
Lol wtf people talking of brics or what ever it is as if it's a uno with so much power. BTW can someone tell me what this fucking group do and what all members are getting with its membership? exept meetings and Indians insult on bringing Pakistan in every thing

Atleast the truth is infront of the Indian nation and we Indians are understanding who are our real friends and on whom we can count.

Vande Mataram , Jai Hind ...
 
There is no such thing as BRICS anymore.... when india broke the ranks and went to seek patronage from the opponents of BRICS. Brazil went under due to coupe.

There is only RC in the current BRICS i.e Russia+China.

As the global power balance shits Eastwards.... new equations are emerging.

Time for RC expansion on all fronts as we see from Sino-Pak-Rus-Iran understanding. OBOR and EEU merging. SCO expanding.....

CPEC framework expanding to include CA & Turkey and down the road ME including Eygte and Africa.

Any equations which do not include Pak and Indonessia are bound to unravel.

Soon we shall see the BRICS 2.0 mirroring G20. Long game this...

R+C are building a parrallel universe with China as the Financial Centre of Gravity.

Winning without doing battel is the heighest Virtue!
1. BRICS with P instead or B will be hilariously funny. eg fugging prics
2. BRICS is not a security axis, its an economic one. it wont change because one bloke had a wet dream in a lazy afternoon.
3. "batteling" is not equal to cheerleading.

cheers

India is too narrow and short-sighted,
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UNSC really has nothing to do with growth, exclusive or inclusive. India was not part of independent WWII allied force, UK represented you.

Growth is not limited to economy, it also extends to geo-political power. The UN is the representative of countries and people and giving people of different nations a platform to have their voice heard. So I suppose you are of the opinion that the continent of Africa should never have its voice represented in the UNSC? It should always remain at the mercy of nations that once colonized it or are currently draining it economically?
Today's power spectrum is not reflected by the remnants of WW2. So the UNSC should be inclusive and give representation to the right powers.
 
A small BRICS is no good even to India.
India has nothing to lose, but more to get.

We all need an international platform to face the challenges from G7.
 
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Practice what you preach and open up your trade routes to Afghanistan and CAR for india to access.
Let's see how generous Pakistan is to "benefit its neighbors"

Weren't you guys jumping up and down claiming to have found a new better route bypassing Pakistan?

Btw with routes closed your raw terrorists and indian army is infiltrating terrorists into pakistan so why should pakistan open up the routes and give your nation a free hand?
 
What kind of Challenges we face from G7? (Except Japan for you) They don't meddle with our internal politics nor they have any issues with us. What they tell their people is none of our concern either. Each countries in the BRICS have different agenda, all of them have normal relationships with the west. Including China, where US-UK-Germany-Canada are some of your largest trading partners.
BRICS started as a group of developing economies which will be the next biggest powers. It is purely an economic co-operation and not a political organization like G7.


You should look further at the path India will pass through.
If you only focus on your neighbors, you won't be a world power.
 
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You should look further at the path India will pass through.
If you only focus on your neighbors, you won't be a world power.

Vision 2020 is already there but we Indians are aware who have been creating hurdles all these decades.
 
Cabinet
02-August, 2017 19:54 IST
Cabinet approves MoU between India and BRICs countries to set up BRICS Agriculture Research Platform

The Union Cabinet chaired by the Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi has given its ex-post facto approval for a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) signed among India and various BRICs countries for establishment of the BRICS Agriculture Research Platform (BRICS-ARP).

Background:

During the 7th BRICS Summit held on 9thJuly 2015 at Ufa in Russia, Prime Minister Shri Modi proposed to establish BRICS Agriculture Research Centre which will be a gift to the entire world. The Centre will promote sustainable agricultural development and poverty alleviation through strategic cooperation in agriculture to provide food security in the BRICS member countries.

In order to further intensify cooperation among BRICS countries in agricultural research policy, science and technology, innovation and capacity building, including technologies for small¬holder farming in the BRICS countries, an MoU on establishment of the Agricultural Research Platform was signed by the foreign Ministers of BRICS countries in the 8th BRICS Summit held on 16th October, 2016 at Goa.

BRICS-ARP will be the natural global platform for science-led agriculture-based sustainable development for addressing the issues of world hunger, under-nutrition, poverty and inequality, particularly between farmers' and non-farmers' income, and enhancing agricultural trade, bio-security and climate resilient agriculture.

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Ministry of Commerce & Industry
02-August, 2017 14:20 IST
7th Meeting of BRICS Trade Ministers- Shanghai

The 7th Meeting of BRICS Trade Ministers was held in Shanghai from 1-2 August. A six-member delegation led by Commerce and Industry Minister Smt. Nirmala Sitharaman, along with Ambassador J.S. Deepak, PR to WTO participated in the meetings.Mr. Zhong Shan, Minister of Commerce from China, presided over the meetings. The other delegations were represented by Mr. Rob Davies, Minister of Trade and Industry (South Africa), Mr. Marcelo Maia Tavares de Araujo, Secretary of Commerce and Services of Ministry of Industry (Brazil) and Mr Maxim Oreshkin, Minister of Economic Development (Russia).

A collective courtesy call on Vice Premier Wang Yang was also organized for the BRICS Trade Ministers on 2nd August forenoon. Separately, a bilateral meeting between Commerce and Industry Minister (CIM) and Chinese Commerce Minister was also held on 1st August forenoon.

The Ministers adopted the following documents at the conclusion of the meeting:

Ø 7th BRICS Trade Ministers’ Joint Statement

Ø BRICS Trade in Services Cooperation Roadmap

Ø BRICS E-Commerce Cooperation Initiative

Ø BRICS IPR Cooperation Guidelines

Ø Framework on strengthening the Economic and Technical Cooperation of BRICS Countries

Ø Terms of Reference (ToR) of BRICS Model E-Port Network

Ø Outlines for BRICS Investment Facilitation

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The Minister of State for Commerce & Industry (Independent Charge), Smt. Nirmala Sitharaman with the delegation at the BRICS Trade Ministers Meeting, in Shanghai, China on August 01, 2017.
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The Minister of State for Commerce & Industry (Independent Charge), Smt. Nirmala Sitharaman in a group photograph at the BRICS Trade Ministers Meeting, in Shanghai, China on August 02, 2017.
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Cabinet
30-August, 2017 14:52 IST
Cabinet approves MoU between India and Brazil for cooperation in the fields of Zebu Cattle Genomics and Assisted Reproductive Technologies

The Union Cabinet chaired by Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi was apprised of Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) signed between India and Brazil for cooperation in the fields of Zebu Cattle Genomics and Assisted Reproductive Technologies. The MoU was signed in October, 2016.

The MoU will strengthen the existing friendly relations between India and Brazil and promote development of Genomics and Assistant Reproductive Technologies (ARTs) in Cattle through joint activities to be implemented through mutually agreed procedures.

An implementation committee shall be created with an equal number of representatives of each party for the purpose of regularly determining the activities and developing work plans and subsequently their evaluation.

It will be done through joint projects in the fields of Productivity Improvement of cattle and buffaloes, for the purpose of broadening the existing knowledge base on sustainable dairy development and institutional strengthening.

The MoU would promote and facilitate scientific cooperation and setting up of genomic selection programme in Zebu Cattle through (a) application of genomic in Zebu Cattle and their crosses and buffaloes (b) application of assisted reproductive technologies (ARTs) in cattle and buffaloes (c) capacity building in genomic and assisted reproductive technology (d) Related research and development in Genomics and ART in accordance with the respective laws and regulations of the two countries and is covered under Rule 7 (d) (i) of the Second Schedule of the Government of India (Transaction of Business) Rules, 1961.



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Don't worry for inclusion in BRICS you need permission of all member states pakistan no chances

Yuck!

If the BRICS is a tree, the China is the trunk, while the rest are branches. Without China, BRICS would be inconsequential or an orphan at best.

China maintains the Veto here.

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http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/brics-off-the-wall/article19589337.ece?homepage=true


How India and China repair ties at the Xiamen summit will determine the future of BRICS itself
At Copenhagen in 2009, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, then Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao and other leaders of the newly formed BASIC group (with Brazil and South Africa) were sitting in a conference room, negotiating a statement on the failure of the climate change summit. The group of emerging economies had been bolstered by the formation of the BRIC group (Brazil, Russia, India and China, South Africa joined in 2010) with a declared objective of battling “Western hegemony”. The BASIC group had decided they would walk away from Copenhagen without a deal, unless the demands of emerging economies, which couldn’t afford the same emission cuts, were reflected. The scene, as described by Shyam Saran (then India’s chief climate negotiator) in a new book on Indian foreign policy, turned dramatic: with a knock on the conference room door, the U.S. team, led by then President Barack Obama and then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, barged into the meeting. After much back and forth, Mr. Wen and Dr. Singh accepted an American compromise on the wording of the drafts, and the Copenhagen accord went ahead.

The power of five
The event didn’t just change the course of international negotiations on global warming at the time, it heralded the arrival of emerging economies as a political force, and particularly the potential of the combined political clout of India and China. BRICS (BASIC was later disbanded) went from a modest 16-paragraph joint statement at Yekaterinburg in June 2009 to the more substantive 110 paragraphs that the five countries agreed upon in the Goa Declaration of October 2016, developing common positions not just on climate change but also on terrorism, energy, and world politics.

Over time, it no longer met with sneers and references, like being called the “Bloody Ridiculous Investment Concept” by one investment banker, or the group of “paper tigers”, a reference to the fact that the term BRIC was coined in a paper by Goldman Sachs chief economist Jim O’Neill in 2001. The valuation of the BRICS grouping, that represents 40% of the world’s population and a quarter of its growth at $17 trillion, also did well, with more and more investment being driven into the five economies, mainly led by India and China. Not only did the BRICS countries better their positions in the World Bank and International Monetary Fund, they also struck a small blow against Bretton Woods institutions, and the BRICS New Development Bank set up in 2015 has already given out about $6 billion in loans for 23 projects across BRICS countries. This is no mean feat given the vast differences in size and political systems, and internal turmoil in BRICS countries.

From Doklam to Xiamen
Despite all of these gains, the truth is that BRICS now faces its most challenging summit, not because of the West or the developed world, but because of growing differences between its two biggest members, India and China. And as Prime Minister Narendra Modi prepares to travel to Xiamen for the September 3-5 summit, it is important to see how the bilateral relationship and several other changes in geopolitics are now going to change the course of the BRICS engagement as well.

The Xiamen summit follows a gruelling two and a half months during which the rhetoric between India and China — especially the latter’s — has been quite sharp. While diplomats smoothed out a victory over more hawkish elements by disengaging the troops at Doklam and obtaining a Chinese assurance that it would not continue its road construction at the tri-junction area, more heavy lifting will have to be done to restore the situation to pre-June terms. The bilateral tensions will no doubt spill over to the multilateral negotiations at Xiamen, especially given the negative atmosphere built up by state-run Chinese media these past few weeks.

Beyond the bilateral issues over the boundary, Nuclear Suppliers Group membership for India, terrorism, the Dalai Lama and others, the rift over China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) is also likely to dominate discussions at BRICS, as it now underpins all of China’s other policies. India’s refusal to be a part of the BRI over sovereignty issues, coupled with its broader objections to the transparency and agenda of the project, was a cause for tensions before the Doklam stand-off, with some commentators even arguing that it precipitated the crisis. There is little doubt that China will aim to bring the BRI on the table for negotiations at BRICS, to win a statement of endorsement as it did at the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation last year. India will have to use considerable leverage with other members to ensure that its concerns prevail. However, it must be remembered that Russia and South Africa are important parts of BRI, and while Brazil is not, it is no less a recipient of Chinese investment, with a $20 billion Brazil-China infrastructure fund inaugurated this May.

Multiple challenges
Another challenge for India is likely to arise from China’s plan for a “BRICS-Plus” or “Friends of BRICS” grouping, with Foreign Minister Wang Yi’s plan to include Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Mexico to an expanded version of BRICS. The suggestion of including Pakistan is something India has baulked at and won’t pass quite yet, but it wouldn’t want to be seen to be opposing China’s rationale of promoting “south-south cooperation” further.

Meanwhile Russia, which was the prime mover for the grouping, has moved closer to China and away from India; this could affect the language of the joint statement, especially on issues like Afghanistan, on which BRICS members had previously been on the same page. Russia’s estrangement from the U.S. and Europe post-2014 and the Ukraine crisis in particular have increased its dependence on its east and south, mainly in the direction of the $300 billion Russia-China oil pipeline that China is funding. Russia’s shift on dealing with the Taliban is a strong signal of which way it is headed.

The U.S.’s new Afghanistan-Pakistan-India policy, that builds India’s economic assistance into its own strategy for Afghanistan, will crystallise battle lines in the latest round of this age-old battle, with Russia, China, Iran and Pakistan ranged on one side, and India, the U.S. and NATO allies now on the other. In keeping with this, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has called the U.S.’s Afghanistan policy a “futile course”, while President Vladimir Putin’s Afghanistan envoy Zamir Kabulov has warned against “putting too much pressure” on Pakistan. At both the BRICS conference in Goa last October, as well as the Heart of Asia summit in December, Russian officials cavilled at backing India’s strong language on terrorism emanating from Pakistan.

The road ahead
Nevertheless, it is an indicator of the importance of BRICS that both Mr. Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping appeared to have exerted enough pressure on officials to bring about the disengagement in Doklam a week before the summit at Xiamen. The Modi government must be credited for ensuring that it won peace at Doklam without building the outcome up as a defeat of China, which would have made their rivalry at BRICS that much more intense. In this, BRICS has fared better than two other groupings, SAARC and the Non-Aligned Movement, whose last summits India skipped, and appears to have abandoned. It remains to be seen how the two leaders use next week’s bilateral encounter to chart a road map to repair ties. This could provide a realistic understanding of where the road ahead leads for BRICS as well, and whether post-Xiamen it can still bear out the potential that was promised a decade ago in Yekaterinburg and Copenhagen.
 

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