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Well then you should read some history.

Original India supported the cause of Tibet hence the Sino-Indian war of 1962 but since India and China restored ambassadorial relations in 1976, India has gone more than half way to extend the hand of reconciliation to resolve the problems. Later, India & China agreed to open the trade route between Tibet Autonomous Region and Sikkim as a path to recognize the borders and sovereignty claims by both the countries.

Government of India does not recognize or participate in any such Tibet related activities.

Can you give me a single agreement that Government of India got into with the Tibetans on either side of the border that compromised Chinese position on Tibet.

If that's the case then how come India is constantly "poking" at China using the Dalai Lama, making a big deal by sending him into disputed territories for instance?
 
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If that's the case then how come India is constantly "poking" at China using the Dalai Lama, making a big deal by sending him into disputed territories for instance?

Arunachal Pradesh is as disputed as Tibet.
Are u claiming Tibet is a disputed territory? Please confirm.

And probably you should watch the Chief Minister of Arunachal making his stand very clear to you people. Where as Tibetians wants the commies gone from their lands. Vacate fast please :D
 
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If that's the case then how come India is constantly "poking" at China using the Dalai Lama, making a big deal by sending him into disputed territories for instance?
This old dog traitor is gonna die soon, pretend to be a saint in the everyday left in his pathetic life. as pathetic as Indian government.
 
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If that's the case then how come India is constantly "poking" at China using the Dalai Lama, making a big deal by sending him into disputed territories for instance?

The entire border between India is up in the air as India & China never had any formal border agreement.

During Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao's visit to India in April 2005, the two sides signed an agreement on political settlement of the boundary issue, setting guidelines and principles. In the agreement, China and India affirmed their readiness to seek a fair, reasonable and mutually acceptable solution to the boundary issue through equal and friendly negotiations.

If you make claims on Indian territory like Arunachal, it is only natural that India would also make counter claims.
 
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-one-road-initiative/articleshow/58652294.cms

BEIJING/NEW DELHI: The US has made a sudden U-turn and decided to participate in the One Belt, One Road (OBOR)+ initiative being organised by China with much fanfare in Beijing this Sunday and Monday.

The US move puts tremendous pressure on India, which remains undecided+ on whether to send representatives to the event. India maintains that China has not created an environment of trust to carry out the belt and road projects.

A very good example is the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor through which China is looking to link Xinjiang with Gwadar port, which it has built in Balochistan.

Beijing has shown scant regard for the fact that it impinges on India's sovereignty, passing as it does through the Gilgit-Baltistan region which India claims as its own.

There may not be any immediate material loss to India if it goes unrepresented because OBOR is not a membership-based organisation+ .

In fact, India might be praised in some quarters for taking a bold principled stand. Sources in Delhi said India at best may be represented by junior embassy officials and ruled out sending any high-level dignitary.

A few Indian academics may also be present at the meet which would attract representation from over 50 countries and international organisations like the World Bank.

Though taking part in the initiative is a political decision, the US has made it appear like a trade-off that included China's commitment to buy American beef as part of the '100-day plan' agreement.

On its part, Washington agreed to allow Chinese banks to expand operations in the US.

"India is in a dilemma," Jagannath Panda, a research fellow at the Institute for Defense Studies and Analysis in New Delhi, told TOI. "India has to take cognizance of the US decision. It is an early signal that the Trump administration is reframing the US-China relationship," he said.

The US is sending an inter-agency delegation led by Matthew Pottinger, a top adviser to the Trump administration and National Security Council senior director for East Asia.

The decision emanated directly from the meeting between the presidents of the US and China in Florida last month. "We welcome all countries to attend. And we welcome the United States' attendance as the world's largest economy," said Chinese vice-finance minister Zhu Guangyao.

China's dominant position in the programme may be somewhat diluted with the US now joining developed countries like Britain and Germany in sending representatives.

China may come under pressure to become more transparent about its plans, and whether it would follow internationally-accepted standards on environment and labour in the projects, they said.

Japan and South Korea, which have military differences with China, are sending representatives. Most other countries engaged in territorial disputes with China over the South China Sea issue, including Vietnam and Indonesia, are also sending official delegations. Pakistan, Nepal and Sri Lanka are also taking part

Twenty-nine countries will be represented by their heads of state.
China says it would be a win-win for all countries, but there are serious doubts on whether Beijing would eagerly share the benefits in the face of pressure from Chinese companies.

The programme includes six economic corridors but no reliable map has been made available and it is evolving with time.
"What actually gets built will depend on what deals Chinese companies or the government make with other countries," abroad or on the deals that the Chinese government makes with other governments abroad, and no one knows exactly what those are going to be," said Tom Miller, author of a recent book, China's Asian Dream.



Indian narrow mindedness and diplomatic petititness
 
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Hosting Dalai Lama is only showing that India has dirty plot on Tibet. If China admit South Tibet is India's, then china's stance on Tibet integral to PRC will loose its legal foundation. We will keep reinforce BD, Pakistan, even Butan, and Myanmmar to pressure the India's north east in three direction.
 
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This old dog traitor is gonna die soon, pretend to be a saint in the everyday left in his pathetic life. as pathetic as Indian government.

Yes ultimately he will die as will all mortals. The fact that the all powerful communist party of china could not do anything other than wring it's hands and grind it's teeth whenever an old man steps foot outside is deplorable and laughable.
 
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Yes ultimately he will die as will all mortals. The fact that the all powerful communist party of china could not do anything other than wring it's hands and grind it's teeth whenever an old man steps foot outside is deplorable and laughable.

The commies are dying a slow death.
The "Super power" of China can be measured by how a tiny Island east of them has been toying them for centuries now. They can't take care of a tiny Island and they want finger people who exported their god to them. :D
 
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Yes ultimately he will die as will all mortals. The fact that the all powerful communist party of china could not do anything other than wring it's hands and grind it's teeth whenever an old man steps foot outside is deplorable and laughable.

Do you really think China could not have assassinated him if it was deemed necessary? He doesn't exactly have much security.

No, the Dalai Lama gave up his power when he accepted that Tibet was a part of China, and that he only wanted "more autonomy".

Now what did India achieve by backstabbing China like this in 1959? Apart from being defeated in 1962, losing a large amount of territory, and having a nuclear-armed Pakistan on their borders. India and the Dalai Lama have both publicly accepted that Tibet is a part of China, your political chips have been used up.

The commies are dying a slow death.
The "Super power" of China can be measured by how a tiny Island east of them has been toying them for centuries now. They can't take care of a tiny Island and they want finger people who exported their god to them. :D

Firstly, the Buddha was from Nepal, which was never a part of India (or even British India).

Secondly, the majority of Chinese people are either atheists or follow Chinese folk religion.
 
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The commies are dying a slow death.
The "Super power" of China can be measured by how a tiny Island east of them has been toying them for centuries now. They can't take care of a tiny Island and they want finger people who exported their god to them. :D

They are not commies they are business people.

I don't understand why we being lectured by chinese ?..Lol. OBOR is for the chinese benifit. We don't want them. If our govt decides to not go then that's the mandate of the people.
 
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Do you really think China could not have assassinated him if it was deemed necessary? He doesn't exactly have much security.

No, the Dalai Lama gave up his power when he accepted that Tibet was a part of China, and that he only wanted "more autonomy".



Firstly, the Buddha was from Nepal, which was never a part of India (or even British India).

Secondly, the majority of Chinese people are either atheists or follow Chinese folk religion.

Yet China still feels insecure.

Quoting from the below article:

Compared to the US and Europe's interference in China's domestic affairs over the Tibetan issue, India makes fewer accusations about the internal problems of Tibet.

Because India reserves the card of exiled Tibetans for future use, it needn't take risks to interfere in China's domestic affairs.


India still maintaining double standard toward exiled Tibetans


By Xiao Jie Source:Global Times Published: 2012-8-5 20:05:00
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Illustration: Sun Ying

After the 1959 rebellion, tens of thousands of Tibetans went into exile, following the Dalai Lama, and lived as refugees in India, Nepal, and other countries. Since then, the number of exiled Tibetans in each country has varied in accordance with the political atmosphere.

As the only great power that borders China's Tibet Autonomous Region, India has always been the largest host of exiled Tibetans. India's policy toward the 100,000 or so Tibetans on its territory, both the separatist political group led by the Dalai Lama and ordinary Tibetans focusing on their daily lives, has played a large role in Sino-Indian relations.

China and India had no problem related to the issue of sovereignty in history before UK's two invasions of Tibet in 1888 and 1904. By the end of 1947, India had achieved independence and inherited British government's privilege in Tibet.

In 1951, after the PLA drove out imperialist forces from Tibet, India didn't want to give up, which negatively influenced the Sino-Indian relationship.

The first issue that was raised between China and India was Tibet. Therefore the issue is not only a territorial problem, but also reflects more widely on relations. Indian policies toward the Dalai Lama group have changed from comprehensive support to selective support.

At first, India fully supported the establishment of the "Tibetan government in exile." Then Indian prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru visited the Dalai Lama as soon as he arrived in India.

India and China restored ambassadorial relations in 1976. But later after that, India carried out a two-track policy on the Tibetan issue.

On one hand, publicly, India didn't recognize the "Tibetan government in exile" and opposed Tibetan separatist forces. Former Indian prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee visited China in this period. According the talks between the two sides, India has recognized that the area known as the Tibetan Autonomous Region is part of the People's Republic of China. India will not allow anti-China political activities by Tibetan exiles.

But on the other hand, India still secretly supports or indulges separatist activities.

In 1988, then Indian prime minister Rajiv Gandhi visited China. The resumption of dialogue between the leaders of the two countries marked the normalization of bilateral ties. Since then, India has changed its policies toward the Dalai Lama.

A joint declaration was released after a meeting between Vajpayee and former Chinese president Jiang Zemin in 2003, in which India expressed its official position in black and white for the first time.

The Indian government exerts pressure on ordinary exiled Tibetans and uses them as a political tool. Exiled Tibetans who came to India or were born in India prior to 1979 can receive Indian residence permits. However, the residence permits must be renewed yearly.

India reserves the right to politicize the issue of exiled Tibetans, and takes ambiguous policies toward this group. For instance, the Indian Ministry of Home Affairs views exiled Tibetans as stateless persons in the immigration registration form.

Generally, Indian policies toward exiled Tibetans are in keeping with India's strategic considerations about the "Tibetan government in exile." There is contradiction between India's official "one-China" stance and actual indulgence of some Tibetans' separatist activities.

Compared to the US and Europe's interference in China's domestic affairs over the Tibetan issue, India makes fewer accusations about the internal problems of Tibet.

Because India reserves the card of exiled Tibetans for future use, it needn't take risks to interfere in China's domestic affairs.


India can already exert pressure on China merely through indulging the activities of exiled Tibetans. However, exiled Tibetans may in the longer term be a heavy burden to Indian society.

Exiled Tibetans require residence permits to find work, rent an apartment, open a bank account, and obtain identity documents.

But most of the time, these exiled Tibetans can just be hired by small business and little workshops. Compared to local people, they lack opportunities of education and employment.

Exiled Tibetans may even become a hidden danger to India's own stability in future. The separatist activities of exiled Tibetans will threaten regional security and the whole China-India relations.

The "diplomatic bonus" brought by exiled Tibetans is decreasing, whereas the benefits of cooperation between China and India is growing.

Under these circumstances, the Indian government should reconsider its policies toward exiled Tibetans. Only then will India take a responsible stance for exiled Tibetans in a real sense.

The author is an assistant researcher at the China Tibetology Research Center. opinion@globaltimes.com.cn

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/725252.shtml
 
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Do you really think China could not have assassinated him if it was deemed necessary? He doesn't exactly have much security.

No, the Dalai Lama gave up his power when he accepted that Tibet was a part of China, and that he only wanted "more autonomy".

Now what did India achieve by backstabbing China like this in 1959? Apart from being defeated in 1962, losing a large amount of territory, and having a nuclear-armed Pakistan on their borders. India and the Dalai Lama have both publicly accepted that Tibet is a part of China, your political chips have been used up.



Firstly, the Buddha was from Nepal, which was never a part of India (or even British India).

Secondly, the majority of Chinese people are either atheists or follow Chinese folk religion.

Then what seems to be the problem of china ? He has left the claim of Tibet, so what is the problem ?

Nobody sensationalize dalai lama more than china, that's a fact. Infact i don't think 50% of indian population even know him.
 
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Then what seems to be the problem of china ? He has left the claim of Tibet, so what is the problem ?

Nobody sensationalize dalai lama more than china, that's a fact. Infact i don't think 50% of indian population even know him.

They need another long march to eliminate the Tibetan people.

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Then what seems to be the problem of china ? He has left the claim of Tibet, so what is the problem ?

Nobody sensationalize dalai lama more than china, that's a fact. Infact i don't think 50% of indian population even know him.

Have you read any news on this forum lately, India has been constantly poking at China from every possible angle, from the Dalai Lama, to the South China Sea, to weapon sales to Vietnam.

And then they come and ask us not to veto their NSG and UNSC seat aspirations. :P
 
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