China to build Mexico’s first high-speed rail

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

The Americans are indeed have a car culture. There are other demographic barriers such as states' opposition and logistical issues such as where to build the rails.

Still tho. I can't help but wish the U.S. had a prolific HSR system as seen in Japan.

Most likely US will go with Japan if they decide to develop HSR.

 

[Aepsilons]

, i don't expect we will receive competition coming from the yankees when it comes to HSR. May China cash in more

Don't be so quick to claim victory. Heh.

There are the Germans, and us.

 

[tonyget]

They can always avail of Chinese loans can they not?

They don't have to , if Mexcian government can somehow tax on narcotic trades

 

[Aepsilons]

They don't have to , if Mexcian government can somehow tax on narcotic trades

Ha, stop being silly. The government has nothing on the cartels. Mexico City will probably request a low interest loan.

 

[cnleio]

That's the thing. America's failure to seize this initiative enables other nations with proven HSR technology to dominate this sector.

It's simple, F-22 not suitable for many nations, even F-35 also burning lots of USD ... many developing nations they'r sensitive to HSR building cost, if can provide building loans together. YES~!

China State Development Bank can provide loans and export China CRH system in foreign nations, exchange with local mineral resources or years tenancy terms.

 

[terranMarine]

Don't be so quick to claim victory. Heh.

There are the Germans, and us.

i haven't forgotten about you guys. How about Japan offering her high tech shinkansen to Iceland?

Also don't feel sour for the Americans not developing her own HSR system for export, Boeing already making big bucks

 

[Aepsilons]

i haven't forgotten about you guys. How about Japan offering her high tech shinkansen to Iceland?

 

[hans]

German and Japan is not likely to compete with China in high speed trains..
Besides the lower cost, China also has strong capacity in construction under various conditions.
China also runs the largest high speed train network in the world.

Don't be so quick to claim victory. Heh.

There are the Germans, and us.

 

[Aepsilons]

German and Japan is not likely to compete with China in high speed trains..
Besides the lower cost, China also has strong capacity in construction under various conditions.
China also runs the largest high speed train network in the world.

But what makes you think Mexico will employ Chinese laborers. Mexico, if you haven't noticed, isn't short of cheap labor.

As for competition, everything is debatable.

 

[hans]

The employee of China HSR system are not cheap labor. They earn pretty good inside China..
They have higher efficient and hard work compare with local worker
I heard that for this project, half of experienced workers will from China and the rest employed locally.

For competition, I agree that everything is debatable
Yet considering the lower cost and much big size of HSR network, China is very likely to win majority of the project..

But what makes you think Mexico will employ Chinese laborers. Mexico, if you haven't noticed, isn't short of cheap labor.

As for competition, everything is debatable.

 

[tonyget]

Mexican bureaucrats are as corrupt as can be, in Mexico you can't get anything going without bribe. And remote places are totally anarchic or controlled by cartels, last time an American firm owned factory got smashed by local drug gangs because they refuse to pay "protection fee".

The employee of China HSR system are not cheap labor. They earn pretty good inside China..
They have higher efficient and hard work compare with local worker
I heard that for this project, half of experienced workers will from China and the rest employed locally.

Mexcio isn't a safe place to send many personnel

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Mexican bureaucrats are as corrupt as can be, in Mexico you can't get anything going without bribe. And remote places are totally anarchic or controlled by cartels, last time an American firm owned factory got smashed by local drug gangs because they refuse to pay "protection fee".

Mexcio isn't a safe place to send many personnel

I dont think that will deter China from going there, we have being in Africa countries that are not better than Mexico...and we still able to do business with them.

 

[nomi007]

great

 

[Keel]

A gift from China to the Mexicans

 

[Keel]

Most likely US will go with Japan if they decide to develop HSR.

Not necessarily as our porfolio in our construction of HSR grows

We are building a very good resume
Safety records are above price and technology
We need to treasure, maintain and keep strong R & D with our assets

We have a legacy of helping America immensely on their railway constructions

California does not seem to be doing well.
If they want to have a HSR to meet their standards, would they choose China or the more pricey Germany, France, Japan or Canada?
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/355023/detroits-bankrupt-california-next-ian-tuttleav

We have good experience with them in this project:
" from a purely engineering perspective, William Ibbs from UC Berkeley says you can’t argue with the work from China. He says the quality controls and workmanship are top notch."

California turns to Chinese company, labor to build most of new Bay Bridge span | Public Radio International

Mexican bureaucrats are as corrupt as can be, in Mexico you can't get anything going without bribe. And remote places are totally anarchic or controlled by cartels, last time an American firm owned factory got smashed by local drug gangs because they refuse to pay "protection fee".

Mexcio isn't a safe place to send many personnel

The contract price is fixed, transparent and approval from top down
So I am not seeing corruption to play a major part here

Mexico isnt a safe place to work but I think most of the problems with Mexico for foreigners are with drug cartels with whom we wont and will never mess around. Also we cause no threats to their business at all.