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Do you honestly believe China dont have any of simliar weapon system you develop now?

My friends works in AVIC and many defence industry/research university, and let me put this way:

Name any single fucking weapon concept you brag in your PPT, we have the same or better ones.

China now basically fund every and any possible weapon projects, and it is tough luck you need to have to take any lead of any of them, just like the "global strike" concept you first brags and now lag far behind the Chinese, and just like how China dominate the supercomputer competition now.

And remeber, these are projects start at 1990s and just imagining the weapon project in China start at now.

Just learn to live with it, China has far more and far far better talents pool and you are hopeless in trying to match that.

Like I said before, dont try to play as some joking superman and try to stand in China's way, you will be burnt.
Never mind the absurdity of what you said which would take far too long to destroy in detail, the one thing that your China most certainly do not have is -- combat experience.

All the things that you cited are exactly just that -- things. Inanimate objects.

A squad of US Marines refreshed from combat a tour in Iraq or Afghanistan would make quick work of the best of Chinese Marines.

Put any of your Golden Helmet pilot in Red Flag and he would be 'dead' on the first day. And when he leaves for home in China, he will be sufficiently mentally shaken by what he experienced in peace time, let alone facing US pilots in a real war.

You talk as if you know what you are talking about. You do not.

Ever experienced what aviators, civilians and military, calls 'the leans' ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_leans

I have. Sooner or later anyone who handles a stick/yoke in training will experience 'the leans'. I went thru the experience in high school while getting my private pilot license. You learn to recognize the dissonance between what your body tells you vs what your instruments says on what the aircraft is doing.

Your PLA want to gain some real combat experience ? Pick a fight with US and find out. You will lose -- badly -- but you will gain combat experience.
 
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He sent own daughter to Harvard because unlike US, China's top univeristy require entrance exam and everyone, whether is a son of peasant or a daughter of Xi, is treated equally in such highly competitive exam, thats why many of them want to sent their childern to easy american schools with even easier entrance bar for the rich and powerful people.
Really...???

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...elite_u_s_universities_in_large_numbers_.html
But there are people far more important than the children of Chinese party leaders attending Harvard and other elite U.S. universities: Chinese leaders themselves.
So you are saying that the Chinese leaders themselves were and are STILL too dumb to attend Chinese universities ?

The Harvard curriculum, specially designed for this program, resembles a midcareer executive course. Housed at the Kennedy School’s Ash Center—the same graduate school Bo Xilai’s son attended—Harvard faculty teach Chinese officials leadership, strategy, and public management.
The reality, according to the Slate article, was that those leaders recognized the inadequacies of Chinese higher education and they worked with Harvard to create a custom education program to prepare the next generation of Chinese leadership. It says much about Chinese higher education when Party officials of all ranks know that Chinese universities are propaganda centers and that if finances are possible they do not want their children to be so intellectually shackled.

Excellent example of that propaganda result: YOU.

Harvard may be a competitive institution, but it’s nothing compared to being selected by the party’s Central Organization Department—the highly secretive body that is in charge of making all party appointments across China and chooses the handful of officials sent abroad to study each year.
The competition is reserved for Chinese peasants like yourself. Did you really think that Miss Xi Mingze is going to sit in the same examination with you vying for those university slots ? That you posted that 'equality' as true is evident that the brainwashing and the propaganda worked.

Lu sits proudly when he tells me more than half of the officials sent to Harvard receive a promotion not long after they return to their duties at home, although he admits, “We don’t know if it’s because of the training or because they are already so good. But we try to claim it is because of the training.”
Ain't that grand ? Or how do you say it in Chinese ?

Half of the Chinese graduates got promotions and those who promoted them have no clue whether the Harvard education worked or not.

This Slate-type expose article is probably forbidden reading in China, so consider yourself properly educated -- by Americans on an anonymous Internet forum. :lol:

Anyway I am done with this thread, the talk leads nowhere.
Maybe if we debate some Harvard educated Chinese, our debates would get somewhere.
 
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With humble and low profile business attitude China would screw her hostile haters one by one. If not satisfied f'ck you all together! A Chinese general reiterated our war & nuclear policy on a TV show of the Dec 28th: any country that hosted US nuclear sub/carriers/war planes would be considered as cobelligerent in a US-China war scenario. If nuclear weapons were used by the US China would counter attack including the countries mentioned above no matter if you have or not have nuclear weapons.
 
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This thread is not a discussion on universities. Please get back on topic.
 
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Sino-U.S. cooperation on infrastructure, trade promising: expert
(Xinhua) 14:40, January 06, 2017

China and the United States have great potential in infrastructure and trade cooperation in the new year to drive economic growth, said former Senior Vice President and Chief Economist of World Bank Justin Yifu Lin on Thursday.

Lin, also the honorary dean of National School of Development at Peking University, made the remarks while delivering a keynote speech at a meeting hosted by the National Committee on U.S.-China Relations and Peking University's China Center for Economic Research in New York.

He emphasized the importance of infrastructure investment in lifting economies out of crisis.

"China has been using infrastructure as counter-cyclical method effectively since the Asian financial crisis, and the country will continue to do that, not only domestically, but also internationally," said Lin.

Lin said that both China's Belt and Road Initiative and the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank focus on infrastructure.

"We hope these initiatives will embrace all countries including the U.S.," he added.

He said the United States now understands how important infrastructure is to domestic economic growth, and that the country will expand infrastructure investment and construction under the new administration.

"China and the U.S. should work together so that we have a truly global infrastructure initiative," said Lin.

He explained that such an initiative will do good to the developing countries because there are a lot of bottlenecks in their infrastructure. On the other hand, high-income countries will benefit from investing in developing countries as they expand exports.

Asked about possible trade frictions between the two countries after President-elect Donald Trump assumes office, Lin said people should expect trade cooperation instead of conflict.

"In terms of trade, what is good for the U.S. is good for China, and vice versa," he said, adding the two countries can find common ground to support dynamic growth for both nations after serious talks.

He said Trump certainly does not want U.S. consumers to suffer and imposing higher tariffs on goods imported from China will hurt the interests of U.S. consumers.

Lin said if high tariffs are imposed, the United States will have the choice of continuing to import goods from China or importing goods from other countries that are currently more expensive than goods made in China. In both cases, consumers in the country have to pay more.


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Between the G2, there is a higher chance of trade cooperation rather than a trade war.
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Kerry: Both US parties back 'one China'
(China Daily) 08:40, January 06, 2017

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The one-China policy, which has been challenged by US president-elect Donald Trump, is supported by the Democratic and Republican parties, US Secretary of State John Kerry assured Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi on Thursday.

Analysts said that through the phone call, Kerry aimed to warn Trump, who will be sworn in on Jan 20, not to undermine the cornerstone of Sino-US relations as the president-elect has done in the past month — from speaking with Taiwan leader Tsai Ing-wen on the phone to questioning the necessity of supporting the one-China policy.

Support for the one-China policy is based on the three joint communiques between the United States and China, Kerry said in his call to Wang. The communiques, issued in the 1970s and 1980s, laid the foundation for the restoration of China-US diplomatic ties.

Wang, noting that the Sino-US relationship is in a transition period, replied that the two sides should make joint efforts to keep bilateral ties going in the right direction.

Ruan Zongze, vice-president of the China Institute of International Studies, said that as a veteran diplomat, Kerry is "quite clear about how serious the consequences would be" if the one-China policy is challenged by a US president, and that's why he made the phone call.

He said the phone call also could be seen as a warning to Taiwan leader Tsai Ing-wen, who made a congratulatory phone call to Trump on Dec 2. The call broke four decades of Sino-US diplomatic precedent.

Tsai will transfer in Houston and San Francisco on her way to and from Latin America in a trip that will begin on Saturday. It was not clear whether she planned to meet with anyone in the US.

Wang Hailiang, a researcher of Taiwan studies at the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences, said that challenging the one-China policy would not benefit the US, since China would take countermeasures to safeguard national sovereignty.

"The Sino-US relationship has always experienced turbulence at US power transitional periods in past decades, but it finally goes onto the right track," he said.
 
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Trade with China helps 2.6m US jobs
(China Daily) 08:23, January 12, 2017

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Tourists and downtown workers are pictured in front of the New York Stock Exchange in New York, July 8, 2015. [Photo/IC]

Trade with China supports some 2.6 million jobs in the United States, including jobs that Chinese firm have created directly in the US, according to a report released on Tuesday by the US-China Business Council.

And as the Chinese middle class grows rapidly over the next decade, likely exceeding the entire US population by 2026, US companies will have opportunities to tap into a new and lucrative customer base that can further boost employment and economic growth, said the report, entitled Understanding the US-China Trade Relationship.

The report shows that nations trading closely with China outperform those with less integrated trade ties, and the trend will continue.

The USCBC, founded in 1973, is a private, nonpartisan and nonprofit organization of more than 200 US companies doing business with China.

John Frisbie, president of USCBC, said: "Much was said about the negative effect of trade with China, with estimated job losses receiving considerable attention. But the positive effects of the commercial relationship with China were largely ignored, and therefore there really hasn't an assessment of the overall context provided."

According to the report, China purchased $165 billion in goods and services from the US in 2015, representing 7.3 percent of all US exports.

Although some US manufacturing jobs have been lost because of the trade deficit, US firms sell high-value products to China, which support jobs.

By 2030, US exports to China are expected to rise to more than $520 billion.

Michael Zielenziger, managing editor of Oxford Economics, said China contributed more to global growth over the past 15 years than the eurozone and the US combined. And China accounted for one-third of global GDP growth in 2015.
http://en.people.cn/n3/2017/0112/c90000-9165785.html
 
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U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's nominee for secretary of state set a course for a potentially serious confrontation with Beijing on Wednesday, saying China should be denied access to islands it has built in the contested South China Sea.

In comments expected to enrage Beijing, Rex Tillerson told his confirmation hearing before the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee that China's building of islands and putting military assets on those islands was "akin to Russia’s taking Crimea” from Ukraine.

Asked whether he supported a more aggressive posture toward China, he said: "We’re going to have to send China a clear signal that, first, the island-building stops and, second, your access to those islands also is not going to be allowed.”

The former Exxon Mobil Corp () chairman and chief executive did not elaborate on what might be done to deny China access to the islands it has built up from South China Sea reefs, equipped with military-length airstrips and fortified with weapons.

Trump's transition team did not immediately respond to a request for specifics on how China might be blocked from the artificial islands.

China claims most of the energy-rich waters through which about $5 trillion in ship-borne trade passes every year. Neighbors Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam also have claims.

Tillerson also said Washington needed to reaffirm its commitment to Taiwan, which Beijing regards as a renegade province, but stopped short of Trump's questioning of Washington's long-standing policy on the issue.

The United States switched diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to China in 1979, acknowledging that China takes the position that there is "one China" and Taiwan is part of it. But the United States is also Taiwan's biggest ally and arms supplier.

"I don’t know of any plans to alter the 'one China' position," Tillerson said.

Tillerson said he considered China’s South China Sea activity "extremely worrisome" and that it would be a threat to the "entire global economy" if Beijing were able to dictate access to the waterway.

He blamed the current situation on what he termed an inadequate U.S. response. "The failure of a response has allowed them just to keep pushing the envelope on this," Tillerson said.

"The way we’ve got to deal with this is we’ve got to show back up in the region with our traditional allies in Southeast Asia," he said.

Democratic President Barack Obama’s administration conducted periodic air and naval patrols to assert the right of free navigation in the South China Sea. These have angered Beijing, but seeking to blockade China's man-made islands would be a major step further and a step that Washington has never raised as an option.

Under his strategic "pivot" to Asia, Obama has increased the U.S. military presence in the region, and Trump has vowed a major naval buildup.

Tillerson's words also went beyond Trump's own tough rhetoric on China.

RELUCTANT TO CHALLENGE

Obama has sought to forge a united front in Southeast Asia against China’s pursuit of its territorial claims, but some allies and partners who are rival claimants have been reluctant to challenge Beijing.

Tillerson called China's South China Sea island-building and declaration of an air defense zone in the East China Sea it contests with Japan "illegal actions."

"They’re taking territory or control, or declaring control of territories that are not rightfully China’s," he said.

The response was muted from the Philippines, a traditional U.S. ally that last year won an international arbitration case that included a challenge to China's island-building within its 200 nautical mile exclusive economic zone.

"These are not policies yet and let us wait if they will implement what was said in the hearing," Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana told reporters on Thursday.

"Let's wait until Trump is in office."

His comments reflect the sharp change in Manila's approach to China under new President Rodrigo Duterte, who wants good diplomatic and business ties with Beijing and says challenging it is provocative and pointless. He makes no secret of his lack of trust in the Obama administration and has chided it for what he considers inaction in the South China Sea.

Tillerson also said the United States could not continue to accept "empty promises" China had made about putting pressure on North Korea over that country's nuclear and missile programs.

He said his approach to dealing with North Korea - which recently declared it is close to carrying out its first test of an intercontinental ballistic missile - would be "a long-term plan" based on sanctions and their proper implementation.

Asked if Washington should consider imposing "secondary sanctions" on Chinese entities found to be violating existing sanctions on North Korea, Tillerson said: "If China is not going to comply with those U.N. sanctions, then it's appropriate ... for the United States to consider actions to compel them to comply."

He accused China of failing to live up to global agreements on trade and intellectual property, echoing past remarks by Trump, who has threatened to impose high, retaliatory tariffs on China. But Tillerson also stressed the "deeply intertwined" nature of the world's two biggest economies.

"We should not let disagreements over other issues exclude areas for productive partnership," he said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-congress-tillerson-china-idUSKBN14V2KZ
 
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