China vs. USA

[beijingwalker]

Even during the thick of the cold war between US and USSR, still almost everyone expected that US would win eventually, cause US had way better economy and manufacturing might than then USSR. It's not the case in this new cod war between China and US, the shoe is on the other foot this time.

 

[MH.Yang]

Even during the thick of the cold war between US and USSR, still almost everyone expected that US would win eventually, cause US had way better economy and manufacturing might than then USSR. It's not the case in this new cod war between China and US, the shoe is on the other foot this time.

yes, the soviet union is an imperialist power under the banner of communism. now the USA is a colonial power under the banner of imperialism.

 

[dbc]

The Gini coefficient published by China's National Bureau of statistics is 0.46. This figure is not wrong. What is wrong is the American Gini coefficient you released. The American Gini coefficient is 0.59.

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here is the key phrase you choose to casually disregard from your source. income before tax isn't cash in hand and does not contribute to wealth. The tax component is always deducted from earned income.

The 2016 US Gini coefficient was 59 based on market income, but was reduced to .42 after taxes and transfers,

 

[MH.Yang]

here is the key phrase you choose to casually disregard from your source. income before tax isn't cash in hand and does not contribute to wealth. The tax component is always deducted from earned income.

The 2016 US Gini coefficient was 59 based on market income, but was reduced to .42 after taxes and transfers,

However, 0.467 is also China's pre tax Gini coefficient, after tax Gini coefficient is 0.385. You can't compare China's pre tax with America's after tax.

 

[jhungary]

@dbc @VCheng @gambit

Is this common sentiment among many Americans? asking since OP is an American

Every country has their run-down place. Be it US or China. And I do know a lot of Chinese complain about living condition in China. The condo is too small, too clamp, too dirty, too far from anything.

I can even make a video and compare some US Upper Middle-Class suburb and rundown downtown Chicago.

I mean, it's all the same in the world, if you have money, you live in a dream house and live like a king, if you don't, all you can live is shitty place. Thing is, if you earn around $40000 a year, you can probably afford some nice place in China, you can't in America.

 

[MH.Yang]

Every country has their run-down place. Be it US or China. And I do know a lot of Chinese complain about living condition in China. The condo is too small, too clamp, too dirty, too far from anything.

I can even make a video and compare some US Upper Middle-Class suburb and rundown downtown Chicago.

I mean, it's all the same in the world, if you have money, you live in a dream house and live like a king, if you don't, all you can live is shitty place. Thing is, if you earn around $40000 a year, you can probably afford some nice place in China, you can't in America.

you, as a vietnamese living in the USA, don't pretend to be a Chinese expert.

China is different from the USA. even the worst houses have close public facilities.

 

[jhungary]

you, as a vietnamese living in the USA, don't pretend to be a Chinese expert.

China is different from the USA. even the worst houses have close public facilities.

was I Indian before? You need to make up your mind.

And either you are lying with your eyes open (You will know what I mean if you really are Chinese) , or you weren't actually Chinese and know shit about China. You expect everything is build close to everything? That's Geographically impossible because you would have close to 1 to 1 ratio on amenity and residential area. for a 10 sq kilometres town (Roughly 10 blocks x 10 blocks), you would need to have 20 Schools and 20 hospital and 20 Metro station to have everything close to each other if by close we mean a 500 square meter proximity.

Dude, maybe you should go home and play some SIMS 2 before commenting, your post makes me laugh.

 

[MH.Yang]

was I Indian before? You need to make up your mind.

And either you are lying with your eyes open, or you weren't actually Chinese and know shit about China. You expect everything is build close to everything? That's Geographically impossible because you would have close to 1 to 1 ratio on amenity and residential area. for a 10 sq kilometres town (Roughly 10 blocks x 10 blocks), you would need to have 20 Schools and 20 hospital and 20 Metro station to have everything close to each other if by close we mean a 500 square meter proximity.

Dude, maybe you should go home and play some SIMS 2 before commenting, your post makes me laugh.

500m? Is this what you think is far away?

Well, this distance is still needed. I thought you meant 500km, just like Americans.

 

[jhungary]

500m? Is this what you think is far away?

Well, this distance is still needed. I thought you meant 100km, just like Americans.

500 m^2. If you walk the entire length at 2km/h that's 1.5- 2 hours walk.

And you know shit about America. Find me a town where you need to travel 100km for anything. That wouldn't happened even in outback Australia.

Again, you people keep blowing water without wiping your mouth, you make me laugh.

 

[REhorror]

yes, the soviet union is an imperialist power under the banner of communism. now the USA is a colonial power under the banner of imperialism.

Bruh, don't talk shit about the USSR, it was never imperialist.

 

[beijingwalker]

Bruh, don't talk shit about the USSR, it was never imperialist.

But USSR was not a healthy, balanced and sustainable entity, it collapsed for a reason, today's US now is more and more like former USSR.

 

[REhorror]

But USSR was not a healthy, balanced and sustainable entity, it collapsed for a reason, today's US now is more and more like former USSR.

It's mostly due to the Sino-Soviet split.
I have discussed it before, but I don't think the chinese posters are going to accept Mao made some bad choices there, and it doesn't seem the current russians mind either, weirdly enough.

 

[MH.Yang]

It's mostly due to the Sino-Soviet split.
I have discussed it before, but I don't think the chinese posters are going to accept Mao made some bad choices there, and it doesn't seem the current russians mind either, weirdly enough.

The Soviet Union first severed diplomatic relations with China.

The Soviet Union was unwilling to treat China equally. It wants China to become a colony, just like Eastern Europe. This is foolish and arrogant.

 

[REhorror]

The Soviet Union first severed diplomatic relations with China.

The Soviet Union was unwilling to treat China equally. It wants China to become a colony, just like Eastern Europe. This is foolish and arrogant.

Again, I have discussed this before, I won't go over it again.
I guess as long as the russian posters are fine with this narrive, who am I to care?

 

[Bilal9]

@dbc @VCheng @gambit

Is this common sentiment among many Americans? asking since OP is an American

Finding your home country's flaws is not hate. Being an American means you take ownership of the problems.

It takes logic and some sensibility to admit when your flaws are as glaring as they are today.

Recognizing problems are the first steps in resolving them.

The US is not Modi's India, where propaganda is largely the norm and media control means problems can be swept under the rug without resolving them.

But we are not discussing India here, which is largely irrelevant in the global scheme of things.

The United States' primary problem right now is runaway extremist woke liberalism and decline of law and order in first tier cities. The videos have pointed out these problems very well and how China has solved them. THAT is the CRUX of this thread. HOW TO SOLVE USA PROBLEMS, not nitpicking in petty Sanghi fashion trying to diss someone's opinion without valid logic.

You ask not because you seek an answer but because of your compliant new FOB immigrant mentality as an Indian, expecting people to try too hard to become supposed 'American' just like you.

I CHOOSE not to have that mentality.