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CHINA could join forces with the Taliban in war-torn Afghanistan to seize power in the Middle East as US and NATO troops back down after 20 years of bloodshed, experts have said.

Beijing has been waiting in the wings for the right moment to pounce on a trade deal with Kabul by extending its $62 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor into Afghanistan as part of its ambitious Belt and Road Initiative.

China's President Xi Jinping delivers a speech on the 100th anniversary of the party's founding
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China's President Xi Jinping delivers a speech on the 100th anniversary of the party's foundingCredit: Alamy
Afghanistan's President Ashraf Ghani
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Afghanistan's President Ashraf GhaniCredit: Reuters
All US and NATO troops have left Bagram Air Base after 20 years in Afghanistan
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All US and NATO troops have left Bagram Air Base after 20 years in AfghanistanCredit: AFP

Afghanistan has been engulfed by violence since the late 1970s, destroying its infrastructure and economy - but the nation's security is vital for China's global domination under the BRI, which will span 60 countries.

Multiple players are circling to take advantage of the power vacuum and the country faces an uncertain future with Taliban attacks rampant and the threat of civil war looming.

It means China wants to assert its dominance in Afghanistan to maintain political stability in the region - and expand its economic interests, Robert Clark, from the Henry Jackson Society, said.

"China has economic interests in Afghan, it is a huge mineral deposit base with zinc and cobalt needed for microchips and under US sanctions China is forced to produce their own microchips," Clark told The Sun Online.


"China is a silent partner. China would also be worried that terror groups could threaten their security."

SECURITY THREAT
Muscling in on Afghanistan would give Beijing a strategic foothold in the region with the country acting as a crucial trading hub connecting the Middle East, Central Asia and Europe, boosting China's influence across the world at an estimated cost of $4 trillion.

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi confirmed Beijing wants to "substantially" expand its BRI projects into the shattered country and "deepen the dialogue mechanism" between the nations.

A lack of infrastructure and an abundance of natural resources makes Afghanistan a lucrative target of Chinese investment - but it also involves risks.


Taliban forces have unleashed a reign of terror in recent weeks and seized control of a third of the country after the last of the American troops left.

Hundreds of Afghan soldiers have already fled across the border into neighbouring Tajikistan as the terror group sweeps through the country and leaves it on the verge of collapse.

An Afghan policeman stands guard inside the Bagram US air base after troops left
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An Afghan policeman stands guard inside the Bagram US air base after troops leftCredit: AFP
Kite vendors wait for customers at a shop in Shor Bazaar in the old quarters of Kabul
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Kite vendors wait for customers at a shop in Shor Bazaar in the old quarters of KabulCredit: AFP
A man selling chicken and ducks at a market along the road in Kabul
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A man selling chicken and ducks at a market along the road in KabulCredit: Reuters
A man selling partridges cleans their cages at a market in Kabul
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A man selling partridges cleans their cages at a market in KabulCredit: Reuters
China has already strategically built the Taxkorgan airport on Pamirs Plateau in the northwest Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region - which borders Afghanistan.

Ashok Swain, professor of peace and conflict research at Sweden's Uppsala University, told The Sun Online: "China is fast becoming a major power player in the Middle East.


"The US troops' withdrawal from Afghanistan allows China to influence Afghanistan policy in the years to come."

But Michael Kugelman, an expert in South Asian affairs, said China's ambitious expansion into Afghanistan will depend on its relationship with the Taliban.

"It will depend in great part on whether China reaches an understanding with the Taliban, which will see its influence continue to grow whether it holds power or not," he told the Daily Beast.

"If the Taliban is okay with China building out infrastructure and other projects in Afghanistan, Beijing will be in a much better place.


"China could well bring the Taliban on board with BRI.

"The insurgents have said they will support development projects if they serve Afghan national interests."

The Taliban offers a "more unified partner" to China, a source told the publication.

Xi Jinping's ambitious  Belt and Road Initiative will connect 60 countries
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Xi Jinping's ambitious Belt and Road Initiative will connect 60 countriesCredit: AP
The US led an invasion of Afghanistan to oust the Taliban in 2001
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The US led an invasion of Afghanistan to oust the Taliban in 2001Credit: AP
A child looks on as military vehicles drive past his Afghan village in 2009
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A child looks on as military vehicles drive past his Afghan village in 2009Credit: AP
US troops have now left Afghanistan after 20 years
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US troops have now left Afghanistan after 20 yearsCredit: AP
But Kugelman warned: "China will still face an extremely insecure environment, even if it gets Taliban buy-in for its projects."


Colonel Richard Kemp, 62, who was sent to Kabul in 2003 to take command of British Forces, said the outlook for Afghanistan was "bleak" - and said there would be "severe implications for the West" too.

He told The Sun Online: "Countries will see the US withdrawal as the West abandoning them when times were hard, and it will embolden countries like Russia and China as it’s seen as sign of weakness from the US.

"China is trying to increase its influence everywhere in the world – and the US withdrawal will open the gates for China to work with the Taliban."

He warned: "It will be portrayed as a defeat of the US and embolden jihadists, leading the more attacks on the West."


China will still face an extremely insecure environment, even if it gets Taliban buy-in for its projects."
Michael KugelmanExpert In South Asian Affairs

And Pakistan - one of Beijing’s strongest allies - could prove a trump card for China in the expansion into Afghanistan.

Sudha Ramachandran, an analyst on South Asian political and security issues, said China could "achieve more success than the US in Afghanistan given its close ties with and enormous leverage" over Pakistan - one of Beijing’s strongest allies.

"China wants to ensure that instability in Afghanistan does not impact BRI adversely, and it wants to push Afghanistan to join CPEC or BRI," Ramachandran told the Daily Beast.

An Indian government official said China could work with the Taliban "at the request of Pakistan".


"We can vouch that China will fund the rebuilding of Afghanistan through the Taliban via Pakistan," the source the Financial Times. "China is Pakistan’s wallet. China at the request of Pakistan will support the Taliban."

Afghan President Mohammad Ashraf Ghani
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Afghan President Mohammad Ashraf GhaniCredit: Splash
Xi Jinping wants to extend the Belt and Road Initiative into Afghanistan
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Xi Jinping wants to extend the Belt and Road Initiative into AfghanistanCredit: EPA
Chinese military mark the 100th anniversary of the Chinese Communist Party
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Chinese military mark the 100th anniversary of the Chinese Communist PartyCredit: EPA
Taliban spokesman Suhail Shaheen said it sees China as a "welcome friend" and is hoping to talk to Beijing about investing in reconstruction work "as soon as possible", South China Morning Post reports.

But Fan Hongda, professor at the Middle East Studies Institute of the Shanghai International Studies University, warned Afghanistan could become a "hotbed for growing Islamic extremism".

"Even though China has for a long time been extremely cautious about sending military forces overseas, if it is supported by a United Nations resolution, China might join an international peacekeeping team to enter Afghanistan," he told the Financial Times.


"With continued turbulence, Afghanistan could easily become a hotbed for growing Islamic extremism, which would to some extent affect stability in Xinjiang."

But Professor Anthony Glees, from the University of Buckingham, believes China will stay out of Afghanistan and just "watch very carefully".

He told The Sun Online: "I think both Russia and China will do absolutely nothing, they will stay out of the place, although they will watch very carefully indeed for any interference by the Taliban forces in their own Muslim areas.

"The more the Taliban are left to their own devices, the more they can hone their forces and their fellow Islamist 'students' in the West."


20 years in Afghanistan - what happened?
US forces have begun a full withdrawal from Afghanistan under the orders of US President Joe Biden after spending 20 years fighting to stablise the war-torn nation.
US forces have begun a full withdrawal from Afghanistan under the orders of US President Joe Biden after spending 20 years fighting to stablise the war-torn nation.
Some 456 British soldiers and 2,420 Americans - along with hundreds of other coalition troops - died during the war which was sparked by the September 11 attacks.
And the civilian casualties are estimated to have been almost 50,000.
Codenamed Operation Enduring Freedom, the US led an invasion off Afghanistan to oust the Taliban after al-Qaeda flew planes into the World Trade Centre and other US buildings in 2001.
The mission was to oust the Taliban, who were said to be harbouring terrorists and providing them a safe haven - including Osama bin Laden.
What followed was nearly 20 years of grinding conflict as the US, its allies, and the Afghan security forces staged a grinding campaign to attempt to rebuild the country and beat back the Taliban.
The Taliban had ruled most of Afghanistan following the Afghan Civil War in the 90s - sparked by the withdrawal of the Soviet Union.
Western nations had actually supported the Taliban in the 80s as the ran an insurgency against the Soviet backed regime of Mohammad Najibullah.
However, after seizing power in 1996 - the Taliban brutally ruled Afghanistan and offered a safe haven to terrorist killers like Osama.
As the US war rolled on into the 2010s, Bin Laden was killed in May, 2011, in a US special forces raid in Abbotabad, Pakistan.
And since then there has been a slow withdrawal, with British troops officially ending combat operations in October 2014.
February 2020 saw a peace deal signed between the US and the Taliban in Doha, Qatar, which agreed to a withdrawal - whoever the Afghan government criticised it as being done behind "closed doors".
Taliban forces have since continued their operations and have been gaining ground - and the US continues to pull back its troops.
The war is seen as defeating the Taliban and improving the lives of the Afghan people who were once living under strict Islamic law and who now have free elections.
However, for some it is unfinished job which was mishandled - and that may 20 years on simply see a return to the dominance of the Taliban as they did pre-9/11.
And Kugelman said China's capacity to fill the vacuum left by the United States "shouldn't be overstated".

"There will certainly be a vacuum to fill, but we shouldn't overstate China's capacity to fill it," he told the Daily Beast.

"With Afghanistan's security situation sure to spiral out of control, there's only so much China will be able to do to deepen its footprint."

Experts have also warned that other countries in the region will seek to assert their dominance in Afghanistan.


RUSSIA 'STANDS READY'
Russia will also look to exploit its current presence in the country, Clark warned.

And Nilofar Sakhi, lecturer in International Affairs at the George Washington University, said China, Russia and Iran will use Afghanistan "as a battlefield for their strategic competition with the United States".

It comes as Russian military helicopters based in Tajikistan fired air-to-surface missiles during a training exercise on Tuesday as Moscow said its forces were ready to help secure the border with Afghanistan.

President Vladimir Putin told Tajikistan President Emomali Rakhmon that the nation will help with the fallout from NATO's exit from neighbouring Afghanistan if necessary.


The military exercise simulated an attack on illegal armed groups along with a convoy of cars, enemy firepoints and arms caches.

And tensions are mounting after a Taliban spokesperson said it will treat NATO and US forces as "invaders" if they fail to leave Afghanistan by September.

Suhail Shaheen promised the Taliban "would react" if troops are left in the country after the withdrawal, hours after the terror group seized control of nine districts.

The jihadis are now preparing to move on the capital Kabul after Afghan troops surrendered and retreated.


"The Taliban for now seem to be convinced they can take power forcefully," political analyst Ramish Salehi said.

"This is a fight that will determine... whether democracy will prevail against ideological forces."


The Taliban takeover in Afghanistan will definitely have a domino effect in the other regional flashpoints, it will be prudent of them to be on good terms with all the regional powers. The only country that is going to lose big time is India.
 
The only country that is going to lose big time is India.
Actually India shares no border with afghanistan and is not relevant in afghanistan anyway by any mean.
All these years India was poking it's nose in afghanistan just for sponsoring terrorism in pakistan . India is not afghanistan regional player.
 
All these years India was poking it's nose in afghanistan just for sponsoring terrorism in pakistan
Pakistan will be much secure on the Western front, CPEC will move forward, Regional harmony will enhance and most importantly Indian dreams of a SUPAPOWA will recede and it will be focusing more on its own SECURITY.
 
How China can prop up Taliban to seize power in ME?
I find that bit as BS as well, nevertheless the Taliban do need regional players for reconstruction and assistance.
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I find that bit as BS as well, nevertheless the Taliban do need regional players for reconstruction and assistance.
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Of course they do hence they are welcoming cooperation with every country. I believe that Taliban would take investment from every country for the development projects but would not like any funding of ANA, NDS or Anti taliban forces in Afghanistan.
 
CHINA could join forces with the Taliban in war-torn Afghanistan to seize power in the Middle East as US and NATO troops back down after 20 years of bloodshed, experts have said.

Beijing has been waiting in the wings for the right moment to pounce on a trade deal with Kabul by extending its $62 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor into Afghanistan as part of its ambitious Belt and Road Initiative.

China's President Xi Jinping delivers a speech on the 100th anniversary of the party's founding's President Xi Jinping delivers a speech on the 100th anniversary of the party's founding
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China's President Xi Jinping delivers a speech on the 100th anniversary of the party's foundingCredit: Alamy
Afghanistan's President Ashraf Ghani's President Ashraf Ghani
14
Afghanistan's President Ashraf GhaniCredit: Reuters
All US and NATO troops have left Bagram Air Base after 20 years in Afghanistan
14
All US and NATO troops have left Bagram Air Base after 20 years in AfghanistanCredit: AFP

Afghanistan has been engulfed by violence since the late 1970s, destroying its infrastructure and economy - but the nation's security is vital for China's global domination under the BRI, which will span 60 countries.

Multiple players are circling to take advantage of the power vacuum and the country faces an uncertain future with Taliban attacks rampant and the threat of civil war looming.

It means China wants to assert its dominance in Afghanistan to maintain political stability in the region - and expand its economic interests, Robert Clark, from the Henry Jackson Society, said.

"China has economic interests in Afghan, it is a huge mineral deposit base with zinc and cobalt needed for microchips and under US sanctions China is forced to produce their own microchips," Clark told The Sun Online.


"China is a silent partner. China would also be worried that terror groups could threaten their security."

SECURITY THREAT
Muscling in on Afghanistan would give Beijing a strategic foothold in the region with the country acting as a crucial trading hub connecting the Middle East, Central Asia and Europe, boosting China's influence across the world at an estimated cost of $4 trillion.

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi confirmed Beijing wants to "substantially" expand its BRI projects into the shattered country and "deepen the dialogue mechanism" between the nations.

A lack of infrastructure and an abundance of natural resources makes Afghanistan a lucrative target of Chinese investment - but it also involves risks.


Taliban forces have unleashed a reign of terror in recent weeks and seized control of a third of the country after the last of the American troops left.

Hundreds of Afghan soldiers have already fled across the border into neighbouring Tajikistan as the terror group sweeps through the country and leaves it on the verge of collapse.

An Afghan policeman stands guard inside the Bagram US air base after troops left
14
An Afghan policeman stands guard inside the Bagram US air base after troops leftCredit: AFP
Kite vendors wait for customers at a shop in Shor Bazaar in the old quarters of Kabul
14
Kite vendors wait for customers at a shop in Shor Bazaar in the old quarters of KabulCredit: AFP
A man selling chicken and ducks at a market along the road in Kabul
14
A man selling chicken and ducks at a market along the road in KabulCredit: Reuters
A man selling partridges cleans their cages at a market in Kabul
14
A man selling partridges cleans their cages at a market in KabulCredit: Reuters
China has already strategically built the Taxkorgan airport on Pamirs Plateau in the northwest Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region - which borders Afghanistan.

Ashok Swain, professor of peace and conflict research at Sweden's Uppsala University, told The Sun Online: "China is fast becoming a major power player in the Middle East.


"The US troops' withdrawal from Afghanistan allows China to influence Afghanistan policy in the years to come."

But Michael Kugelman, an expert in South Asian affairs, said China's ambitious expansion into Afghanistan will depend on its relationship with the Taliban.

"It will depend in great part on whether China reaches an understanding with the Taliban, which will see its influence continue to grow whether it holds power or not," he told the Daily Beast.

"If the Taliban is okay with China building out infrastructure and other projects in Afghanistan, Beijing will be in a much better place.


"China could well bring the Taliban on board with BRI.

"The insurgents have said they will support development projects if they serve Afghan national interests."

The Taliban offers a "more unified partner" to China, a source told the publication.

Xi Jinping's ambitious  Belt and Road Initiative will connect 60 countries's ambitious  Belt and Road Initiative will connect 60 countries
14
Xi Jinping's ambitious Belt and Road Initiative will connect 60 countriesCredit: AP
The US led an invasion of Afghanistan to oust the Taliban in 2001
14
The US led an invasion of Afghanistan to oust the Taliban in 2001Credit: AP
A child looks on as military vehicles drive past his Afghan village in 2009
14
A child looks on as military vehicles drive past his Afghan village in 2009Credit: AP
US troops have now left Afghanistan after 20 years
14
US troops have now left Afghanistan after 20 yearsCredit: AP
But Kugelman warned: "China will still face an extremely insecure environment, even if it gets Taliban buy-in for its projects."


Colonel Richard Kemp, 62, who was sent to Kabul in 2003 to take command of British Forces, said the outlook for Afghanistan was "bleak" - and said there would be "severe implications for the West" too.

He told The Sun Online: "Countries will see the US withdrawal as the West abandoning them when times were hard, and it will embolden countries like Russia and China as it’s seen as sign of weakness from the US.

"China is trying to increase its influence everywhere in the world – and the US withdrawal will open the gates for China to work with the Taliban."

He warned: "It will be portrayed as a defeat of the US and embolden jihadists, leading the more attacks on the West."




And Pakistan - one of Beijing’s strongest allies - could prove a trump card for China in the expansion into Afghanistan.

Sudha Ramachandran, an analyst on South Asian political and security issues, said China could "achieve more success than the US in Afghanistan given its close ties with and enormous leverage" over Pakistan - one of Beijing’s strongest allies.

"China wants to ensure that instability in Afghanistan does not impact BRI adversely, and it wants to push Afghanistan to join CPEC or BRI," Ramachandran told the Daily Beast.

An Indian government official said China could work with the Taliban "at the request of Pakistan".


"We can vouch that China will fund the rebuilding of Afghanistan through the Taliban via Pakistan," the source the Financial Times. "China is Pakistan’s wallet. China at the request of Pakistan will support the Taliban."

Afghan President Mohammad Ashraf Ghani
14
Afghan President Mohammad Ashraf GhaniCredit: Splash
Xi Jinping wants to extend the Belt and Road Initiative into Afghanistan
14
Xi Jinping wants to extend the Belt and Road Initiative into AfghanistanCredit: EPA
Chinese military mark the 100th anniversary of the Chinese Communist Party
14
Chinese military mark the 100th anniversary of the Chinese Communist PartyCredit: EPA
Taliban spokesman Suhail Shaheen said it sees China as a "welcome friend" and is hoping to talk to Beijing about investing in reconstruction work "as soon as possible", South China Morning Post reports.

But Fan Hongda, professor at the Middle East Studies Institute of the Shanghai International Studies University, warned Afghanistan could become a "hotbed for growing Islamic extremism".

"Even though China has for a long time been extremely cautious about sending military forces overseas, if it is supported by a United Nations resolution, China might join an international peacekeeping team to enter Afghanistan," he told the Financial Times.


"With continued turbulence, Afghanistan could easily become a hotbed for growing Islamic extremism, which would to some extent affect stability in Xinjiang."

But Professor Anthony Glees, from the University of Buckingham, believes China will stay out of Afghanistan and just "watch very carefully".

He told The Sun Online: "I think both Russia and China will do absolutely nothing, they will stay out of the place, although they will watch very carefully indeed for any interference by the Taliban forces in their own Muslim areas.

"The more the Taliban are left to their own devices, the more they can hone their forces and their fellow Islamist 'students' in the West."


20 years in Afghanistan - what happened?
US forces have begun a full withdrawal from Afghanistan under the orders of US President Joe Biden after spending 20 years fighting to stablise the war-torn nation.
US forces have begun a full withdrawal from Afghanistan under the orders of US President Joe Biden after spending 20 years fighting to stablise the war-torn nation.
Some 456 British soldiers and 2,420 Americans - along with hundreds of other coalition troops - died during the war which was sparked by the September 11 attacks.
And the civilian casualties are estimated to have been almost 50,000.
Codenamed Operation Enduring Freedom, the US led an invasion off Afghanistan to oust the Taliban after al-Qaeda flew planes into the World Trade Centre and other US buildings in 2001.
The mission was to oust the Taliban, who were said to be harbouring terrorists and providing them a safe haven - including Osama bin Laden.
What followed was nearly 20 years of grinding conflict as the US, its allies, and the Afghan security forces staged a grinding campaign to attempt to rebuild the country and beat back the Taliban.
The Taliban had ruled most of Afghanistan following the Afghan Civil War in the 90s - sparked by the withdrawal of the Soviet Union.
Western nations had actually supported the Taliban in the 80s as the ran an insurgency against the Soviet backed regime of Mohammad Najibullah.
However, after seizing power in 1996 - the Taliban brutally ruled Afghanistan and offered a safe haven to terrorist killers like Osama.
As the US war rolled on into the 2010s, Bin Laden was killed in May, 2011, in a US special forces raid in Abbotabad, Pakistan.
And since then there has been a slow withdrawal, with British troops officially ending combat operations in October 2014.
February 2020 saw a peace deal signed between the US and the Taliban in Doha, Qatar, which agreed to a withdrawal - whoever the Afghan government criticised it as being done behind "closed doors".
Taliban forces have since continued their operations and have been gaining ground - and the US continues to pull back its troops.
The war is seen as defeating the Taliban and improving the lives of the Afghan people who were once living under strict Islamic law and who now have free elections.
However, for some it is unfinished job which was mishandled - and that may 20 years on simply see a return to the dominance of the Taliban as they did pre-9/11.
And Kugelman said China's capacity to fill the vacuum left by the United States "shouldn't be overstated".

"There will certainly be a vacuum to fill, but we shouldn't overstate China's capacity to fill it," he told the Daily Beast.

"With Afghanistan's security situation sure to spiral out of control, there's only so much China will be able to do to deepen its footprint."

Experts have also warned that other countries in the region will seek to assert their dominance in Afghanistan.


RUSSIA 'STANDS READY'
Russia will also look to exploit its current presence in the country, Clark warned.

And Nilofar Sakhi, lecturer in International Affairs at the George Washington University, said China, Russia and Iran will use Afghanistan "as a battlefield for their strategic competition with the United States".

It comes as Russian military helicopters based in Tajikistan fired air-to-surface missiles during a training exercise on Tuesday as Moscow said its forces were ready to help secure the border with Afghanistan.

President Vladimir Putin told Tajikistan President Emomali Rakhmon that the nation will help with the fallout from NATO's exit from neighbouring Afghanistan if necessary.


The military exercise simulated an attack on illegal armed groups along with a convoy of cars, enemy firepoints and arms caches.

And tensions are mounting after a Taliban spokesperson said it will treat NATO and US forces as "invaders" if they fail to leave Afghanistan by September.

Suhail Shaheen promised the Taliban "would react" if troops are left in the country after the withdrawal, hours after the terror group seized control of nine districts.

The jihadis are now preparing to move on the capital Kabul after Afghan troops surrendered and retreated.


"The Taliban for now seem to be convinced they can take power forcefully," political analyst Ramish Salehi said.

"This is a fight that will determine... whether democracy will prevail against ideological forces."


The Taliban takeover in Afghanistan will definitely have a domino effect in the other regional flashpoints, it will be prudent of them to be on good terms with all the regional powers. The only country that is going to lose big time is India.

Afghanistan isn't in the Middle East
 
Actually India shares no border with afghanistan and is not relevant in afghanistan anyway by any mean.
All these years India was poking it's nose in afghanistan just for sponsoring terrorism in pakistan . India is not afghanistan regional player.






Before 2001, india had 0 connection to afghanistan. Between 2001-2021, the indians were being carried on the shoulders of the americans there.
 
Afghans can't do anything in ME.its just some Indians daydream.
 
Agreed. There was no sign of India prior to 2001. Only after US invasion it jumped in on back of the Americans by opening so called consulates everywherre which now as US leaves are being shut down.

Agreed. With a minor note: India was still funding the Northern Alliance forces up to 9/11 which were reduced to a tiny strip of land in the north of Afghanistan. India's hopes were something, somehow would cause the Taliban govt in Kabul to fall so that India would inflict pain on Pakistan--again; that opportunity arrived on 9/11. Don't forget that the Indians were in cahoots with the Soviet-backed Afghan govts to cause terrorism inside Pakistan: While the number of terrorism incidences in Pakistan in the 1980s were far less than later, there WERE still thousands of Pakistanis died due to terrorism. It's just that there was no internet, no social media and even the mainstream media were very limited in coverage. But I do remember reading in Pakistan's Jang newspaper such attacks.

In short, the Indian BS about 'historical' ties with Afghanistan (and Iran) are just that: BS! If there are ties then those are through the Muslim population of Pakistan. India is a spoiler in the region. But I can't blame them: Opportunity given, opportunity taken! Otherwise, while Pakistanis would be genuinely sad about the carnage inside Afghanistan or Iran, the Indians couldn't care less!
 
The Taliban takeover in Afghanistan will definitely have a domino effect in the other regional flashpoints, it will be prudent of them to be on good terms with all the regional powers. The only country that is going to lose big time is India.
Actually there is 2 earthquakes that will change the world order as we know it forever.

One fall of the USD ( economic earthquake).

The other in yemen ( political earthquake).

This 2 will change the world order as we know it today.

Dangerous times ahead
 
US, Russia, China, Turkiye and NATO are all supporting Pakistan and Taliban rule in Afghanistan.

Only India and Iran are opposing Pakistan & Taliban in Afghanistan.
 
Agreed. With a minor note: India was still funding the Northern Alliance forces up to 9/11 which were reduced to a tiny strip of land in the north of Afghanistan. India's hopes were something, somehow would cause the Taliban govt in Kabul to fall so that India would inflict pain on Pakistan--again; that opportunity arrived on 9/11. Don't forget that the Indians were in cahoots with the Soviet-backed Afghan govts to cause terrorism inside Pakistan: While the number of terrorism incidences in Pakistan in the 1980s were far less than later, there WERE still thousands of Pakistanis died due to terrorism. It's just that there was no internet, no social media and even the mainstream media were very limited in coverage. But I do remember reading in Pakistan's Jang newspaper such attacks.
Yes, I can confirm. I went to Pakistan for the first time in my life in 1989 and would share my time in Islamabad with my uncle who worked at ISB airport and our ancestral village. With all day to idle away I would explore Islamabad, Rawalpindi and neighbouring districts like Murree etc. I still remember driving on the newly built road to Murree and being told that Chief Minister Nawaz like to spend time in Murree and that is why the road had been resurfaced to high standard. Since then a expressway has been built. But I digress one day I came home and my auntie was besides herself. My uncle had called from the airport to check if I was at home as he had heard a bus had blown up on Faizabad chowk and I often drove past it from where we lived in 1-10.

I then got a friend and drove to Faizabad to see what all the drama was about. It was a horrific sight. All you could see was skeleton of the bus and burnt tyres. You could even see flesh stuck on the shop hoardings opposite he stand. Apparently PTV did not report it. Accordingly to my uncle because the government had tried to suppress the price it was paying fore the Afghan jihad. Looking back this was work of Indian RAW in conjunction with KGB.

However much as you is true but Indian influence had been beaten into a tiny pocket in Panjshir valley only for it to explode out and take over Kabul after 2001.
In short, the Indian BS about 'historical' ties with Afghanistan (and Iran) are just that
Indeed but in the delusional Indian mind Pakistan does not exist and apparently they border with Iran and Afghanistan.
 

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