China vows firm support for UN

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

India doesn't have the capability to throw the US military out of Indian bases, not a single Indian weapon system can reach the American mainland. They could bomb you into the stone age and you couldn't even scratch them in retaliation.

You just have to ask them, and hope they do it. If they decide not to leave during wartime, well tough luck. This is what happens when you give the US military the right to use your bases on your own soil, i.e. the sale of your sovereignty.

Indians were never tired of warning Pakistan what that meant, but ironically India leapfrogged Pakistan straight into signing the LEMOA.

Nukes or ICBMs beyond a point do not seem to help in regards to sovereignty of a nation.

For instance, the idea Chinese national integrity and sovereignty is toyed around by the Americans in regards to Taiwan, despite Chinese ICBMs capable of reaching USA.

Despite accepting Taiwan as Chinese territory Americans continue to prevent any Chinese attempts to integrate Taiwan by force. Quite cruel of them to let a Chinese province mimic an independent nation state all while recognizing Chinese sovereignty.

Only other nations facing similar case are Georgia and Ukraine.

India is yet to endure something like that being a LEMOA signatory.
Even if such a situation arises I guess India will remain powerless just as China is in case of Taiwan

 

[IndoUS]

Just think about it, what if the USA turns anti-India again like they did during the 1970's?

Would you ask them to please leave Indian bases? They will laugh in your face. The decision no longer belongs to you.

Can you tell me which base is hosting a US army garrison so I can figure out where the soldiers are because so far there is zero soldiers or ships from US armed forces in India. I would really appreciate it. Also they could have taken over and done much worse to India in 70s when India didn't have nukes or a good economy why wait till now.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Can you tell me which base is hosting a US army garrison so I can figure out where the soldiers are because so far there is zero soldiers or ships from US armed forces in India. I would really appreciate it. Also they could have taken over and done much worse to India in 70s when India didn't have nukes or a good economy why wait till now.

You already SOLD your sovereignty. It's a done deal, they have the right to use Indian soil whenever they want.

That's why despite Modi's constant begging for an NSG and UNSC seat, China will always veto it. The reason is because the USA already has a seat, their vassals don't need it too.

 

[Jlaw]

You already SOLD your sovereignty. It's a done deal, they have the right to use Indian soil whenever they want.

That's why despite Modi's constant begging for an NSG and UNSC seat, China will always veto it. The reason is because the USA already has a seat, their vassals don't need it too.

True. Even SK don't have veto in UN. Why would US give India veto power?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

English-speaking puppet regimes do not deserve a seat.

True. Even SK don't have veto in UN. Why would US give India veto power?

Looking back at history, do you remember why India never got the P5 seat in 1945?

The reason is because Britain ALREADY had a seat, they didn't need two seats (the second one for British India).

Today the story is the same. America already has a P5 seat, they don't need another one.

 

[shadows888]

India would not tip the balance. It would only replace UK and FR as an addition to the US sphere of influence.

In fact, now potential changes in UK and FR leaderships, their presence makes more sense. Including India would simply create a Pacific Alliance based on the US; a geographic change from the Atlantic alliance.

It would be the last thing we would want -- a Pacific Alliance modeled after the Atlantic Alliance at the UNSC. That's a terrible proposition.

EU cannot join as an institution, because it has many sovereign nations under it. AT the UNSC, it cannot veto or propose resolutions on behalf of some 23 countries.

I guess, now the Atlantic alliance declining and China-Russia alliance is growing, the UNSC is in its historically most perfect shape.

Keep it as it is.

@Chinese-Dragon , @terranMarine , @Dungeness , @long_

i'm more of a supporter for pan-asian (at least among China-Korea-Japan-Vietnam). but its a dream i suppose. once the americans are push out of asia, it can happen. maybe in 100 years. no reason to be antagonistic toward India, its another 1.2 billion market. EU/US market won't even matter if those two countries efficiently trade. yes, i understand the china-pakistan-india triangle make things complicated...

 

[Shotgunner51]

China vows firm support for UN
2016-11-29 08:17 | Xinhua | Editor: Mo Hong'e

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Chinese President Xi Jinping (R) meets with United Nations Secretary-General designate Antonio Guterres
in Beijing, capital of China, Nov. 28, 2016. (Photo Xinhua/Rao Aimin)​

Chinese President Xi Jinping met United Nations Secretary-General designate Antonio Guterres in Beijing on Monday, vowing stronger cooperation with the UN and firm support for its work.

Calling the UN the "most universal, representative and authoritative inter-governmental international organization," Xi said it has played an irreplaceable role in addressing global challenges.

Countries around the world expect the UN to play a greater role as the international situation develops, Xi said.

"The UN should uphold the purposes and principles of the UN Charter, safeguard international peace and security, promote common development, and, in particular, implement the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development and the Paris Agreement on climate change," Xi said.

He called on the UN to take care of developing countries' interests, and give more voice and do more for such countries.

Guterres, on a China trip from Monday to Tuesday, said he appreciated China's support for his election as UN chief. He was appointed by the UN General Assembly in October to succeed Ban Ki-moon as UN secretary-general.

China has become an important pillar in the UN cause and multilateralism, said the 67-year-old Portuguese.

This year marks the 45th anniversary of China's restoration to its seat in the UN.

Hailing China-UN cooperation over the past years, Xi said China will continue to join and back UN cooperation in various areas, support UN work and multilateralism, and uphold international order with the purpose and principles of the UN Charter at the core.

Xi proposed facilitating China-UN cooperation by allowing for the leading role of high-level exchanges, and pushing forward progress in implementing China's measures to support the UN, which he announced when visiting UN headquarters in September 2015.

The measures included offering 2 billion U.S. dollars to set up a fund to support South-South cooperation, and establishing a permanent peacekeeping police squad and a peacekeeping standby force of 8,000 troops.

Guterres said Xi's proposals to back UN work at the UN summit last year were inspiring.

China has made a great contribution to world peace and development by initiating the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), participating in UN peacekeeping operations and mediation, as well as helping other developing countries, said the UN chief designate.

He pledged stronger cooperation with China in boosting world peace, stability and prosperity.

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Chinese Premier Li Keqiang (R) meets with United Nations Secretary-General designate Antonio Guterres
in Beijing, capital of China, Nov. 28, 2016. (Xinhua/Yao Dawei)​

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang, State Councilor Yang Jiechi and Foreign Minister Wang Yi also met with Guterres on Monday.

Guterres will start a five-year term on Jan. 1, 2017. He was prime minister of Portugal from 1995 to 2002, and served as UN High Commissioner for Refugees from 2005 to 2015.

Welcome new chief of UN! Among all, is UNSC functioning properly? It is indeed controversial since it only reflects post WWII world order ("Four Policemen"), now times has changed, perhaps a new global security framework is needed. However it is just one of the six main organs of UN, the other five are:

• General Assembly
• Economic and Social Council
• Secretariat
• Trusteeship Council
• International Court of Justice.

http://www.un.org/en/sections/about-un/main-organs/index.html​

More importantly, the UN is made up of the organizations established by the Charter of the United Nations (Article 57), and a number of programmes established by the General Assembly under its authority (derived from Article 22, note the International Atomic Energy Agency is not a specialized agency in the strict legal sense). Below alphabetic listing of UN system of organizations and entities:

• Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO)
• International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)
• International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO)
• International Civil Service Commission (UN)
• International Fund for Agricultural Development (IFAD)
• International Labour Organization (ILO)
• International Maritime Organization (IMO)
• International Monetary Fund (IMF)
• International Telecommunication Union (ITU)
• International Trade Centre (ITC)
• Joint Inspection Unit (JIU)
• Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS)
• Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR)
• Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR)
• Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW)
• Prepatory Commission for the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organisation (CTBTO)
• UN Women (UN Women)
• United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF)
• United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD)
• United Nations Development Programme (UNDP)
• United Nations Economic and Social Commission for Asia and the Pacific (ESCAP)
• United Nations Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia (ESCWA)
• United Nations Economic Commission for Africa (UNECA)
• United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (UNECE)
• United Nations Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean (ECLAC)
• United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO)
• United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP)
• United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC)
• United Nations Human Settlements Programme (UN-Habitat)
• United Nations Industrial Development Organization (UNIDO)
• United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research (UNIDIR)
• United Nations International Strategy for Disaster Reduction (UNISDR)
• United Nations Interregional Crime and Justice Research Institute (UNICRI)
• United Nations Office for Project Services (UNOPS)
• United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC)
• United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA)
• United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA)
• United Nations Research Institute for Social Development (UNRISD)
• United Nations System Staff College (UNSSC)
• United Nations University (UNU)
• Universal Postal Union (UPU)
• World Bank Group (World Bank Group)
• World Food Programme (WFP)
• World Health Organization (WHO)
• World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO)
• World Meteorological Organization (WMO)
• World Tourism Organization (UNWTO)
• World Trade Organization (WTO)

http://www.unsceb.org/​

Wish China contributes more leadership to UN.



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[Beidou2020]

India just signed the LEMOA which basically means the US military can use Indian bases on Indian soil whenever they want.

How is that different from giving another vote to the USA?

At least France regularly votes against America, they have a reputation as a wild card in the UNSC.

India is now an American client state pretending to be independent.

I never thought they would prostitute their country to anyone considering all their big talk of being a superpower.

Modi is supposed to be this tough nationalist leader but all he has done is sell India to the highest bidder to gain Western approval as he was banned from entering Western countries (for murdering millions of Muslims).

After all these years of Indians warning Pakistan about exactly this, it so happens that India was the one who wanted to sell their sovereignty all along.

Haha yup.

 

[Jugger]

India is now an American client state pretending to be independent.

I never thought they would prostitute their country to anyone considering all their big talk of being a superpower.

Modi is supposed to be this tough nationalist leader but all he has done is sell India to the highest bidder to gain Western approval as he was banned from entering Western countries (for murdering millions of Muslims).



Haha yup.

Please do not exaggerate the number of killings in Gujarat.
Do you have any proof PM Modi killed millions of muslims?

 

[AndrewJin]

Welcome new chief of UN! Among all, is UNSC functioning properly? It is indeed controversial since it only reflects post WWII world order ("Four Policemen"), now times has changed, perhaps a new global security framework is needed. However it is just one of the six main organs of UN, the other five are:

• General Assembly
• Economic and Social Council
• Secretariat
• Trusteeship Council
• International Court of Justice.

http://www.un.org/en/sections/about-un/main-organs/index.html​

More importantly, the UN is made up of the organizations established by the Charter of the United Nations (Article 57), and a number of programmes established by the General Assembly under its authority (derived from Article 22, note the International Atomic Energy Agency is not a specialized agency in the strict legal sense). Below alphabetic listing of UN system of organizations and entities:

• Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO)
• International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)
• International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO)
• International Civil Service Commission (UN)
• International Fund for Agricultural Development (IFAD)
• International Labour Organization (ILO)
• International Maritime Organization (IMO)
• International Monetary Fund (IMF)
• International Telecommunication Union (ITU)
• International Trade Centre (ITC)
• Joint Inspection Unit (JIU)
• Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS)
• Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR)
• Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR)
• Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW)
• Prepatory Commission for the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organisation (CTBTO)
• UN Women (UN Women)
• United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF)
• United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD)
• United Nations Development Programme (UNDP)
• United Nations Economic and Social Commission for Asia and the Pacific (ESCAP)
• United Nations Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia (ESCWA)
• United Nations Economic Commission for Africa (UNECA)
• United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (UNECE)
• United Nations Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean (ECLAC)
• United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO)
• United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP)
• United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC)
• United Nations Human Settlements Programme (UN-Habitat)
• United Nations Industrial Development Organization (UNIDO)
• United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research (UNIDIR)
• United Nations International Strategy for Disaster Reduction (UNISDR)
• United Nations Interregional Crime and Justice Research Institute (UNICRI)
• United Nations Office for Project Services (UNOPS)
• United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC)
• United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA)
• United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA)
• United Nations Research Institute for Social Development (UNRISD)
• United Nations System Staff College (UNSSC)
• United Nations University (UNU)
• Universal Postal Union (UPU)
• World Bank Group (World Bank Group)
• World Food Programme (WFP)
• World Health Organization (WHO)
• World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO)
• World Meteorological Organization (WMO)
• World Tourism Organization (UNWTO)
• World Trade Organization (WTO)

http://www.unsceb.org/​

Wish China contributes more leadership to UN.



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wow, I thought WIPO was not an official organisation.