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BBC News - China 'to overtake US on science' in two years 28 March 2011

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China's surge in progress could soon overwhelm the US, say experts

China is on course to overtake the US in scientific output possibly as soon as 2013 - far earlier than expected.

That is the conclusion of a major new study by the Royal Society, the UK's national science academy.

The country that invented the compass, gunpowder, paper and printing is set for a globally important comeback.

An analysis of published research - one of the key measures of scientific effort - reveals an "especially striking" rise by Chinese science.

The study, Knowledge, Networks and Nations, charts the challenge to the traditional dominance of the United States, Europe and Japan.

The figures are based on the papers published in recognised international journals listed by the Scopus service of the publishers Elsevier.

'No surprise'

In 1996, the first year of the analysis, the US published 292,513 papers - more 10 times China's 25,474.

By 2008, the US total had increased very slightly to 316,317 while China's had surged more than seven-fold to 184,080.

Previous estimates for the rate of expansion of Chinese science had suggested that China might overtake the US sometime after 2020.

But this study shows that China, after displacing the UK as the world's second leading producer of research, could go on to overtake America in as little as two years' time.

"Projections vary, but a simple linear interpretation of Elsevier's publishing data suggests that this could take place as early as 2013," it says.

Professor Sir Chris Llewellyn Smith, chair of the report, said he was "not surprised" by this increase because of China's massive boost to investment in R&D.

Chinese spending has grown by 20% per year since 1999, now reaching over $100bn, and as many as 1.5 million science and engineering students graduated from Chinese universities in 2006.

"I think this is positive, of great benefit, though some might see it as a threat and it does serve as a wake-up call for us not to become complacent."

The report stresses that American research output will not decline in absolute terms and raises the possibility of countries like Japan and France rising to meet the Chinese challenge.

"But the potential for China to match American output in terms of sheer numbers in the near to medium term is clear."

Quality questions

The authors describe "dramatic" changes in the global scientific landscape and warn that this has implications for a nation's competitiveness.

According to the report, "The scientific league tables are not just about prestige - they are a barometer of a country's ability to compete on the world stage".

Along with the growth of the Chinese economy, this is yet another indicator of China's extraordinarily rapid rise as a global force.

The UK's scientific papers are still the second most-cited in the world, after the US.

Dr Cong Cao, associate professor at Nottingham University's School of Contemporary Chinese Studies, agrees with the assessment that the quantity of China's science is yet not matched by its quality.

A sociologist originally from Shanghai, Dr Cao told the BBC: "There are many millions of graduates but they are mandated to publish so the numbers are high.

"It will take many years for some of the research to catch up to Western standards."

As to China's motivation, Dr Cao believes that there is a determination not to be dependent on foreign know-how - and to reclaim the country's historic role as a global leader in technology.
 
if two decades, i may buy the story. :)

i believe the author of the post either have not been to China or has not been to U.S, oops, or have not been to U.S/China.
China is progressing at a high speed, but two years, hmm, too optimistic.
the creative/innovative power is repressed unless the political reform goes well/deep.
 
if two decades, i may buy the story. :)

i believe the author of the post either have not been to China or has not been to U.S, oops, or have not been to U.S/China.
China is progressing at a high speed, but two years, hmm, too optimistic.
the creative/innovative power is repressed unless the political reform goes well/deep.

I'm not worried about China's innovative sector (China is expected to become the world's top technology innovator by 2012), but instead I'm worried about Chinese companies' abilities to turn that technological advancement into building products that will sell on the global market.
 
When China is ready to ripe on its scientific and technological maturity, they can use money to buy innovations from the west or elsewhere to further fuel their innovative sector. That is not to say that China lacks innovations. It will slowly unravel itself as tools and process becomes available.
The important bit is how to reach maturity optimally.
 
Dr. Cao is an idiot and a traitor. I'm not saying this for his words here, but because I have actually read 3 of his articles. His articles lack quantitative evidence and if were in chemistry or materials engineering would be laughed at. His "analyses" are easily refuted.

The whole notation of "citation rate" as a measure for quality is just as big of a joke as a Nobel Prize, which more measures popularity in the West, not really quality. Real quality is measured more accurately by patents.
 
Maybe China will develop anti-gravity propulsion for supercarrier-size ships. Having big flying fortresses by China will truly be a scientific leap forward beyond the West's comprehension. Hahaha.
 
what science china has of it's own..?

they are even coping the indian auto-riksha..
 
what science china has of it's own..?

they are even coping the indian auto-riksha..

Enough science to earn the top technological standing number in the world.

Enough science to be the world's largest high-technology exporter.

Enough science to make it the 3rd top military in the world.

Enough science to grant it the world's largest innovator by 2012.

Enough science to top every other nation's scientific papers.

Enough science to make it the next technology superpower.

Enough science to have the largest number of patents in the world.

Enough science to build the world's most advanced hybrid vehicles.

Enough science to be named the Green Technology leader of the world.

Enough science to build world's fastest supercomputer.

Enough science to challenge Boeing and Airbus.

Enough science to build the world's top transportation systems.

Enough science to be named nano-tech leader.

Enough science to build a negative-emission vehicle.

Enough science to be the first country to be future oil-independent.

The list goes on.



You obviously need to study some if you want to make even slightly reasonable posts.
 
Enough science to earn the top technological standing number in the world.

Enough science to be the world's largest high-technology exporter.

Enough science to make it the 3rd top military in the world.

Enough science to grant it the world's largest innovator by 2012.

Enough science to top every other nation's scientific papers.

Enough science to make it the next technology superpower.

Enough science to have the largest number of patents in the world.

Enough science to build the world's most advanced hybrid vehicles.

Enough science to be named the Green Technology leader of the world.

Enough science to build world's fastest supercomputer.

Enough science to challenge Boeing and Airbus.

Enough science to build the world's top transportation systems.

Enough science to be named nano-tech leader.

Enough science to build a negative-emission vehicle.

Enough science to be the first country to be future oil-independent.

The list goes on.



You obviously need to study some if you want to make even slightly reasonable posts.

try create you own rather coping and stealing other's legacies..
i can write 100 times bigger message on it..
 
try create you own rather coping and stealing other's legacies..
i can write 100 times bigger message on it..

I copied the facts from sources on US reports and business papers.

Where did you get yours, other than fantasies and ignorant stereotypes?

P.S. Forum members would be better off reading a fantasy book than your "message" -- after all, there isn't much difference.
 
I copied the facts from sources on US reports and business papers.

Where did you get yours, other than fantasies and ignorant stereotypes?

P.S. Forum members would be better off reading a fantasy book than your "message" -- after all, there isn't much difference.

you want me to start a series on it..:

here is the first episode........

http://www.knowabouthealth.com/china-exports-fake-drug-with-label-made-in-india/988/

China exports fake drug with label “made in India"
 
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