China to launch Pakistani communications satellite on August 14, 2011

[The Deterrent]

Not Really.

Pakistan Has Actually Purchased the Satellite with perhaps an active participation in the construction to get a know how of Satellite Manufacture.

I disagree...there was considerable Pakisatni contribution...SUPARCO has actively participated and did its part of the job...

 

[Bratva]

congratulations China... we are helping africa by donating 5 billion dollars and China is helping pakistan...two Asian Giants do lots of charity

Just like Russia and America Helped you in your early days of satellite making .............

 

[Alugaar]

I disagree...there was considerable Pakisatni contribution...SUPARCO has actively participated and did its part of the job...

We love to know those parts of the job

 

[CardSharp]

Not Really.

Pakistan Has Actually Purchased the Satellite with perhaps an active participation in the construction to get a know how of Satellite Manufacture.

Replace Pakistan with India and replace satellite with fifth generation fighter.

 

[Alugaar]

Replace Pakistan with India and replace satellite with fifth generation fighter.

Till then FGFA is on paper just wait for its first flight then we will talk about Indian contribution

 

[Arsalan]

Sir,

My comments are based on inside information from a SUPARCO engineer. According to him, we develop parts of the satellite but not the whole thing. That is where Chinese assistance comes in to play.

right, no one says that it is 100% Pakistani effort. every link says that the satellite is a joint venture. i have also been in contact with a person from SUPARCO. i will put it is as PAKSAT 1R being a SUPARCO production with Chinese assistance and guidance.
if you can check this with your SOURCE, he will let you know. A team of Pakistani scientists are involved in Pakistan Space programs joint efforts with China!

You are absolutey right...SUPARCO can never do this on its own...even our Missile program is at this stage,only because of Chinese help.

this is a misunderstanding dear brother!
the Ghauri, and Shaheen don't borrowed much from China.
look i agree that JFT was a joint effort, F-22p in a Chinese Frigate, J-10B is a Chinese aircraft with Pakistan inputs for improvement. i don't claim these to be Pakistani projects but i am well aware that the missile program in not dependent!
i have been following it for years and have good links in the system.

Yes,hopefully RSSS will be launched within 2011.

However,the article incorrectly mentions Shaheen-II as a potential SLV...a clear comparison :

PakSat-1R had a weight of above 5000 kg...now,the Shaheen-II has a payload capacity of 1000 kg (the whole re-entry vehicle)...so it fill be safe to assume that even the proposed Shaheen-III can't do the job...

That is why a new SLV is being designed,having a conventional look...it may incorporate Rocket Motors of proposed Shaheen-III...

of course, Shaheen II is a ballistic missile and cannot be a SLV.
the article means that a variant of Shaheen II is plausible. i suggest with some additional boosters it is quite likely to happen. as for the new design, again, it is basically a Shaheen Series idea being transformed into a SLV

well i hope have made my point clear.

thanks and best regards!

 

[DkBose]

Replace Pakistan with India and replace satellite with fifth generation fighter.

i think little bit more search may be helpful to you if you change ..

 

[Arsalan]

let them say what ever they want to, the Indians can never digest any success on our part.
we all know that and i guess i is stupid of us to keep answering these trolls.

i am sorry if i sound a bit harsh here but i request all my Pakistan brothers and those who intend to have positive discussion just ignore this BS from the other side of the border!


thanks and best regards!

 

[Alugaar]

let them say what ever they want to, the Indians can never digest any success on our part.
we all know that and i guess i is stupid of us to keep answering these trolls.

i am sorry if i sound a bit harsh here but i request all my Pakistan brothers and those who intend to have positive discussion just ignore this BS from the other side of the border!


thanks and best regards!

People start laughing when Indian satellite failed or burst in air

People talk about GSLV is russian,

Then why you ignoring this ???
If satellite is Pakistan then we want to know contribution so whats your problem ?

 

[The Deterrent]

this is a misunderstanding dear brother!
the Ghauri, and Shaheen don't borrowed much from China.
i am well aware that the missile program in not dependent!
i have been following it for years and have good links in the system.


of course, Shaheen II is a ballistic missile and cannot be a SLV.
the article means that a variant of Shaheen II is plausible. i suggest with some additional boosters it is quite likely to happen. as for the new design, again, it is basically a Shaheen Series idea being transformed into a SLV

well i hope have made my point clear.

thanks and best regards!

Actually,they did...but they did it in the past...now our expertise in manufacturing of BMs has increased to self-reliance...

But still,some of the very critical components such as an advanced counter-measures suite,MIRV tech (in development) require the Chinese assistance...I was saying that if it werent for the Chinese,we might have been developing Shaheen-II by now...


I got your second point...correct indeed.

 

[The Deterrent]

Succcess of Pakistan?? how?? Isn't it aid?? from when taking aid has become a success??

It is a success on our part...what SUPARCO did,performed well...

Except that we don't know what exactly SUPARCO did...

 

[Dazzler]

No. His link does not discredits my point.

We develop some parts of the satellite but not the whole thing. The truth is lot more different then what is promoted in the media.

Think about this for a moment; In Pakistan, government funding for education and research areas is extremely low. How can you expect miracles with such limited means?

i had no intention to discredit your point regarding this project being a joint venture since we did not have sufficient expertise in satellite manufacturing and launch despite working for almost 3 decades. Your point is valid

 

[IceCold]

Succcess of Pakistan?? how?? Isn't it aid?? from when taking aid has become a success??

Can you back your up your claim that its aid? I am looking forward to this.

 

[Ajaxpaul]

so when is the launch? any news of the launch prepare or countdown?

 

[SBD-3]

We love to know those parts of the job

here.....enjoy the reading

Pakistan will launch communications satellite on August 14, 2011

By Kamran Bukhari · Monday, May 11, 2009 52 Comments
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Pakistan will launch its first indigenously developed communications satellite on August 14, 2011, from a facility in China.

Dr Mohammad Riaz Suddle, the director of the Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission’s (Suparco) satellite research and development center in Lahore, said the satellite’s life span will be 15 years.

Responding to a question, Dr Suddle said, the satellite would be launched at a longitude of 38 degrees in geostationary orbit on the equatorial plane at an altitude of 36,000km above the Earth’s surface.

Paksat-1R will carry a communications payload to facilitate the introduction of a range of new services, including broadband internet, digital TV distribution/broadcasting, remote/rural telephony, emergency communications, tele-education and tele-medicine.

The contract for Pakis- tan Communication Satellite (Paksat-1R) was signed between Suparco and China Great Wall Industry Corporation (CGWIC), a Chinese firm, on October 15, 2008, in Beijing, during President Asif Zardari’s visit to China.

Work on the execution of the contract began soon after and is progressing as scheduled, according to Dr Suddle. He did not reveal the cost of the project but said the contract involves various other projects, including infrastructure and therefore it is difficult to invest an exact cost on the satellite itself.

Responding to a question, he said that at least two new satellites – Paksat-1R and Pakistan Remote Sensing Satellite (PRSS) – would be launched in the near future.

The satellites have been developed with technical and financial assistance from China.

The project has been approved by the federal government as part of the Public Sector Development Programme (PSDP), he said.

When quizzed from where the finances for the project were coming , Dr Suddle said that efforts are under way to secure a long-term concessional loan from the Chinese government to finance a major part of the project.

Speaking about the status of Pakistan’s space programme in comparison to that of other countries in the region, Dr Suddle asserted that Pakistan’s space/satellite development programme “needs to make rapid and sustained progress to meet national needs. India has a very advanced space programme”.

At present, Pakistan has a communications satellite, Paksat-1, in orbit, providing coverage across Europe, Africa, the Middle East, Central Asia and the South Asian subcontinent. It is being used by TV broadcasters, telecom companies, data and broadband internet service providers and government organizations.

Paksat-1R will replace Paksat-1, a leased satellite, to ensure continuity of service.

In the 1990s, Pakistan also operated a small satellite, Badr-A, in low earth orbit. however, the country’s modest space program has been oriented towards remote sensing applications.

Badr-A was Pakistan’s first indigenously developed satellite and was launched from the Xichang Launch Centre in China on July 16, 1990 aboard a Chinese Long March 2E rocket. Badr-A weighed 150 pounds and was inserted into an elliptical orbit of 127-615 miles by the rocket. The satellite successfully completed its design life.

Pakistan’s second satellite, Badr-B, was an earth observation satellite and was launched on Dec 10, 2001, on a Zenit-2 rocket from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. It was designed by Space Innovations Limited, a UK-based company.

Paksat-1 was Pakistan’s first geostationary satellite. It was originally known as Palapa C1, launched in 1996 which had been designed to serve Indonesia. After an electronics failure, it was renamed Anatolia-1 and then renamed again to become Paksat-1 in 2002. It was originally manufactured by Boeing by following the HS601 spacecraft design.

Suparco set about trying to replace Paksat-1 by signing a consultancy deal with Telesat in March 2007, according to the deal, the company will provide consultancy services to Pakistan on the purchase, manufacture and launch of Paksat-1R. Under the agreement, Telesat will help Suparco find a manufacturer and provide technical and commercial advice during the negotiations process. Telesat will also help to oversee the construction of the new satellite and monitor the launch and provide in-orbit testing services.

Reports quoting credible sources said that Pakistan is also working on development of Satellite Launch Vehicles (SLVs), basing their assumption on Pakistan’s success in developing intermediate range ballistic missiles.

Experts believe the missile technology will be used in any SLV. The Indian SLV-3/ASLV uses Agni ballistic missiles as first stage propulsion units and as boosters.

Suparco has already tested two high-altitude sounding rockets: Shahpar and Rakhnum. Shahpar is a seven metre solid fuel two-stage rocket that can carry a payload of 55 kilograms to an altitude of 450 kilometres. Rakhnum can lift a payload of 38kg to an altitude of 100km.

Although Dr Suddle says that Pakistan’s new communication satellite would be launched on August 14, 2011, judging from Pakistan’s progress in ballistic missile technology, analysts do not rule out the possibility that Suparco may just be waiting for the right moment to test Pakistan’s first satellite launch vehicle.

In this context, they cite Dr A.Q. Khan’s reported statement in March 2001, in which he had claimed that Pakistani scientists were busy in the process of building the country’s first SLV and that the project had been assigned to Suparco.

According to reports published in March 2005, former president and retired general Pervez Musharraf had authorised renewed research and development on an indigenous launch capability that would be able to put into orbit a domestically built satellite, Paksat-1R.
Pakistan will launch communications satellite on August 14, 2011