China to US: India a 'lesser power', not an equa

[Lyrical Mockery]

i believe things would not remain static. We can't predict the future correctly based on today's facts.

 

[Punjabbi Munda]

Ah these Chinese like to compare themselves to US...in recent postponement of talks articles by China's newspapers(govt controlled) they tried to look down on India..and showed themselves as superior and deliberately putting China on level with US.
CPC's ego is just isolating it on the world map..western countries are already pessimistic of China and Japan,Vietnam other East/SE asian countries +India.

They need better political mind.

 

[Ambitious449]

There can only be 1 winner though.

See the inflation thread for my argument.

in China's struggle against the US, we are using the equivalent of financial strategic bombing: shorting the things the US doesn't want to depreciate and stockpiling the things the US wants to depreciate. Opening a new gold exchange in Yunnan was brilliant and devastated the Morgan Stanley/Goldman Sachs gold short. We've also bought up all the silver on Morgan Stanley's short and the difference is, we're forcing them to physically deliver instead of settling in cash (otherwise, the COMEX would collapse, and we'd win instantly through a US default).

As this happens, ALL paper depreciates vs gold (which has constant PPP, which means everyone has inflation). India just got hit harder since its currency is already on a downward slide. China can absorb inflation better due to huge manufacturing which is actually at above capacity, and relatively decreasing import prices, but India cannot.

Thanks for finance news bulletin. Next is what ? Sports?

 

[Abhishek_]

xxxxx.

good for you mate. your struggle is with the US.
India has been traditionally non-aligned, and continues to maintain its stance. our main goal is to develop and pull our people out of poverty, confrontation with anyone (PK or CN) is the last thing we want.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

good for you mate. your struggle is with the US.
India has been traditionally non-aligned, and continues to maintain its stance. our main goal is to develop and pull our people out of poverty, confrontation with anyone (PK or CN) is the last thing we want.

In the struggle against the US, India might get caught in the crossfire, so it is best to stay away. Not just militarily, but economically. The markets are a battlefield too. You can't pull your people out of poverty if the currency battle between China and the US push global inflation.

 

[Punjabbi Munda]

Chinese stand out of the world...with a different view..their ego and delusions that India can't get that importance(however the reality is different) makes them say these things.
Its badly hurting China in the long run...their ego..its creating more enemies than friends=>trouble for China.

 

[Lyrical Mockery]

The markets are a battlefield. True that. Every market is prone to that whether American/European/Chinese/Indian/ASEAN

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

The markets are a battlefield. True that. Every market is prone to that whether American/European/Chinese/Indian/ASEAN

However, strong countries, that is, those with either low burdens (low populations, spending, etc) or high assets (lots of stockpiled resources and money) or preferably both, are much less vulnerable to market fluctuations than countries like India, which are, unfortunately, high burden (large population, high spending required) and low asset.

It doesn't help that India's financial system is open, so Goldman Sachs can suck your blood away straight into US's stomach.

India is trying to catch up, no doubt, and its growing consumption of gold and silver is encouraging. However, it might already be too late.

 

[Abhishek_]

In the struggle against the US, India might get caught in the crossfire, so it is best to stay away. Not just militarily, but economically. The markets are a battlefield too. You can't pull your people out of poverty if the currency battle between China and the US push global inflation.

the currency issues already affect us, and there aren't much options on the table for us.
do I even need to mention that the fanboy comments dont help the public perception between the two countries, we desperately need sane minds to develop better relations.

 

[Lyrical Mockery]

Things doesn't always turn out the way i believe or you believe.
The global scenario is ever-changing.

It's tue that we're a lesser power than China, no doubt about that. But China cannot afford to ignore India. The thing China would want the least is for India to join an US-led alliance. and india would not like to confront China directly.

certain issues aside, India and China have cooperated against the west in many international forums. i don't know why we always over-look the positives of Sino-Indian relationship.

 

[Punjabbi Munda]

China is posing to overtake US economically in 2016,barely 4 years away,but India is lagging far behind China by the day.that' the difference.

China's economy has already slowed down and its exports are declining
China factory output drops most in 32 months - Economic Times
Just see what happens

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Things doesn't always turn out the way i believe or you believe.
The global scenario is ever-changing.

It's tue that we're a lesser power than China, no doubt about that. But China cannot afford to ignore India. The thing China would want the least is for India to join an US-led alliance. and india would not like to confront China directly.

certain issues aside, India and China have cooperated against the west in many international forums. i don't know why we always over-look the positives of Sino-Indian relationship.

true, China and India can cooperate, but I've gotten a very negative view of some Indians after watching this forum without registering. Maybe a more sane perspective can change this.

 

[Abhishek_]

true, China and India can cooperate, but I've gotten a very negative view of some Indians after watching this forum without registering. Maybe a more sane perspective can change this.

when you have the two largest populations interacting, you're gonna run in to plenty of crazies (not to mention the teens high on testosterone). challenge is to find the sane ones and try to improve ties.
boy am I glad to see this side of you

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

The scheduled talks between China and India over border issues at the end of November were temporarily postponed. While speculations about this decision are varied, one thing is certain: India, whose GDP is a third of China's, has been maintaining a bold stance when dealing with China. Indian public opinion will not permit concessions to China, but China will not yield to India's demand on border issues either.

This is where the dilemma is. Both sides must keep the border issue from worsening by focusing on keeping goodwill talks alive and being mindful of the consequences of a sudden breakdown.

Currently, India is a bit pushy in its relations with China. The country appears to be highly interested in facing off with China. But that contest is not the primary focus of the Chinese society.

Both China and India have been feeling anxious about being "circled." But their roles are different in each other's eyes. For India, China is the plotter and executor of this "scheme," whereas for China, India is a participant to this theory. The insecurity from both countries is not on the same level.

Nationalistic sentiment is strong in India. It claims that India is on the "first tier" of the world even though the country is still developing. India has been eagerly seeking this acknowledgement worldwide. Although the US has given the country a first tier diplomatic formality, the "elephant" is not satisfied. What it really wants is the first-tier growth rate and statistics that match China's.

However, China rarely thinks of India when it plans its economy. While it is predictable that India will get excited when their GDP growth outpaces China one day, it is hard to say whether China will feel any sadness at this result.

This does not imply that China does not take India seriously. If India can maintain its current economic growth rate, it will only become increasingly important to China.

India will not allow itself to stay quietly between the US and China. It wants to play triangle affairs with the duo, and will do anything it can to maximize its benefit out of it.

Therefore, China will find it hard to buy India over. It needs to treat the South Asia country seriously.

The US has been persuading India to join its alliance against China, and issues between China and India, such as border disputes and the Dalai Lama, are difficult to solve. Therefore, China's relation with India will face a tough road ahead. But India's ambition of becoming a strong power, as well as its economy-driven policy, will help stave off these uncertainties. This ensures that China's relations with India will not be the worst among neighboring countries.

Both countries should stay calm and not take small issues to a level of strategic hostility. India's power and its development will not make it a strategic enemy to China.

News media in New Delhi have been making stories from unreliable sources to advocate the so-called "China threat theory." Both countries should avoid overreacting to their disputes, but that does not mean these issues should be hidden away.

What we need to do is not aggravate it.

China and India mustn't go for the throat - People's Daily Online

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So, the Chinese govt. is getting a tad too worried.

Another article in newspaper controlled by ccp.
I am saying this will not be last, many more will be coming, some will threatening mode, some will be punishing and some will be in reconciliatory mode like above.

One point for sure, you can love india you can hate india, but you cannot ignore india.

 

[ChinaToday]

india has more international influence then china...
this agument of lesser power is irrelavent in sight that india defeated the china at the UN election by a margine of massive 29 votes...

Yes true to some extwend, when its comes to pitch india with china india has some influences but apart from that no one think much of india. The america debt crisis the euro crisis in which euro leaders came to china with begging bowl ring bells?Google china and india you will see no one talk about india except india media themself.India shamelessly put herself among the big boys where as in reality they are not even in the top 8.