China urges Bangladesh not to go for other countries

[UKBengali]

@Abu Shaleh Rumi

Please can we refrain from racist insults at Chinese?

We need to respect each other's cultures as no one culture is superior to any other - just different.

Ignore the Chinese poster who is just butt-hurt that BD talked against China over Rohingya.

 

[serenity]

Guys despite all the low level stuff from both Chinese and Bangladeshi members, I don't know how Muslims can blame all Chinese peoples about Rohingya problem in last few years. It's not Chinese people who did the crimes the Myanma government does. It's also not Chinese people's decision what the government does or says otherwise we can say many bad things about every Muslim country too and can we blame Muslim people for the things their governments have supported or said and did? What about what Islamist extremists have done? Of course not also!

For this topic issue, it's just every day politics, similar things happen all the time. Governments ask favors and apply pressures to each other. Today it's me, tomorrow it's you. I don't understand the drama.

 

[Abu Shaleh Rumi]

Guys despite all the low level stuff from both Chinese and Bangladeshi members, I don't know how Muslims can blame all Chinese peoples about Rohingya problem in last few years. It's not Chinese people who did the crimes the Myanma government does. It's also not Chinese people's decision what the government does or says otherwise we can say many bad things about every Muslim country too and can we blame Muslim people for the things their governments have supported or said and did? What about what Islamist extremists have done? Of course not also!

For this topic issue, it's just every day politics, similar things happen all the time. Governments ask favors and apply pressures to each other. Today it's me, tomorrow it's you. I don't understand the drama.

Don't take internet forums seriously mate. Almost all of us are keyboard warriors. Let professionals with more understanding work on these issues. Hopefully all parties involved want peaceful solution.

 

[serenity]

Don't take internet forums seriously mate. Almost all of us are keyboard warriors. Let professionals with more understanding work on these issues. Hopefully all parties involved want peaceful solution.

Yes the professionals and politicians ignore these things and don't hassle each other with this internet forum level kind of nonsense but for us, we just discuss these with light heart. I believe both Bangladesh and China politicians work in a different level of course and who knows how things work out. I just think the many attacks is enough haha... We had some not serious talk so time to let this thread go quiet.

But I think my point is Rohingyas to do with Chinese have nothing of significance. Pakistan also does business and continue with Myanmar after the Rohingya issues. Governments all do this sort of things but Pakistani people cannot have any real decision because we don't know everything being risked and what the reality is. If the government is really doing something wrong, then we look at the evidence. So far it's just China still doing business with Myanmar. I guess China doesn't ever talk about internal affairs for other countries. Only influence through politics and business but because this issue has nothing to do with CCP, they simply don't care. Same can be considered for every country that has not raised this issue with Myanmar.

 

[Black_cats]

@Abu Shaleh Rumi

Please can we refrain from racist insults at Chinese?

We need to respect each other's cultures as no one culture is superior to any other - just different

Ignore the Chinese poster who is just butt-hurt that BD talked against China over Rohingya.

Yes the professionals and politicians ignore these things and don't hassle each other with this internet forum level kind of nonsense but for us, we just discuss these with light heart. I believe both Bangladesh and China politicians work in a different level of course and who knows how things work out. I just think the many attacks is enough haha... We had some not serious talk so time to let this thread go quiet.

But I think my point is Rohingyas to do with Chinese have nothing of significance. Pakistan also does business and continue with Myanmar after the Rohingya issues. Governments all do this sort of things but Pakistani people cannot have any real decision because we don't know everything being risked and what the reality is. If the government is really doing something wrong, then we look at the evidence. So far it's just China still doing business with Myanmar. I guess China doesn't ever talk about internal affairs for other countries. Only influence through politics and business but because this issue has nothing to do with CCP, they simply don't care. Same can be considered for every country that has not raised this issue with Myanmar.

There is something called moral obligation specially when you are so called Super Power. If this is your state policy to support a regime who has committed murder, genocide and rape and blocked all action at UN, you better leave permanent position at Security Council and continue to do what you are doing. Being a Super Power comes with added responsibilities not for just looking at self interest at the expense of innocent civilians blood.

 

[VikingRaider]

There is something called moral obligation specially when you are so called Super Power. If this is your state policy to support a regime who has committed murder, genocide and rape and blocked all action at UN, you better leave permanent position at Security Council and continue to do what you are doing

Not taking Chinese side, just trying to explain the reality. China will no longer remain big power if it loses access to the sea through Miyanmer. It's not hard to impose naval blockade ( malacca strait) by USA by creating any war situation in future, and it could bring China to it's knee faster than the time amount you even ever can imagine.

Bangladesh wouldn't do anything different than now China is doing in order to save herself from such massive naval blockade by her rival.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...lockade-could-bring-china-its-knees-war-50957

However maybe China will help Bangladesh solving the issues in other ways I think! Because no one this world will take our side by committing suicide that some of us are demanding from China.

Thankfully our policy makers understand the reality unlike some of us who only see one side of a coin. And that's the reason Bangladesh isn't losing her friends!

 

[SBUS-CXK]

There is something called moral obligation specially when you are so called Super Power. If this is your state policy to support a regime who has committed murder, genocide and rape and blocked all action at UN, you better leave permanent position at Security Council and continue to do what you are doing. Being a Super Power comes with added responsibilities not for just looking at self interest at the expense of innocent civilians blood.

How naive. first. You need to figure out a fact,

UN manages P5? or P5 manage UN?

 

[serenity]

There is something called moral obligation specially when you are so called Super Power. If this is your state policy to support a regime who has committed murder, genocide and rape and blocked all action at UN, you better leave permanent position at Security Council and continue to do what you are doing. Being a Super Power comes with added responsibilities not for just looking at self interest at the expense of innocent civilians blood.

Sorry but it's not CCP state policy to support genocide. It's much more complicated. Like Atlas already hinting. There is much more than simple genocide and support. China has shown Myanmar government support yes this is true. But not supporting in genocide. If it really does, you think we would not all hear so much about it? The history inside Myanmar is their business. Of course CCP only has relations with the government in power. It's true for any country. CCP are not there existing to fight for every human being's perfect world. What will you want them to do? Make enemies of Myanmar government and all the other people?

It's definitely in grey area but similar to how USA support genocide governments in the past. Soviets too. Russia even today also play these political games. It's not about super power or whatever imagination of perfect world where our politicians are angels. So blaming Chinese for Myanmar government actions is too much I think. Anyway how do we change their decision? Real world talk? We should revolution against CCP and then what?? Who will keep Chinese society together and not descent into murder and anarchy? Will the replacement treat Rohingya well and offer refuge in post CCP China? It will be as bad or much more violent place than Myanmar if that happens overnight. Please understand real world is very complex and balancing one million factors and one millions interest groups is impossible to do without neglecting some of them. Of course other people will say yeah you Chinese need to do more and be perfect blah blah blah. The response will always be whatever because it is impossible to be perfect to all peoples and groups.

 

[Nilgiri]

@waz @AgNoStiC MuSliM @Socra please deal with those continuing this silliness for multiple pages of saying same insults to each other.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Still in the process of cleaning up the threads. Any more off topic, racist posts or posts attacking other cultures will result in infraction points and bans.

12 Page thread down to 5 pages.

Please try to stick to the topic and my apologies if I ended up deleting a post that shouldn't have been deleted. When we have to moderate so many posts, it's hard avoiding collateral damage.

 

[Gibbs]

Still in the process of cleaning up the threads. Any more off topic, racist posts or posts attacking other cultures will result in infraction points and bans.

12 Page thread down to 5 pages.

Please try to stick to the topic and my apologies if I ended up deleting a post that shouldn't have been deleted. When we have to moderate so many posts, it's hard avoiding collateral damage.

@AgNoStiC MuSliM Why only clearing away offensive posts ? How far would you guys go to let some of these Bangladeshi posters abuse other posters continuously ? Are they a protected species ? The amount of abuse cropped by Myanmarese posters here over the months in spite of repeated reporting goes unheeded.. Pretty pathetic

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

@AgNoStiC MuSliM Why only clearing away offensive posts ? How far would you guys go to let some of these Bangladeshi posters abuse other posters continuously ? Are they a protected species ? The amount of abuse cropped by Myanmarese posters here over the months in spite of repeated reporting goes unheeded.. Pretty pathetic

Warnings have been issued as well. Quite frankly, your comments on another thread justified infraction points/bans as well. I chose to let everyone off for now with the warning. Bans will follow if I see those who engaged in racist/derogatory comments about other people/cultures/countries continue in that vein.

 

[Gibbs]

Warnings have been issued as well. Quite frankly, your comments on another thread justified infraction points/bans as well. I chose to let everyone off for now with the warning. Bans will follow if I see those who engaged in racist/derogatory comments about other people/cultures/countries continue in that vein.

Well mine was a retort to a unprovoked troll attempt by tagging me

From my experience here, I wouldnt expect much.. But thanks for the considerate reply.. Cheers

 

[Tanveer666]

Thank you, comrade moderator.

Still in the process of cleaning up the threads. Any more off topic, racist posts or posts attacking other cultures will result in infraction points and bans.

12 Page thread down to 5 pages.

Please try to stick to the topic and my apologies if I ended up deleting a post that shouldn't have been deleted. When we have to moderate so many posts, it's hard avoiding collateral damage.